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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #105 on: January 03, 2021, 10:24:26 AM »
That would be a fun fly on the wall moment. "But officer, can't you see I JB welded the power ring in the 1x position?"

It’s not a 3x scope if it’s not capable of 3x. The writing etched onto the outside of the tube doesn’t make it something it’s not. Besides you can scrape that off.

Sure why not? Shotguns are capable of holding 5 shells but we put a stick in the tube to reduce it to 3. I don’t see any practical difference.

Exactly my redneck thoughts!! Heck I would tack weld it if it wouldn’t melt the tube lol if she don’t turn then it should be good to go.

Practically, it would be a 1 power, but it's still a 3 power scope.  The shotgun rule is written to specifically allow plugs where this one is specifically written to only allow 1 power scopes.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #106 on: January 03, 2021, 11:03:11 AM »
That would be a fun fly on the wall moment. "But officer, can't you see I JB welded the power ring in the 1x position?"

Sure why not? Shotguns are capable of holding 5 shells but we put a stick in the tube to reduce it to 3. I don’t see any practical difference.

Exactly my redneck thoughts!! Heck I would tack weld it if it wouldn’t melt the tube lol if she don’t turn then it should be good to go.

Practically, it would be a 1 power, but it's still a 3 power scope.  The shotgun rule is written to specifically allow plugs where this one is specifically written to only allow 1 power scopes.
I don't see the difference.

"(2) It is unlawful to hunt game birds with a shotgun capable of holding more than three shells."

Exactly the guns we hunt with are capable of holding more shells. The plug added to the gun is what makes it legal and the limiting factor. The same thing for the scope the scope is capable of more zoom but when locked it place. It now has a limiting factor and is no longer able to zoom. So it’s a fixed 1x. Same thing really. Both would be illegal without the limiting factor.
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #107 on: January 03, 2021, 01:08:45 PM »
"Hey Dad , what was it like to hunt branched bulls every year in Washington?"
 
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Just like it was prior to 1994... ;)

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #108 on: January 03, 2021, 01:36:05 PM »
Smh

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #109 on: January 03, 2021, 01:42:58 PM »
Do you really want people taking out bulls with muzzleloader at 500yds?

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #110 on: January 03, 2021, 07:36:49 PM »
When will they vote on this proposal?
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #111 on: January 03, 2021, 07:49:35 PM »
According to the proposed 2021-2023 seasons and regs changes listed on the WDFW website they are meeting in March IOT get everything announced in April for release of the new hunting regs pamphlet.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #112 on: January 03, 2021, 07:51:05 PM »
According to the proposed 2021-2023 seasons and regs changes listed on the WDFW website they are meeting in March IOT get everything announced in April for release of the new hunting regs pamphlet.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #113 on: January 03, 2021, 09:40:31 PM »
According to the proposed 2021-2023 seasons and regs changes listed on the WDFW website they are meeting in March IOT get everything announced in April for release of the new hunting regs pamphlet.
Are those the regs that allow one bull tag for the blues and one for the cascades?
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #114 on: January 03, 2021, 09:44:17 PM »
Where the heck is Sabotloader on this??!! I say we just let him decide.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #115 on: January 03, 2021, 10:40:29 PM »
Where the heck is Sabotloader on this??!! I say we just let him decide.

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I'm wondering also. My guess is that he can shoot as well or better already with the sights he has.
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #116 on: January 03, 2021, 11:05:57 PM »
More elk will get killed more people will switch to a muzzleloader.  Something people complained about 10 years ago when they opened up most of western Washington to early muzzy season.  And all we have seen is the number of hunters going down every year.  The sport will die without more people starting to hunt.  If a 1x scope attracts a few more hunters that's a good thing.
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #117 on: January 04, 2021, 05:58:49 AM »
Where the heck is Sabotloader on this??!! I say we just let him decide.

**Unless I disagree, in which case I shall revolt against him!!
I'm wondering also. My guess is that he can shoot as well or better already with the sights he has.
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I really have held off adding to this thread as I live and hunt in Idaho so my thoughts on Washington regulations really carry no weight.

I would suggest to you our regulations here in Idaho are really archaic as compared to Washington but if we were modernize our rules, I really would not vote for scopes, unless there were a medical reason.  And even then there are to many people that might take advantage of that ruling. 

Straight 1X scopes are not a popular item on the market - lots of 1x5 and on up but straight 1x only are not abundant.

I am 76 wear glasses or contacts and really see no real advantage to 1x scope for myself at this time.

So basically those are my thoughts which again are not valid for Washington residents.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #118 on: January 04, 2021, 07:31:38 AM »
More elk will get killed more people will switch to a muzzleloader.  Something people complained about 10 years ago when they opened up most of western Washington to early muzzy season.  And all we have seen is the number of hunters going down every year.  The sport will die without more people starting to hunt.  If a 1x scope attracts a few more hunters that's a good thing.
You're right, more elk will get killed. And in the areas I've hunted Rosies the Muzzy guys already have far away the highest success rate, and that is with an only 6 day season... If they add scopes are they gonna make it a 3 day season? Or maybe not have the season in the post rut?
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #119 on: January 04, 2021, 08:14:19 AM »
No scopes period that’s my  :twocents: sorry for the guys with aging or just bad eye sight but there needs to be a stopping point or limitation to muzzleloaders and I think having a sealed breach and 209’s should be the end

 


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