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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2022, 11:25:04 AM »
I'm in one of those Stupid Burro counties and my reps and Senator have been republican for years. Now they have put me in the 8th district and I finally might get a red Congressional rep too (Go Regan!) King and central Snohomish counties will be tough but Pierce has some brains too1 Now Whatcom, San Juan, Island, and especially Thurston are the ones we must turn. With all the government workers  :kneel:and Evergreen alumni living there Thurston is a LOOOOOONNNNNNGGGG shot! Not confident about that one. GO Tiffany!


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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2022, 03:24:45 PM »
This article is a debrief of the meeting.

WFW Commission culture war continues
Fish and wildlife commissioners still arguing over hunting document
By Eric Barker of the Tribune Jun 3, 2022 Comments

https://lmtribune.com/outdoors/wfw-commission-culture-war-continues/article_92f93c07-d6d6-5366-9184-a36cf250b040.html?fbclid=IwAR2iGodRDW1dDCE4VqY-fxQJxyY3qbRWFyOEK-mr59IQS-ce4StZdW9U6BQ
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2022, 03:43:09 PM »
Need to get in the email boxes of tge other commissioners make sure  they don't get in the get sucked in to there agenda

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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2022, 03:51:36 PM »
From the article, “how the commission should balance the views of the general population with those of the minority of residents who hunt” is as I see it the main problem. Nope, no way should they make any seasons based on this. But sadly it seems be be their only voice and hunters ignored.
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #64 on: February 08, 2023, 06:19:08 PM »
The goal is to end hunting in WA…it’s that simple.

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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #65 on: February 08, 2023, 07:27:42 PM »
CA will not go first if ever, the 270,000 acre Tejon has some pull

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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #66 on: February 08, 2023, 07:30:53 PM »
apply some pressure - email Smith and Rowland and demand their resignation. cc the WDFW commission email so it gets distributed to the whole commission. be specific about why, and be civil and professional. some form of pressure worked to get Koontz to resign.

commission@dfw.wa.gov

Lorna.Smith@dfw.gov.net

mjrowland@greatcat.net

this petition was from a while ago, but a few folks at least were willing to sign:

https://www.change.org/p/lorna-smith-demand-lorna-smith-resign-from-washington-dept-of-fish-and-wildlife-wdfw-commission-d4f70a10-ce34-431a-9e16-43e3d97c5995

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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #67 on: February 08, 2023, 08:03:56 PM »
Just don't see them caving.  Forced out under protest maybe.
Economy failure = Too many people spending money they don't have on things they don't need to impress people they don't like.

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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #68 on: February 08, 2023, 08:30:56 PM »
Just don't see them caving.  Forced out under protest maybe.

I agree, but Koontz caved - did you think he would? I didn't...

Takes literally 2 minutes and zero dollars to write an email - took us just as long to post our replies here.


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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #69 on: February 08, 2023, 09:15:02 PM »
Koontz was out numbered at the time.  They have their dream team now, potentially more coming....  Got to cut them off at the knees, so to speak, not literally.
Economy failure = Too many people spending money they don't have on things they don't need to impress people they don't like.

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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #70 on: February 10, 2023, 03:12:04 PM »
Fish Hunt NW show from last night with a great section regarding the commission:
The whole episode is great stuff, but the Lorna Smith stuff starts around 42 minutes if I remember correctly.

https://www.youtube.com/live/Q-mSG32Bgx0?feature=share
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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #71 on: February 10, 2023, 08:57:31 PM »
Good info on the link! I jumped to the 45:00 spot for the Lorna Smith info...THANKS! :tup:

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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #72 on: February 11, 2023, 06:24:19 AM »
Well there you go a written confession from Lorna about her breaking state wildlife rules. Does that not disqualify you from being on the commission? Can A person with wildlife violations be appointed to the commission? Seems like they could be if they leave her on there. You can’t even be a master hunter if you’ve had a wild life violation in the last 10 years. And if you receive one while you are a master hunter you are stripped of your title. Why would this be different for the commission who makes all of our rules?

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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #73 on: February 11, 2023, 06:59:03 AM »
Well there you go a written confession from Lorna about her breaking state wildlife rules. Does that not disqualify you from being on the commission? Can A person with wildlife violations be appointed to the commission? Seems like they could be if they leave her on there. You can’t even be a master hunter if you’ve had a wild life violation in the last 10 years. And if you receive one while you are a master hunter you are stripped of your title. Why would this be different for the commission who makes all of our rules?
Nothing in the law prohibits someone with a previous wildlife conviction from serving on the commission.

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Re: Commissioners Smith and Rowlands Rant
« Reply #74 on: February 11, 2023, 07:42:20 AM »
Well there you go a written confession from Lorna about her breaking state wildlife rules. Does that not disqualify you from being on the commission? Can A person with wildlife violations be appointed to the commission? Seems like they could be if they leave her on there. You can’t even be a master hunter if you’ve had a wild life violation in the last 10 years. And if you receive one while you are a master hunter you are stripped of your title. Why would this be different for the commission who makes all of our rules?
I vehemently disapprove of Lorna being on the commission and think her disdain for hunters, lack of knowledge on hunting/fishing issues, and contempt for people who disagree with her make her unfit to serve.  That said...this barter thing...gimme a break.  Hate to see this being a focal point of attack on her given it is so weak...it dilutes the more legitimate criticism for which she should be removed.  Frankly, it plays right into her hand and makes it easier for her to summarily dismiss more legitimate criticism.   :twocents:
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