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Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« on: May 12, 2021, 07:13:04 PM »
Anyone have any experience throwing morels or any raw mushroom in your freeze dried meals and letting the boiling water cook them? I’m unsure if there would be enough heat for long enough.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2021, 07:57:51 PM »
Sounds tasty, but I really don't want to put any fungus in my back country meals. I've had the same idea as well.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2021, 08:01:42 PM »
No, but I’m pretty sure it would be awesome.
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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2021, 08:50:04 PM »
That would be tasty.👍
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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2021, 09:06:52 PM »
Peak refuel has a chicken & rice dish that has a bunch of mushrooms...its pretty good

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2021, 09:50:46 PM »
Chantrelles in a beef and noodle would be great.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2021, 05:51:25 AM »
Peak refuel has a chicken & rice dish that has a bunch of mushrooms...its pretty good

Yes but those are pre cooked and freeze dried .

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2021, 06:34:00 AM »
I can't see how boiling in water would not be enough. If they're dried they might cook faster if rehydrated first. Maybe put the shrooms in first for a while, then add the rest of the meal for the required time.
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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2021, 07:51:06 AM »
I would if I had some around.

You could always test by putting them in a cup of boiling water and see what happens.  If they don't cook to your liking, try cooking then dehydrating and that should work. 

Sounds good.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2021, 08:18:34 AM »
We dehydrate our Morels, then just throw them in some warm water to rehydrate them before cooking - works awesome, and they don't weigh anything. Be great for backpacking, and they last forever that way.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2021, 05:38:05 PM »
I can't see how boiling in water would not be enough. If they're dried they might cook faster if rehydrated first. Maybe put the shrooms in first for a while, then add the rest of the meal for the required time.

I don’t know why I didn’t think of that.. of course that would work. Just throw them in the water while your getting it hot then poor it all in the pouch. Perfecto.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2021, 08:34:53 AM »
Not sure if there’s a difference between rehydrating them vs. cooking them. As far as I understand it, Morels need to be “cooked” for 8-12 min so they don’t give you GI issues. Not sure if hot water will “cook” them enough ? I’ve got a bunch already though and I’m down to try it...

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2021, 12:57:31 PM »
I ended up finding morels every day for 3 days last week and cooked them into my meals each time. Seemed to work great. Didn’t have any problems gut wise. I would throw them in the water for the last minute or so before it came to a boil then they cooked with the meal for the 10 minutes or so. 

Also when it comes to dehydrated morels they really aren’t very good unless you rehydrate then for at least a day before cooking preferably in milk.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2021, 02:46:54 PM »
Most wild mushrooms should be cooked over a skillet or in the oven. Some of the chemicals on fungi dissipate with heat. I'm unsure that adding raw dried mushrooms to boiling water would do the trick.
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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2021, 11:57:00 AM »
Most wild mushrooms should be cooked over a skillet or in the oven. Some of the chemicals on fungi dissipate with heat. I'm unsure that adding raw dried mushrooms to boiling water would do the trick.

Not dried, fresh picked.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2021, 03:00:27 PM »
Most wild mushrooms should be cooked over a skillet or in the oven. Some of the chemicals on fungi dissipate with heat. I'm unsure that adding raw dried mushrooms to boiling water would do the trick.

Not dried, fresh picked.
No idea then. I wouldn't wait until the hunting trip to try them out, though.
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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2021, 02:53:48 PM »
Most wild mushrooms should be cooked over a skillet or in the oven. Some of the chemicals on fungi dissipate with heat. I'm unsure that adding raw dried mushrooms to boiling water would do the trick.

Not dried, fresh picked.
No idea then. I wouldn't wait until the hunting trip to try them out, though.

You missed the point. The mushrooms would have been picked during the trip.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2021, 03:31:21 PM »
Where are you finding morels during hunting season?  They are long gone around here by September.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2021, 12:14:51 AM »
We dehydrated a bunch and used them in the stroganoff (mountain house, but the stowaway gourmet doeganoff is phenomenal and would be great with morels too).

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2021, 10:09:21 AM »
Where are you finding morels during hunting season?  They are long gone around here by September.
I found em turkey hunting in NE in May. That's when I've had the idea. I didn't do it either. I was mighty tempted. NE was also overrun at this time of year with a suillus species that looked related to a slippery jack, which is related to a bolete/porcini. I was pretty tempted to try those too. But you know... "find many, before trying any" and all that...

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2021, 10:34:04 AM »
Most wild mushrooms should be cooked over a skillet or in the oven. Some of the chemicals on fungi dissipate with heat. I'm unsure that adding raw dried mushrooms to boiling water would do the trick.

Not dried, fresh picked.
No idea then. I wouldn't wait until the hunting trip to try them out, though.

