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Any info about this rifle
« on: November 22, 2020, 04:32:49 PM »
So a friend of mine recently inherited this rifle, as he is really not a firearms guy he sent me some pics and wanted to know if i could give him any info on it, and im a little stumped.
Obviously 45-70
Octagon barrel, breech load single shot like a sharps but i only see one trigger
The name stamp and Seattle Wash 1968 i think may of been the original owner?
I have not put my hands on it so not sure if any other markings, he says there are not but who knows
This will more than likely wind up in my safe i am just not sure of a fair price at this point

I did say bring it over and lets shoot it, he says that would hurt, poor baby i told him 12ga with 3.5 goose loads would be alot worse  :chuckle:
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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2020, 05:12:41 PM »
British .303 Enfield converted to 45-70?

Dunno.  Cool looking rifle. 

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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2020, 05:21:25 PM »
Maybe something from Warshal's Sporting Goods in Seattle back then. Seem's like they had a big firearm department.

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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2020, 05:21:33 PM »
Definitely custom made. I'd say the name stamped on is the gunsmith who built it.

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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2020, 05:27:06 PM »
Wondering about the rear screw in the second pic if it's in the right position or not.

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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2020, 05:55:39 PM »
Looks to be a Martini action with re- barrel and restock.

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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2020, 07:14:38 PM »
That's a .303 British Enfield Martini that has been restocked and re-barreled...  Personally I wouldn't shoot it with off the shelf 45-70 until you got it checked out.... probably ok, but I'm chicken *censored*.. :)

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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2020, 09:21:12 AM »
That's a .303 British Enfield Martini that has been restocked and re-barreled...  Personally I wouldn't shoot it with off the shelf 45-70 until you got it checked out.... probably ok, but I'm chicken *censored*.. :)
Thanks, that is what i finally dug up also
I think Bobcat maybe right abought the name stamp being the gunsmith
Going to have it checked out and hopefully lob some lead with it
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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2020, 12:20:23 PM »
Martini-Henry,...... not Enfield,.... was made at Enfield but probably not a 303 Enfield. Original caliber was 577/450.... used in the Boer wars in Africa among other places.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini%E2%80%93Henry

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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2020, 12:47:25 PM »
Wondering about the rear screw in the second pic if it's in the right position or not.

That screw is likely a retainer. The cut out on the head tells me to rotate so you can tap the pin out that likely has a groove in it.  :twocents:
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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2020, 05:43:58 PM »
Martini-Henry,...... not Enfield,.... was made at Enfield but probably not a 303 Enfield. Original caliber was 577/450.... used in the Boer wars in Africa among other places.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini%E2%80%93Henry

Nope... the badging is completely different.... same basic action, otherwise not even close.

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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2020, 05:52:40 PM »
Definitely custom made. I'd say the name stamped on is the gunsmith who built it.
Let's hope not . If I had a Custom Rifle made and the Gunsmith stamped his info that crooked on it . I wouldn't want the rifle .
Nice rifle BTW
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Re: Any info about this rifle
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2020, 04:05:08 PM »
Yep, Martini action.   I have two in the vault:  One stripped of barrel and stock intended to be a black powder cartridge rifle, maybe a 45-110.   (Yep, black powder, smokeless cartridges should not be used in the Martini)  This will be a cast bullet gun.

The other one is a 14 gauge shotgun, think they were exported to India way back in the dark century.

I do not recommend using modern smokeless loads in the Martini.

 


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