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Re: Who's doing keto?
« Reply #240 on: April 21, 2021, 04:41:02 PM »
The weight plateau you're experiencing is common for a lot of people. I've hit mine before. Diet variation/feast famine cycling could really help. I'll skip the medical jargon, but there are some studies that show diet variation is more important than the diet itself, especially the correlation between abrupt diet shifts (e.g. ADF) and continued weight loss. Bobcat gave an example of diet variation you could try. I've found a 5-1-1 or similar weekly eating pattern works well for me. Five days regular keto/intermitted fasting, one feast day (eat whatever) and one famine day (complete fast) in the same week. You'll have to figure out what works for you. Good luck on your journey.

I had read that a cheat day purposely eating carbs in a way tricks the body and when you restart keto weight loss would come faster. I don't know, there is a ton of stuff out there.

On another note, my wife bought some keto ice cream a couple weeks ago and just tried a small bit last night... wasn't to bad.
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Re: Who's doing keto?
« Reply #241 on: April 21, 2021, 04:52:21 PM »
The weight plateau you're experiencing is common for a lot of people. I've hit mine before. Diet variation/feast famine cycling could really help. I'll skip the medical jargon, but there are some studies that show diet variation is more important than the diet itself, especially the correlation between abrupt diet shifts (e.g. ADF) and continued weight loss. Bobcat gave an example of diet variation you could try. I've found a 5-1-1 or similar weekly eating pattern works well for me. Five days regular keto/intermitted fasting, one feast day (eat whatever) and one famine day (complete fast) in the same week. You'll have to figure out what works for you. Good luck on your journey.

I had read that a cheat day purposely eating carbs in a way tricks the body and when you restart keto weight loss would come faster. I don't know, there is a ton of stuff out there.

On another note, my wife bought some keto ice cream a couple weeks ago and just tried a small bit last night... wasn't to bad.

Go easy on that stuff it will clean you out pronto!  :chuckle:

I had a cheat day Sunday after 4 weeks of strict Keto and hated it, didnít eat terrible but had some pizza , popcorn and 1/2 a can of soda. This week cravings have been back and felt hungry during the day which I donít have while on strict keto. I jumped right back in Monday and now today Iím finally feeling content on my meal plan like I was before cheating. I wonít be cheating again.

Down 13lbs in 4 weeks as of Sunday. Better consistent energy during the day, sleeping good. Iím doing strict Keto and itís easy.
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Re: Who's doing keto?
« Reply #242 on: April 21, 2021, 04:53:44 PM »
The thing to think about is that if you really want to be in ketosis (as opposed to just losing weight or being low carb), if you take a cheat day every week it will kick you out of ketosis and take maybe 1-2 days to get back into ketosis.  So, you would be out for 2-3 days a week which is a significant portion of the week.

Personally, I also find it harder to get back in as well as some of the cravings showing up again.  That said, my version of "cheating" is pretty obscene, go big or go home real bad idea stuff. 

Several years ago I did Paleo/low carb and almost always had a single cheat meal and that didn't seem to impact anything at all.

The best keto ice cream I have had are the Enlightened ones with the carb number on the front of the carton.  Way better texture and flavor than the others.

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Re: Who's doing keto?
« Reply #243 on: April 22, 2021, 10:12:16 PM »
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Go easy on that stuff it will clean you out pronto!
Ain't that the truth. :chuckle: Coming out of keto or a fast with carbs can be difficult. Been there.

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I had read that a cheat day purposely eating carbs in a way tricks the body and when you restart keto weight loss would come faster.
One thing worth clarifying from my previous post... a feast day does not automatically equal a carb day. It's not that carbs are off limits if you can handle it, but the simplified concept is that by feasting you're communicating to your body that you're not starving (caloric excess). In one of the studies I had in mind previously, they compared high-fat/low-carb and low-fat/high-carb diets eaten consistently (seven day a week) to those same diets mixed with alternate day fasting (ADF). The feast/famine (ADF) cycle produced better weight loss results than the diets alone. The takeaway was that diet variation was important in forcing adaptation.

One of the long term goals I've been working towards is metabolic flexibility (switching between burning carbs and fats easily) so I like to add a few extra carbs. I especially prefer to ride the keto/low-carb line going into hunting season. I've had a few instances in ketosis where I couldn't achieve high intensity activities because my body didn't have readily available carb/glucose fuel. Being able to "power up" on carbs before or during an activity is nice. But on a day to day basis an example would be on Saturday I had my first feast day in awhile. Nachos, tacos, alcohol... all that really tasty high-carb stuff. I didn't eat breakfast Sunday morning and took blood glucose and ketone levels in the afternoon before eating again. The readings told me I was in a moderate level of ketosis, so right back to business. Of course, your mileage may vary.

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Re: Who's doing keto?
« Reply #244 on: May 08, 2021, 07:44:58 AM »
Been doing keto for 3 weeks now. In conjunction with intermittent fasting. I'm down 12 lbs so far.

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Re: Who's doing keto?
« Reply #245 on: May 08, 2021, 08:18:51 AM »
Your body becomes more and more efficient at utilizing whatever diet/foods your using over a period of time.

Switching up diets (carbs vs protein vs fats) is capitalizing on the time it takes to switch over to higher efficiency for a particular diet.

Diarrhea and other unpleasant things are a result of inefficiencies, running the wrong foods through the wrong flora.   


I'm not a big fan of diet swapping, I prefer to stick with a diet that I feel best on with the least bloat, the least inflammation, and best energy. 

For me that is protien and fats, certian low or no carb green veggies, and intermittent fasting. 

If the scale isn't moving enough, fast more.


In the end its still calories in, calories out.

I just feel better maintaining efficiency vs "tricking" my body IE: not allowing it to become efficient.

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Re: Who's doing keto?
« Reply #246 on: May 08, 2021, 12:06:18 PM »
I quit drinking 3 weeks ago and the weight loss has increased quite a bit, to around 3 lbs a week.
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