You missed the point. The mushrooms would have been picked during the trip.

Fresh is the same. Most fresh, wild mushrooms have toxins that need to be cooked out. Porcini are an exception (boletus edulis)I'm dubious that adding raw, fresh mushrooms to dehydrated food and only adding boiling water to cook would eliminate those toxins. They should be thoroughly pre-cooked first, like sautéing or roasting over the fire . I have personal experience with eating raw, uncooked mushrooms. The result will prevent your hunting for at least 24 hours. And, and of special concern if you have a limited water supply, you will dehydrate rapidly from both ends. I have vast professional experience with wild mushrooms. Please take this seriously to not ruin your hunt or impact your health.
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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2021, 10:35:52 AM »
Most wild mushrooms should be cooked over a skillet or in the oven. Some of the chemicals on fungi dissipate with heat. I'm unsure that adding raw dried mushrooms to boiling water would do the trick.

Not dried, fresh picked.
No idea then. I wouldn't wait until the hunting trip to try them out, though.

You missed the point. The mushrooms would have been picked during the trip.

Fresh is the same. Most fresh, wild mushrooms have toxins that need to be cooked out. Porcini are an exception (boletus edulis)I'm dubious that adding raw, fresh mushrooms to dehydrated food and only adding boiling water to cook would eliminate those toxins. They should be thoroughly pre-cooked first, like sautéing or roasting over the fire . I have personal experience with eating raw, uncooked mushrooms. The result will prevent your hunting for at least 24 hours. And, and of special concern if you have a limited water supply, you will dehydrate rapidly from both ends. I have vast professional experience with wild mushrooms. Please take this seriously to not ruin your hunt or impact your health.

No, you missed the point that I’m not saying I’m bringing mushrooms on a hunt that were previously picked. I was eating mushrooms I was finding during my hunt. And I did it 3 days in a row with every meal and it was great.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2021, 10:36:19 AM »
Where are you finding morels during hunting season?  They are long gone around here by September.

In the spring when they grow.

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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2021, 10:37:36 AM »
Most wild mushrooms should be cooked over a skillet or in the oven. Some of the chemicals on fungi dissipate with heat. I'm unsure that adding raw dried mushrooms to boiling water would do the trick.

Not dried, fresh picked.
No idea then. I wouldn't wait until the hunting trip to try them out, though.

You missed the point. The mushrooms would have been picked during the trip.

Fresh is the same. Most fresh, wild mushrooms have toxins that need to be cooked out. Porcini are an exception (boletus edulis)I'm dubious that adding raw, fresh mushrooms to dehydrated food and only adding boiling water to cook would eliminate those toxins. They should be thoroughly pre-cooked first, like sautéing or roasting over the fire . I have personal experience with eating raw, uncooked mushrooms. The result will prevent your hunting for at least 24 hours. And, and of special concern if you have a limited water supply, you will dehydrate rapidly from both ends. I have vast professional experience with wild mushrooms. Please take this seriously to not ruin your hunt or impact your health.

No, you missed the point that I’m not saying I’m bringing mushrooms on a hunt that were previously picked. I was eating mushrooms I was finding during my hunt. And I did it 3 days in a row with every meal and it was great.

Glad it worked out for you!  :tup:
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Re: Cooking morels in your freeze dried meals?
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2021, 11:02:46 AM »
Most wild mushrooms should be cooked over a skillet or in the oven. Some of the chemicals on fungi dissipate with heat. I'm unsure that adding raw dried mushrooms to boiling water would do the trick.

Not dried, fresh picked.
No idea then. I wouldn't wait until the hunting trip to try them out, though.

You missed the point. The mushrooms would have been picked during the trip.

Fresh is the same. Most fresh, wild mushrooms have toxins that need to be cooked out. Porcini are an exception (boletus edulis)I'm dubious that adding raw, fresh mushrooms to dehydrated food and only adding boiling water to cook would eliminate those toxins. They should be thoroughly pre-cooked first, like sautéing or roasting over the fire . I have personal experience with eating raw, uncooked mushrooms. The result will prevent your hunting for at least 24 hours. And, and of special concern if you have a limited water supply, you will dehydrate rapidly from both ends. I have vast professional experience with wild mushrooms. Please take this seriously to not ruin your hunt or impact your health.

No, you missed the point that I’m not saying I’m bringing mushrooms on a hunt that were previously picked. I was eating mushrooms I was finding during my hunt. And I did it 3 days in a row with every meal and it was great.

Glad it worked out for you!  :tup:

For whatever it’s worth I have been cooking morels in temps below 212 my entire life in various stews and such. Never heard of anyone getting sick from it.

 


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