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Alkali
« on: May 16, 2021, 10:26:52 AM »
Well whoís going gamble on this hunt ? Archery hunters high potential of most units being closed for fall maneuvers. Muzzy hunters probably have the best opportunity if the units are open and the elk donít get pushed onto the closed zone or into private. Rifle guys it will be like a race track up and down the ridge looking for elk that are crossing back and forth from private and closed areas plus add a little weather ( fog) . This was a pretty good hunt for the guys that drew the tags previously but now with the huge increase of permits I think it will be a giant cluster.


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Re: Alkali
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2021, 12:30:43 PM »
I wonít burn muzzy points now that itís a quality hunt.  :twocents:
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Re: Alkali
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2021, 01:28:16 PM »
I canít believe they made these quality tags. There are way to many variables out of your control. Heck I had the muzzy bull tag last year. I was kind of at my wits end for the first week. Not much open. Had permission on private. But the bulls leave the fields before light and walk right into a closed range stand there on the other side of the fence and stare at you. Wdfw really screwed the pooch on this one. If I had minimal points I may put in. But I would say anything over 3 would be a waste. Definitely not a hunt for people who dont like to get out and hike your arse off. The master hunters push all those elk down in the canyons out of sight of the road for months prior to tag holders getting in there. Plus all the native pressure. Those elk wise up and head straight for the impact center.
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Re: Alkali
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2021, 01:40:27 PM »
Is there some management goal with all the tags. Herd reduction or something...used to be a sleeper unit...tons of good animals in there.

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Re: Alkali
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2021, 02:00:10 PM »
I canít believe they made these quality tags. There are way to many variables out of your control. Heck I had the muzzy bull tag last year. I was kind of at my wits end for the first week. Not much open. Had permission on private. But the bulls leave the fields before light and walk right into a closed range stand there on the other side of the fence and stare at you. Wdfw really screwed the pooch on this one. If I had minimal points I may put in. But I would say anything over 3 would be a waste. Definitely not a hunt for people who dont like to get out and hike your arse off. The master hunters push all those elk down in the canyons out of sight of the road for months prior to tag holders getting in there. Plus all the native pressure. Those elk wise up and head straight for the impact center.
The Master Hunter season is only the month of August.
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Re: Alkali
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2021, 03:37:34 PM »
I canít believe they made these quality tags. There are way to many variables out of your control. Heck I had the muzzy bull tag last year. I was kind of at my wits end for the first week. Not much open. Had permission on private. But the bulls leave the fields before light and walk right into a closed range stand there on the other side of the fence and stare at you. Wdfw really screwed the pooch on this one. If I had minimal points I may put in. But I would say anything over 3 would be a waste. Definitely not a hunt for people who dont like to get out and hike your arse off. The master hunters push all those elk down in the canyons out of sight of the road for months prior to tag holders getting in there. Plus all the native pressure. Those elk wise up and head straight for the impact center.
The Master Hunter season is only the month of August.
yeah thatís new this year.
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Re: Alkali
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2021, 05:33:31 PM »
I've been putting in for muzzie bull in this unit only for like 10 years now.  With it going to quality, ill never use points on it.  What pisses me off is that now I've got 17 points in the bull category and the muzzie bull tags are a joke!  What a waste.  I don't understand how they consider that a quality hunt.

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Re: Alkali
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2021, 05:46:25 PM »
How do they consider there's quality blacktail tags it's a joke idoits making decisions!

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Re: Alkali
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2021, 05:47:43 PM »
I've been putting in for muzzie bull in this unit only for like 10 years now.  With it going to quality, ill never use points on it.  What pisses me off is that now I've got 17 points in the bull category and the muzzie bull tags are a joke!  What a waste.  I don't understand how they consider that a quality hunt.

Well, it's a relative term, better experience than other tags which is getting to be a pretty easy bar to cross.  It also costs more to apply now, can't think that doesn't come into play at some level in the discussion.

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Re: Alkali
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2021, 06:06:35 PM »
7.10 for a general application or 13.10 for a quality application.
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Re: Alkali
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2021, 06:32:44 PM »
How do they consider there's quality blacktail tags it's a joke idoits making decisions!

Getting to hunt blacktails in the rut with minimal pressure is quality for a blacktail hunter.  :dunno:

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Re: Alkali
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2021, 06:36:23 PM »
Classifying Alkali as a Quality permit is perplexing. Perhaps it's a statement on the qualtity of our state's elk herds.
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Re: Alkali
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2021, 07:13:43 PM »
Classifying Alkali as a Quality permit is perplexing. Perhaps it's a statement on the qualtity of our state's elk herds.
donít get me wrong there are some good bulls in there but that doesnít mean you can hunt them. The best ranges for elk are always closed. My whole thing is when Wdfw says this is a quality permit. My question is why? You may draw a tag and militaryís says sorry thereís nothing open.  :dunno:. The military could care less you have a tag.
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Re: Alkali
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2021, 07:17:51 PM »
I've been putting in for muzzie bull in this unit only for like 10 years now.  With it going to quality, ill never use points on it.  What pisses me off is that now I've got 17 points in the bull category and the muzzie bull tags are a joke!  What a waste.  I don't understand how they consider that a quality hunt.
agree with you 100%. Muzzle loaders set the shaft when it comes to bull tags. Just hope for multi and burn your points on something good
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Re: Alkali
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2021, 07:41:29 PM »
When ever I think about the alkali I get depressed and pissed. When it comes to deer, THE TRIBES Fíd it up completely!!!!!!    RUINED it, selfish people!!!!  Used to be great deer hunting in the 90ís, our group that drew a couple times said once the natives figure this out, we are Fíd. And they wiped out the deer in a short time! Elk are next!
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