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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #150 on: December 02, 2021, 08:34:20 PM »
Are the quotas ever filled?  Honestly don't know, but without hound hunting it'd be tough. Maybe need to start a go fund me account to fund a private, very large bounty on lions even if  it only helped make sure the quotas are at least filled. $3-4,000 bounty might get more out chasing em. Not sure of the legality.

Those catís wonít be the ultimate demise of huntingÖthose commissionerís will be.

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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #151 on: December 02, 2021, 08:46:35 PM »
Quote from: baldopepper 5link=topic=260750.msg3614533#msg3614533 date=1638505897
Are the quotas ever filled?  Honestly don't know, but without hound hunting it'd be tough. Maybe need to start a go fund me account to fund a private, very large bounty on lions even if  it only helped make sure the quotas are at least filled. $3-4,000 bounty might get more out chasing em. Not sure of the legality.

Those catís wonít be the ultimate demise of huntingÖthose commissionerís will be.
not just a problem with the elk in the blues. Cat population is out of control all over the east side. Not that many years ago that seeing a lion was unusual, now it's very common around  me (except when I have rifle with me). Have nearly run over 2 since the start of the hunting season and seemed one of the kids saw one almost every day they were out(unfortunately not able to get a shot off)

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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #152 on: December 02, 2021, 08:49:01 PM »
Are the quotas ever filled?  Honestly don't know, but without hound hunting it'd be tough. Maybe need to start a go fund me account to fund a private, very large bounty on lions even if  it only helped make sure the quotas are at least filled. $3-4,000 bounty might get more out chasing em. Not sure of the legality.

Those catís wonít be the ultimate demise of huntingÖthose commissionerís will be.

A lot of times the quotas for the units in the blues have been reached before the late season starts so you canít even hunt them after the first of the year.

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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #153 on: December 02, 2021, 08:59:37 PM »
Are the quotas ever filled?  Honestly don't know, but without hound hunting it'd be tough. Maybe need to start a go fund me account to fund a private, very large bounty on lions even if  it only helped make sure the quotas are at least filled. $3-4,000 bounty might get more out chasing em. Not sure of the legality.

Those catís wonít be the ultimate demise of huntingÖthose commissionerís will be.
 

 :yeah: I read the linked article. Pretty disgusting and hard to believe those 2 are commissioners

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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #154 on: December 03, 2021, 05:35:12 PM »
Latest twist by some wildlife activists and a couple of WDFW commissioners about the substantial collared elk calf mortality ó-the drop in elk population from 5600 to 3600 over 5 years  is perfectly normaló-because the Blues canít sustain an elk population of 5600. Even though the WDFW staff and the Blue Mountain Elk Management Plan solidly say otherwise.  Stay tuned.  This is significant.     

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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #155 on: December 07, 2021, 02:09:17 PM »
Dori Monson had tom Nelson on to it was a good listen..the local tribes is saying this is another form of white supremecy

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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #156 on: December 07, 2021, 05:25:48 PM »
Dori Monson had tom Nelson on to it was a good listen..the local tribes is saying this is another form of white supremecy
I believe it was solely directed at koontz.
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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #157 on: December 08, 2021, 09:52:02 AM »
The root cause is not simple, bears, cats, wolves, lack of NF management, WDFW managing for bulls (forgot the cows have calves), crop damage management and I row in Seabass's boat (no pun intended), the commission and those who control it are the tap root.  Keep the pressure on for spring bear kill before calving season.

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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #158 on: December 08, 2021, 09:57:15 AM »
Dori Monson had tom Nelson on to it was a good listen..the local tribes is saying this is another form of white supremecy
I believe it was solely directed at koontz.

It was directed at Smith and Koontz
People get offended at nothing at all. So, speak your mind and be unapologetic.

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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #159 on: December 26, 2021, 03:54:46 PM »
Landowner thanks for your efforts and keeping us updated on here. What is the next step for the committee your on after receiving the study data?
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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #160 on: December 28, 2021, 10:32:23 PM »
We have a crisis on our hands for sure.  The crisis is Smith and KoontzÖ they canít be more open with their mission to end all hunting.  They donít care about anything else.


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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #161 on: December 29, 2021, 09:22:04 AM »
Serious question.

Is there anything that prevents the tribes from going in a "managing" the various predators?

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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #162 on: December 29, 2021, 09:59:11 AM »
Serious question.

Is there anything that prevents the tribes from going in a "managing" the various predators?
The simple answer is no.  While I'm always an advocate of cooperative management of a shared resource, it may be to everyone's interest for Tribes to take a leading role given WDFW is handicapped by state policies/politics/initiatives. 
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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #163 on: December 29, 2021, 11:03:48 AM »
Serious question.

Is there anything that prevents the tribes from going in a "managing" the various predators?
The simple answer is no.  While I'm always an advocate of cooperative management of a shared resource, it may be to everyone's interest for Tribes to take a leading role given WDFW is handicapped by state policies/politics/initiatives.

Thanks.  Follow up.  Is there anything that prevent the tribes from "deputizing" non tribal members to help with such and effort?

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Re: Blues Elk Substantial Decline and the Root Cause
« Reply #164 on: December 29, 2021, 11:04:26 AM »
Serious question.

Is there anything that prevents the tribes from going in a "managing" the various predators?
The simple answer is no.  While I'm always an advocate of cooperative management of a shared resource, it may be to everyone's interest for Tribes to take a leading role given WDFW is handicapped by state policies/politics/initiatives.

Thanks.  Follow up.  Is there anything that prevents the tribes from "deputizing" non tribal members to help with such and effort?

 


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