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Offline MountainDevil54

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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2020, 09:12:05 AM »
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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2020, 10:03:07 AM »
I have shot muzzys that Sat for a year loaded with loose pyrodex and a cap and they always went off. Only issues I ever had was my original muzzy that would only hit the cap hard enough for it to pop every other shot.  :bash: My current knight bighorn has been 100% so far.

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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2020, 09:42:35 AM »
I went to the range yesterday to see if my rifle would fire. I had fired it 10 days ago and reloaded with a speed loader that was assembled a year ago.  It fired OK, even hit the gong at the 200 yard line. T7 3F loose powder, musket cap.

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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2020, 12:32:31 PM »
I may switch to 209s now that they are legal, but right now I use 110gr loose FFF and a musket cap.  I stopped using pellets because they won't give you as much velocity and I had reliability issues.

I have zero issues now.

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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #49 on: October 14, 2020, 03:18:12 PM »
When My son tried to fire his Bighorn after season, it did not fire.  Multiple musket caps tried.

He was using Pyrodex pellets

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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2020, 03:28:02 PM »
When My son tried to fire his Bighorn after season, it did not fire.  Multiple musket caps tried.

He was using Pyrodex pellets

I had problems with pellets.  I strongly recommend loose powder

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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #51 on: October 23, 2020, 11:26:41 PM »
I’m sorry to hear about this considering I sold you that rifle.  I have another one identical to it.  I’ve been using Federal 209A primers and BH209 powder.  No misfires of any kind and it shoots real clean.

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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2020, 03:01:25 PM »
I’m sorry to hear about this considering I sold you that rifle.  I have another one identical to it.  I’ve been using Federal 209A primers and BH209 powder.  No misfires of any kind and it shoots real clean.
I’m assuming the primer i used had gotten wet. The rifles been great! Absolutely nothing wrong with this gun. I still appreciate the sale and I’ll use this gun for years to come with confidence!


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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2020, 03:13:28 PM »
I always toss out the cap at the end of each hunt and I always empty the powder and bullet at the end of each day hunting. I know people leave their guns loaded with the same load, but I’m the type of guy that doesn’t want to ever have the story you are telling today.
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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2020, 03:47:37 PM »
I plan on doing many things different next year. Thanks to all these replies. I know i have a lot to learn


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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #55 on: October 26, 2020, 08:20:33 AM »
I’m sorry to hear about this considering I sold you that rifle.  I have another one identical to it.  I’ve been using Federal 209A primers and BH209 powder.  No misfires of any kind and it shoots real clean.

This would be the proper combination of the 209 system in my opinion. It was designed for it. Try this and see what your results are. A lot of folks never even shoot their muzzleloader in the off season so next spring go find a spot to shoot and see what combo works best and is most consistent. I've even found I can reload quicker if I just leave bullets loose in my pocket, only put powder in speed loads and wear a lanyard capper. You would think I was firing a bolt action some days! Lol

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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2020, 04:13:30 PM »
I've had enough bad experiences with muzzy misfires that I packed my bow yesterday. I know that goes off.

Agreed!  LMAO

Back to the topic.  My buddies and I have tried everything out there over the years.  We all shoot loose T 7 and top grade musket caps and have no problems for a few years now. :twocents:
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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #57 on: November 25, 2020, 09:32:57 PM »
I have a encore same as your Fx shoots Bh209 great same as 777. All my guns shoot loose and always will

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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #58 on: November 28, 2020, 10:18:24 AM »
I plan on doing many things different next year. Thanks to all these replies. I know i have a lot to learn


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A lot of people have given you good advice on how to avoid a similar issue next year.
Here's a comprehensive resource full of best practices I developed over years of hunting with a muzzleloader in Washington. I had to learn a few lessons the hard way, but sometimes those lessons are the ones best remembered.
If you download that E-Book at the link below and follow the advice it contains, I can virtually guarantee that you'll have much better results on your next hunt.
https://muzzleloaders101.com/optin1605117193217

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Re: Misfire on bull.
« Reply #59 on: November 28, 2020, 11:55:52 AM »
3 things to making sure your muzzleloader fires.

Keep the bore dry
Keep the ignition source dry
Use real black powder

If you are using musket caps or #11 caps and then using pellets which is much harder to ignite and absorb moisture quickly, you are asking for trouble. I tested pellets years ago with 209 primers and all brands of pellets even with a hot W209 primer, went up like a roman candle, rather than going bang.

If you want 100% reliable ignition, stop being cheap, hard headed, or what ever you are, and order some real black powder. Use your pellet crap for target fun.

 


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