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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #165 on: January 05, 2021, 12:20:18 PM »
Why not just use these?

Another good option we allready have. But still nothing when compared to a scope. One common complaint with the fine front globe site is use in low light situations.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #166 on: January 05, 2021, 01:28:22 PM »
I think it’s great WDFW wants to allow 1x scopes. Nearly every other state in the country allows magnification scopes so it’s about time we move that direction.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #167 on: January 05, 2021, 01:42:06 PM »
I think it’s great WDFW wants to allow 1x scopes. Nearly every other state in the country allows magnification scopes so it’s about time we move that direction.

Except California, Colorado, Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, Parts of New Mexico... But Utah and Arizona allow it where you get a bull tag once every 20 years so lets do that!

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #168 on: January 05, 2021, 02:10:09 PM »
I say we allow crossbows for everyone during bow season too!  Why not?

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #169 on: January 05, 2021, 02:46:07 PM »
I say we allow pistols in bow season. Rifles in muzzleloader season and leg snares in rifle. After all some guys eye are getting old. With a snare you wouldn’t even have to see the animal.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #170 on: January 05, 2021, 02:50:18 PM »
I say we allow pistols in bow season. Rifles in muzzleloader season and leg snares in rifle. After all some guys eye are getting old. With a snare you wouldn’t even have to see the animal.
How does it go? "If you don't like pistols in now season don't use them."
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #171 on: January 05, 2021, 03:31:50 PM »

Exactly. So 44/50 states allow scopes. Like I said, nearly every other state allows them. Thanks for proving my point.

I think it’s great WDFW wants to allow 1x scopes. Nearly every other state in the country allows magnification scopes so it’s about time we move that direction.

Except California, Colorado, Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, Parts of New Mexico... But Utah and Arizona allow it where you get a bull tag once every 20 years so lets do that!

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #172 on: January 05, 2021, 03:42:33 PM »

Exactly. So 44/50 states allow scopes. Like I said, nearly every other state allows them. Thanks for proving my point.

I think it’s great WDFW wants to allow 1x scopes. Nearly every other state in the country allows magnification scopes so it’s about time we move that direction.

Except California, Colorado, Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, Parts of New Mexico... But Utah and Arizona allow it where you get a bull tag once every 20 years so lets do that!
Perfect summery for this thread  :tup:

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #173 on: January 05, 2021, 04:04:19 PM »

Exactly. So 44/50 states allow scopes. Like I said, nearly every other state allows them. Thanks for proving my point.

I think it’s great WDFW wants to allow 1x scopes. Nearly every other state in the country allows magnification scopes so it’s about time we move that direction.

Except California, Colorado, Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, Parts of New Mexico... But Utah and Arizona allow it where you get a bull tag once every 20 years so lets do that!

That's out of the 10-11 states that I consider as being somewhat relevant in the western hunting world, I have no idea how many of the eastern private land dominated, pay-to-play states allow them, nor do I care. I don't find it a coincidence that whenever I think "man I wish hunting in WA was a bit more like (insert state here), that most of those states happen to not allow scopes. I'd rather WA be more like Idaho than Iowa

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #174 on: January 05, 2021, 04:04:35 PM »

Exactly. So 44/50 states allow scopes. Like I said, nearly every other state allows them. Thanks for proving my point.

I think it’s great WDFW wants to allow 1x scopes. Nearly every other state in the country allows magnification scopes so it’s about time we move that direction.

Except California, Colorado, Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, Parts of New Mexico... But Utah and Arizona allow it where you get a bull tag once every 20 years so lets do that!

Nah. As usual comparing states rules is under/misinformed or disingenuous. Cherry picking method of take or seasons without taking into consideration game numbers, hunter numbers, season length, etc. is asinine.

I don't WDFW cares one way or the other but they are certainly influenced by the squeaky wheel who usually lobbies to make things easier for them.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #175 on: January 05, 2021, 04:48:51 PM »
This thread has gone bonkers.  What a huge button got pushed for the muzzleloader crowd.

If I have to vote, I am in favor of a 1X scope that will allow me to shoot 300 yards.  For the record, even with my 4 - 12x scope on my .30-06, I still can't see that well.  Must be some Swaro glass in that 1X.  Not sure I can afford that.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #176 on: January 05, 2021, 05:12:41 PM »

Exactly. So 44/50 states allow scopes. Like I said, nearly every other state allows them. Thanks for proving my point.

I think it’s great WDFW wants to allow 1x scopes. Nearly every other state in the country allows magnification scopes so it’s about time we move that direction.

Except California, Colorado, Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, Parts of New Mexico... But Utah and Arizona allow it where you get a bull tag once every 20 years so lets do that!

Nah. As usual comparing states rules is under/misinformed or disingenuous. Cherry picking method of take or seasons without taking into consideration game numbers, hunter numbers, season length, etc. is asinine.

I don't WDFW cares one way or the other but they are certainly influenced by the squeaky wheel who usually lobbies to make things easier for them.
I agree...I think wdfw is doing this to show some squeaky wheels where hunters stand on the matter.  If they get 80% public opposition, they can go back to these groups and say, sorry - hunters don't want this change.  I don't think its any desire of wdfw to allow scopes or not allow scopes.
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #177 on: January 05, 2021, 05:21:22 PM »
This thread has gone bonkers.  What a huge button got pushed for the muzzleloader crowd.

If I have to vote, I am in favor of a 1X scope that will allow me to shoot 300 yards.  For the record, even with my 4 - 12x scope on my .30-06, I still can't see that well.  Must be some Swaro glass in that 1X.  Not sure I can afford that.

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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #178 on: January 05, 2021, 05:36:12 PM »
Not that it matters but I have had a few conversations with someone who is apart of these rule changes for wdfw. It sounds like a very large majority of the people are in favor of this. He made it sound like there is a solid possibility of it passing.
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Re: Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?
« Reply #179 on: January 05, 2021, 05:40:11 PM »
Oh might I also add that all you young guys ARE going to get old Too, and $h!ts gonna get fuzzy for you When you try and line up an animal someday.  ;)
There will be no animals/hunting in WA when things get fuzzy for me...
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