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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2021, 04:00:33 PM »
They allow scopes for bad eyes. My buddy has a permit for the scope and a permit for crossbow archery.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2021, 04:31:25 PM »
I dont think age related vision decline qualifies as a disability.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2021, 04:52:50 PM »
Visual impairment qualifications

Blindness is a central visual acuity that does not exceed 20/200 in the better eye with corrective lenses, or the widest diameter of the visual field does not exceed twenty degrees, or

Low Vision is a severe loss of visual acuity ranging from 20/70 to 20/200 while retaining some visual function, or

Visual impairments may include, but are not limited to: Albinism, Aniridia, Aphakia, Cataracts, Glaucoma, Macular Degeneration, or other similar diagnosed permanent disease or disorder.

Not included: Hyperopia, Myopia, Astigmatism, and Presbyopia type conditions.
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2021, 05:04:05 PM »
First thing Id recommend is an eye appointment to see if any of you older guys have cataracts.  I had them and they were to the point that insurance covered the lions share of out with the cataracts and in with the new lenses.  You cant imagine the difference unless youve had it done. 

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2021, 05:12:28 PM »
Visual impairment qualifications

Blindness is a central visual acuity that does not exceed 20/200 in the better eye with corrective lenses, or the widest diameter of the visual field does not exceed twenty degrees, or

Low Vision is a severe loss of visual acuity ranging from 20/70 to 20/200 while retaining some visual function, or

Visual impairments may include, but are not limited to: Albinism, Aniridia, Aphakia, Cataracts, Glaucoma, Macular Degeneration, or other similar diagnosed permanent disease or disorder.

Not included: Hyperopia, Myopia, Astigmatism, and Presbyopia type conditions.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2021, 05:20:20 PM »
Not that I'm opposed, but I just can't visualize one of these on my Bighorn.  And I'd need some sort of blast shield to keep the primer gases off of it.  Co-witness?

When I first saw this thread I thought "at least 5 pages of haters flaming technology"  ...   so far it's surprisingly civil.

But they did not mention 1X scopes with electronics so with the current regs that would rule out red dots and the like.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2021, 05:22:28 PM »
The fact that people are getting exempted or disabled status just so they can use a scope, when there is another option ,it's called modern firearm.
It's a slippery slope,soon your primitive weapon season will be joined with modern firearm.Seasons shorten,along with a number of things that can happen.

I feel for anybody that are getting old ,I can't walk as far as when I was young.Im going def in one ear with the other not far behind.my vision in the scope is not as clear as it was many years ago .But the difference is I'm not asking for a disable handout.As far I'm concerned you still have options to hunt.
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2021, 05:55:04 PM »
I am totally against scopes on muzzle loaders. Imo the limiting factor right now is the sights, as it should be.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2021, 06:00:19 PM »
One power scope = 300 yards.   Switching to Muzzy !!!

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2021, 06:03:30 PM »
 I'm not sure where I am at with this one... but  my eyes aren't what they were and the accuracy is suffering with the old peep sights....  Can't say I am against it but I also get the slippery slope aspect.... when would the info be finalized?

as far as WDFW giving disability concessions.... they don't just hand them out like candy, I know some older guys who have tried and they aren't easy to get.  I'm all for it for the guys who need it if it helps keep them in the field.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2021, 06:07:02 PM »
Maybe it should only apply based on age, such as 65 and over. 

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2021, 06:19:05 PM »
But who makes a 1x scope that does not have any electronics in it? I do not see much.

I don't see anything available on the market.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2021, 06:31:09 PM »
Not that I'm opposed, but I just can't visualize one of these on my Bighorn.  And I'd need some sort of blast shield to keep the primer gases off of it.  Co-witness?

When I first saw this thread I thought "at least 5 pages of haters flaming technology"  ...   so far it's surprisingly civil.

But they did not mention 1X scopes with electronics so with the current regs that would rule out red dots and the like.

Illuminated recitals are legal in WA, why would this be any different?

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2021, 06:35:13 PM »
Not that I'm opposed, but I just can't visualize one of these on my Bighorn.  And I'd need some sort of blast shield to keep the primer gases off of it.  Co-witness?

When I first saw this thread I thought "at least 5 pages of haters flaming technology"  ...   so far it's surprisingly civil.

But they did not mention 1X scopes with electronics so with the current regs that would rule out red dots and the like.

Illuminated recitals are legal in WA, why would this be any different?

Not for big game.
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2021, 06:46:52 PM »
Not that I'm opposed, but I just can't visualize one of these on my Bighorn.  And I'd need some sort of blast shield to keep the primer gases off of it.  Co-witness?

When I first saw this thread I thought "at least 5 pages of haters flaming technology"  ...   so far it's surprisingly civil.

But they did not mention 1X scopes with electronics so with the current regs that would rule out red dots and the like.

Illuminated recitals are legal in WA, why would this be any different?

Not for big game.

Where do the regs say that?

 


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