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Offline Buckhunter24

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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2021, 08:23:08 AM »
For me, it's not too late to start being an active participant in working to save hunting.

I've been a 'once in awhile I'll do something' person and I know I can do better and do more.

For all the splinter groups, and enemies wearing sheeps clothing amongst the hunting groups, for all the reasons and excuses why things didn't work out in the past, it doesn't change the fact that I can do more to help hunting.

So I will.

When future generations look to me and ask if I did all I could to help save hunting, I want to say that I did all that I was capable of.

Over the last few weeks I've joined a couple pro hunting groups I previously did not belong to, I set a up small recurring monthly donation to a pro hunting organization, I purchased memberships to a couple pro hunting organizations, I wrote some emails to those who make the decisions at the Government level letting them know the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation is worth saving from the attacks of the anti hunting forces.

I learned how to share and spread the online messages of pro hunting organizations to further get the word out to those who are in favor of supporting us.

I choose to be in the asset column of Hunting Conservation.

I hope others will do the same.





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If you have a minute would you post the group you are donating to?

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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2021, 09:10:18 AM »
Ya ,I agree that conservation is what the definition is.
With that said.
Many factors come into play with this spring bear closure.

When you change the definition of words you have a much bigger deeper agenda. Spring Bear hunting is just the beginning! They are playing chess and we are playing checker's. They have been playing the long game for a long time and now they are winning.

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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2021, 09:27:02 AM »
Ya ,I agree that conservation is what the definition is.
With that said.
Many factors come into play with this spring bear closure.

When you change the definition of words you have a much bigger deeper agenda. Spring Bear hunting is just the beginning! They are playing chess and we are playing checker's. They have been playing the long game for a long time and now they are winning.

The same people you see ruining our country are the same ones involved in taking away our hunting. Postmodernists - trained and educated by liberal activism institutions. Postmodernists are in a constant push to change the meaning of words and skew language to their favor.

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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2021, 09:33:47 AM »
Ya ,I agree that conservation is what the definition is.
With that said.
Many factors come into play with this spring bear closure.

When you change the definition of words you have a much bigger deeper agenda. Spring Bear hunting is just the beginning! They are playing chess and we are playing checker's. They have been playing the long game for a long time and now they are winning.

The same people you see ruining our country are the same ones involved in taking away our hunting. Postmodernists - trained and educated by liberal activism institutions. Postmodernists are in a constant push to change the meaning of words and skew language to their favor.

I'll be a little more real ....
Conservation is the webster dictionary definition says it is.
End of story.
This isn't like the 200 different transgender we have now.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2021, 09:49:48 AM »
Ya ,I agree that conservation is what the definition is.
With that said.
Many factors come into play with this spring bear closure.

When you change the definition of words you have a much bigger deeper agenda. Spring Bear hunting is just the beginning! They are playing chess and we are playing checker's. They have been playing the long game for a long time and now they are winning.

The same people you see ruining our country are the same ones involved in taking away our hunting. Postmodernists - trained and educated by liberal activism institutions. Postmodernists are in a constant push to change the meaning of words and skew language to their favor.

You are 100% correct...unfortunately. I hate to be "that" guy. I typically shy away from an alarmist/conspiracy mindset but these folks aren't even covert anymore. They are telling you, very overtly, what their intentions are. It's being played out on decision by decision basis in may different arenas.

I am deeply involved in 3 things...my business (financial services), hunting/fishing and high school football. I am seeing these issues playout in the exact same way by the same player's in everything I care about.

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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2021, 09:57:41 AM »
Posting your intension of poaching, or any crime, on the internet is not suggested. I believe it also violates forum policy. I'm not disagreeing with your sentiments. I'm questioning the visual impact this has on non-hunters regarding our privileges and heritage, and the effect it'll have on you if/when you're caught by LE down the road.
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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2021, 09:59:56 AM »
Internal squabbles over shooting dinks, bears, hunting with dogs or other old as the day is irrelevant. The opposition doesn't want any animal shot, ever.  They will take any incremental reduction in hunting they can create.  They don't care about our internal debates because ultimately, hunters are a slim slice of the public at large.  In a liberal state with no competition for governing, the only hope is that people who don't hunt can be convinced that hunting is a legacy and tradition with real value and it's preservation is sensible. So much so that they'd consider it when they vote. Our choir is way too small and it's bickering isn't causing or worsening the problem. 

Picking on bears is easy.  I think it's because most non hunters don't believe we eat them, just kill them.  They don't believe they are the same as deer/elk with respect to a food source.  They see it as "trophy" hunting, senseless killing without redeeming merit.  Of course that's wrong, but they don't know it.  Go ask a non hunter if they've ever eaten bear and you are likely to hear, "can you eat bear? Yuck."   Of course the ancillary benefit of protecting predators is the reduction in hunting quality and through time, hunters. 

Hunters have no specific codified rights in WA.  We are governed by the left, by preservationists, not conservationists. Governed by anti hunters and anti 2nd amendment folks. Our issues aren't even publicly known because it's not in the media.  The media is an extension of the above.  Without broad public support from those that do not hunt, we are moving gradually toward zero.   If you live in a city on the west side, ask someone in the grocery line what they think of spring bear being closed.  You'll get a blank ass stare and a "I'm sorry, what?"  That's why they know they can get away with it.

The only real chance I see is hunters getting a purely hunting rights org and leveraging all the manufacturers of equipment used in hunting to fund real lobbying.  And by that, I mean funding campaigns for their opponents in competitive districts. Elected persons only care about not being elected again.  Appointed members only have to account to the person who appointed them. 

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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2021, 11:03:45 AM »
Posting your intension of poaching, or any crime, on the internet is not suggested. I believe it also violates forum policy. I'm not disagreeing with your sentiments. I'm questioning the visual impact this has on non-hunters regarding our privileges and heritage, and the effect it'll have on you if/when you're caught by LE down the road.
then ban me from the forum

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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2021, 11:40:17 AM »
Are there any news articles on this?

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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2021, 12:13:15 PM »
Posting your intension of poaching, or any crime, on the internet is not suggested. I believe it also violates forum policy. I'm not disagreeing with your sentiments. I'm questioning the visual impact this has on non-hunters regarding our privileges and heritage, and the effect it'll have on you if/when you're caught by LE down the road.
then ban me from the forum

Take it easy fella. Just a friendly suggestion not to incriminate yourself. Not everyone is your enemy.
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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2021, 12:51:17 PM »
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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2021, 01:18:59 PM »
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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2021, 01:19:37 PM »
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Re: Is this why we lost our spring bear season?
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2021, 01:31:03 PM »
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