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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2021, 07:59:36 PM »
I could not find that, it seems totally ignored.
I just watched it again.  You are correct, totally disregarded the staff report. They made a mockery of entire process as well as parliamentary procedures. I guess only verbal comments matter. I'll dig for the staff report mostly out of curiosity.  I'm not sure I've ever seen such public disregard for staff advisors, much less the advisory committee (gmac).

Is there a way to use any of this against them? Send it up the flagpole somehow? Parliamentary procedure is a thing and itís a thing for a reason. If they ignored it, it seems thereíd be validity in questioning the whole process.

I have crappy cell service and canít get the video to play where Iím at.
I donít think Jay is going to care.


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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2021, 08:11:10 PM »
https://m.facebook.com/groups/875337566494224/?ref=group_browse

Please join this group and take it seriously. There's no reason we can't boycott this state while still voicing our opinion. Washington obviously cares about special interest greenie groups more than hunter's, conservation and actual science, but above that they care about revenue. In my opinion, the only way we see change is if we hit them in the wallet.

Not buying tags is just what Lorna smith and Fred koontz want. That for sure guarantees your not going kill a bear or two in the fall or a cougar. You also will no longer going to have skin in the game. How likely are you to stay engaged in whatís happening if you arenít keeping some skin in the game.

Theyíve made it easy to attend these meetings via zoom, sportsman need to get more active and engaged.

Lots of guys are upset about losing opportunity but how many guys are going to kill some bears in the fall. You can still make a sizable difference in the predator population but most guys arenít going to do anything about it.
I am done throwing good money after bad.  They are listening to those that donít buy tags right now.  Why should we have too to still have a voice?


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Personally I think that mentality is playing right into their hand. The more guys that refuse to buy licenses is going to give people like Lorna Smith numbers that show hunting is a dying past time in WA and theyíll just keep pushing the envelope to take more and more.

I donít blame anyone for going out of state to hunt. I do it. The hunting and management in other states is obviously better. But I am not going to quit on Washington. The pendulum will swing back the other way. It just takes time.


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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2021, 08:14:26 PM »
They arenít going to pay attention until they have a budget issue.  I have been bugging them for 10 years on predator control.  They donít care.  I have done nothing but watch opportunity for bowhunters (an example) be continually decreased.  So yeah, I am done.  Good luck to them.


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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2021, 07:45:33 PM »
Bump. Meeting is tomorrow morning. Pre-register before 8:00am to speak at the open public comment period which starts at 9:00am.

Donít know what to say? Here is a great quote I saw from Brian Lynn in an article on Northwest Sportsmans Mag.

 ďItís a sad day for wildlife management when appointed game commissioners allow a vocal minority using nothing but emotion to overrule and cancel the stateís own trained wildlife biologists using accepted scientific principles and methods,Ē


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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2021, 08:32:53 PM »
I hafta work, but I can check in on HW play by play

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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2021, 08:34:02 PM »
Everytime you hear the word "science" take a big shot of whiskey

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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2021, 08:36:42 PM »
We need to get on all of these meetings and at least make our voices heard. I am going to talk about how public opinion is not a sound way to manage fish or wildlife. I will also ask how the decision to stop spring bear hunting for 2022 helps fo fulfill the WDFW's goals. I would also like to ask how Lorna Smith's vote does not advance a personal agenda, given her written statements about fair chase and spring bear hunting. Mrs. Smith seems like she is advancing a personal agenda and violating section C item 2 of commission operating principles. There are other operating principles that were not followed for this vote. Section C item 4 During Commission meetings, Commission members shall submit any requests for a commission action or agenda item to the Executive Assistant at least one month prior to a scheduled meeting, so that it can be discussed during the future meeting planning agenda item. That did not happen, it was voted on much less than a month from the time it was introduced.
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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2021, 08:37:03 PM »
Everytime you hear the word "science" take a big shot of whiskey

Is there enough whiskey around to get through the whole meeting :chuckle:

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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2021, 08:40:10 PM »
Itís pretty clear that some of these folks donít care about wildlife. A health wildlife population isnít their objective. A few of them donít believe we should be hunting at allÖthatís the long game they are playing. 

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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2021, 08:40:26 AM »
Good Job Saylean
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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2021, 09:07:36 AM »
Well said "Marc Alberts"

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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2021, 09:30:25 AM »
Well said "Marc Alberts"

some great  testimony a couple of which have given Smith and Koontz the business.
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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2021, 09:36:05 AM »
Well, how do you guys feel about it? Any changes coming? Couldnít listen in this AM
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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2021, 09:39:54 AM »
Well, how do you guys feel about it? Any changes coming? Couldnít listen in this AM

nothing will change as a result of talking with the commission, but its a good show of support
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Re: Wdfw commission meeting dec 2nd 3rd
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2021, 09:43:21 AM »
Good show on the meeting. Thanks everyone, probably no changes but they have heard plenty from the hunting community.
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