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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2021, 09:36:12 PM »
Sad to see explicit cheering of illegal actions that condemned some animals (who had no choice in their selection of species-level biology or geographic location) to a prolonged and agonizing death.  The anti's just love to see statements like that, I'm sure.

I hope I'm not alone on this site in this regard, and I don't believe I am, but I stand against actions like this.  Not the way to work towards resolution of conflict over management of wildlife (which is difficult, I am aware), or convince the broader public that hunters can be trusted in the stewardship of wildlife.

 Itís unfortunate itís come to this, but Iíve learned over my many years that there is no compromise on the left. People are figuring it out, itís not limited to the issue anymore either. :twocents:
100% spot on. there is no compromise. problem with most conservatives/republicans is were told we have to keep the higher standard, take the higher road. well, look where that has left us. weve been 'turning the other cheek' for so long that it almost appears weve forgotten how to fight. people always think fighting is like boxing, clean and organized. at some point, were gonna have to realize the real stuff happens in the trenches. its a nasty way to go about it, but thats the truth. keep being told to stay the higher moral and do it the 'right' way, well be legislated right out or broke to the point where its an impossible climb out of the hole weve allowed talking heads to bury us in

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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #76 on: December 06, 2021, 05:42:50 AM »
Two reasons the poisoning of the wolves is unfortunate.

1. The act will fiel sentiment against hunters even if hunters had nothing to do with it.

2. This would of been a pack that would of served nicely for capturing and relocating to the areas so adamant on  protecting the beast (Portland, Seattle, etc)
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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #77 on: December 06, 2021, 07:49:39 AM »
Two reasons the poisoning of the wolves is unfortunate.

1. The act will fiel sentiment against hunters even if hunters had nothing to do with it.

2. This would of been a pack that would of served nicely for capturing and relocating to the areas so adamant on  protecting the beast (Portland, Seattle, etc)

They can still relocate them.  They could feed the animals in the tent zoo?  Oh wait they have poison in them......

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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #78 on: December 06, 2021, 08:47:06 AM »
Do any of you use mouse poison? Or Roundup in your driveway? What's the difference? It's poisoning living breathing organisms. Again, what's the difference? The Province of Alberta still poisons wolves regularly with strychnine to reduce their population to help out caribou. A couple hundred a year last I knew. What makes poisoning mice ok but not wolves?

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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #79 on: December 06, 2021, 09:00:58 AM »
Do any of you use mouse poison? Or Roundup in your driveway? What's the difference? It's poisoning living breathing organisms. Again, what's the difference? The Province of Alberta still poisons wolves regularly with strychnine to reduce their population to help out caribou. A couple hundred a year last I knew. What makes poisoning mice ok but not wolves?

Not me, I wouldn't want my dogs getting into poisoned mouse carcasses or the bait itself.

Same with wolf poison, wouldn't want martin or wolverine getting into it.

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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #80 on: December 06, 2021, 09:02:57 AM »
Do any of you use mouse poison? Or Roundup in your driveway? What's the difference? It's poisoning living breathing organisms. Again, what's the difference? The Province of Alberta still poisons wolves regularly with strychnine to reduce their population to help out caribou. A couple hundred a year last I knew. What makes poisoning mice ok but not wolves?
Because men have turned sensational....itís a generation thing.  We poisoned the heck out of them back in the day for a reason.  No one cared about the feelers of the antiís
back then.  Society has changed and some on here have morphed along with the change.  Bottom line is wolves suck and donít fit in to the food chain.  We are the top carnivore now. 

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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #81 on: December 06, 2021, 09:06:09 AM »
Do any of you use mouse poison? Or Roundup in your driveway? What's the difference? It's poisoning living breathing organisms. Again, what's the difference? The Province of Alberta still poisons wolves regularly with strychnine to reduce their population to help out caribou. A couple hundred a year last I knew. What makes poisoning mice ok but not wolves?
I do because it is legal.  I do have concerns that rodents leaving my bait boxes around my cabin will be eaten by raptors and I am assuming eating rodents that are dying from poison is not good for the raptors.
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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #82 on: December 06, 2021, 09:06:50 AM »
I would rather they get lead poisoned.

They need to learn to fear humans.


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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #83 on: December 06, 2021, 09:07:05 AM »
I support state sponsored management up too poisoning and helicopter gunning.

Never gonna happen.

SSS is going to do more harm than good, poisin killing unintended animals, not enough could be shot to make a dent, and they'd crucify you and destroy your life.  The risk isn't worth a couple dead wolves that would quickly backfill.

Washington is screwed.

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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #84 on: December 06, 2021, 10:25:33 AM »
Ok for the record, I do not use poison either. I'm just asking for those who are saying it is somehow extreme to do such a thing. I have 30 some odd cats I feed 50# of food a week on top of them eating mice. You won't find mouse poop in my barn or sheds anywhere! I don't want them getting sick from it just as KFhunter stated. Or the red tailed hawks that nest in the tree in my backyard. I just don't understand how people think sometimes. It's ok over here but not over here...

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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #85 on: December 10, 2021, 09:14:42 PM »
Gross mismanagement was always going to lead to public intolerance, look how far WDFW has fallen in public trust, especially when they call a wolf depredation on cattle an angry badger, a coyote, domestic dogs, or coyotes.."game wardens" had to freaking call Olympia to get approval to call it a wolf attack even when the calf was still alive, its arse eaten out, and the pack howling 100 yards away.

These actions led to Stevens County getting their own large carnivore person, Jeff Flood, and now Klickitat county is doing it over there.

More counties are going to follow suit.

WDFW is in a political quagmire, stalled, they cannot do their job.

"Gross mismanagement"? I think it's being managed just the way WDFW wants it managed.

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Bringing the wolves in was Never about balancing the ecosystem, it was about destroying the balance. And as many have seen the wolves have and are doing a fine job of it. Remember the Rockholm documentary on the Yellowstone elk herd? How many sick elk were slaughtered by the wolves in five years?

Oregon and WA came out with first wolf pack in 70 years on the very same day, imagine the coordination for that line of BS.

Livestock producers etc. figured out along time ago, ways to protect their livestock instead of wasting more livestock by calling the fraud department.

Anyone who wants to complain about the way wolves die, should place their anger 'sad feelings' at those who brought the wolves in and then refuse to manage them.. :twocents:





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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #86 on: December 10, 2021, 10:53:07 PM »
It is a total mess and it will get ugly and the cost will be huge.
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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #87 on: December 27, 2021, 12:04:49 PM »
 :tup:  If he comes forward we can send him a reward!

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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #88 on: December 27, 2021, 01:32:55 PM »
ďThe system failed me and is rigged against me so Iím justified in my actionsĒ never ends well.
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Re: Oregon Wolf Pack Poisoned
« Reply #89 on: December 27, 2021, 02:38:40 PM »
It is a total mess and it will get ugly and the cost will be huge.
Why do the tree huggers get their way these days?
   

Because they are serial litigators and good at it. Someone more talented than me needs to sue them for past disasters they created. Turn the tables on them. Anti logging and forest management and the resulting forest fire costs would be a great start. They have never been held accountable. They said they would save the spotted owl ( the population of them has since plummeted) but they sure created some unhealthy forests. They just move to the next ďcauseĒ and right now itís predators in abundance.

 


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