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Author Topic: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy  (Read 10210 times)

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2022, 12:57:11 AM »
I sent a comment  :tup:
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2022, 08:28:23 AM »
I'm pretty upset right now .
That we don't get a comment period.
I mean what about all of our stake holders in,
Canada
Russia
Australia
Germany
And the other 50 states.
They all had a say last time!
Give me a break ,freaking joke.


I will stop with any more "negative" comments.
Seems some may be too sensitive to it.
And resort to name calling and such.

But I will say without a doubt that I have probably sent more emails to the Commission than most people ever have.
My comments in the comment period for spring bear was ALOT. There are a few members here that I'm sure know that. Heck they probably are not doing a comment period cause of me .
I'm not gonna bash members for sending emails ,that's great and all . Hopefully they do reinstate the season.
At the same time I'm done begging those people for anything.
I do believe the Commission mind is made up.
That's just my personal opinion.
I didn't even have to look at the agenda of the meeting to tell ya that it was on the chopping block.
Didn't look at that till last night.

To many of you that my statement hurts your feelings or this or that ,I'm guessing you should of sent more emails last year,and more comments durring the comment period.
I know my efforts went right to the recycled spam folder.
With inslee in control and his little Commission minions.
Sorry my faith in the Commission is gone.
I honestly believe they should do away with the Commission and put DNR and WDFW together to set game regulations for this state in the best interest of game species in this state.

I do support spring bear,I'm done begging.
The state can pay for public safety removal.
The state can pay for timber damage
The state doesn't need my money for permits.

That's the message the Commission sent me with there decision.
All there stake holders from all over the world they allowed to comment last year can pay for those things.
I'm out.
And really WDFW needs to feel the financial impact of there decision. Along with future decisions that the Commission makes. It may be time for a wake up call for them on who really pays for this stuff. Hunters voices are not heard.
But when you don't have hunters money it makes a lot more impact.




« Last Edit: November 12, 2022, 08:46:22 AM by hunter399 »
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2022, 09:29:26 AM »
There has been a little more critical thinking lately and I would not say all is lost. I think it is still an uphill battle but it's definitely worth placing well articulated comments in front of the entire commission.

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2022, 10:07:01 AM »
@hunter399
With out a doubt we hunters are in a bad spot. Emails are just 1 form of showing support. Its not even the the length, persuasion or whatever its the numbers. For a long time the WDFW and other have said hunters dont show up. to meeting or write letters. Howl has taken that off the table for the antis, we still need to do it but we can stop at emails, or political enemies don't. We need to belong to hunter ADVOCACY groups like SCI and Washingtonians for wildlife. We need to give money to the Hunters Heritage Council to lobby legislators. We need to make sure some one from our sportsmen club, possibly ANY reader of this, is sending letters to the commissioner or elsewhere representing said club. That has a larger effect than 1 person especially when done repeatedly.  Lastly we need to do a better job educating the public about hunting. Tell our non hunting friends about the need for management and who our friends are in the legislature, and who are not. Most think this is a daunting task, and trying to do it all is. so just take one small slice. If you have been doing it representing yourself, find a way to do it as a representative for your sportsmen club. You have a bigger impact with the same amount of info. If you remember some important information search out the documentation, post it here so others can use it to futher the cause.

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2022, 12:01:53 PM »
A lot of the uneducated people on the fence about hunting issues get their info from the mostly biased main stream media. If we can somehow take that down a notch we could get more support.
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2022, 02:01:09 PM »
A lot of the uneducated people on the fence about hunting issues get their info from the mostly biased main stream media. If we can somehow take that down a notch we could get more support.

It's more about the ad campaigns by orgs like HSUS and DOW, which completely distort the truth so the general public will think that spring bear is about killing female bears with cubs. When they won the ban on hounds and baiting, they showed dogs tearing small bears apart and bait hunters shooting small bears over oil drums. It's inhumane, you see. and that's what the HSUS commercials tell them.
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2022, 02:09:33 PM »
WDFW just removed a bear in Spokane and here's the reason they didn't relocate it.

https://www.kxly.com/why-wildlife-officials-killed-the-bear-roaming-spokane-county-instead-of-capturing-it/

SPOKANE VALLEY, Wash. — After Fish and Wildlife officers killed an elusive bear that was roaming the Northwood neighborhood north of Spokane Valley, many are wondering why they didn’t capture it instead.

To put it short, it was mainly because of the behavior of the bear, and it was getting too comfortable around humans.


The bear had been eating people’s chickens and showed up on front and back porches, which is not typical bear behavior.

After bears know about a non-natural food source or are fed by humans, they usually keep coming back for more. After a while, these bears lose their fear of people, which can put humans at risk.

After bears get used to these non-natural food sources, relocation is less successful because the bear has become accustomed to the previous environment.


In the case of the Northwood bear, it had already established itself in the neighborhood, meaning killing the bear was the most viable option for the safety of the public.

The decision to kill a bear is made through coordination between Fish and Wildlife biologists, wildlife conflict specialists, law enforcement, and other experts.


Remember, do not leave out any food sources that could attract bears. Feeding bears, whether it be voluntarily or involuntarily, is illegal in Washington.

READ: Washington Fish and Wildlife Officers kill black bear that had been roaming Northwood neighborhood

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2022, 10:31:42 AM »
Keep up the noise. The antis wont stop, we must follow suit. A simple email of support is all thats needed.

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2022, 02:06:04 PM »
I sent my comment. Bump to the top.
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2022, 02:07:31 PM »
Done sent in my comments.  Hope they get read out loud to the game commission.

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2022, 02:34:27 PM »
Comment sent in support. 

I also contacted Howl.org to ask if they'd bring it back up as a current petition.  If too late to howl for the 18th, I asked them to keep this issue on the forefront so we as hunters, other sportspeople, and the general public know this is a fight that's not going away.

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2022, 07:03:07 PM »
I haven't seen anything about this from Howl.org who have been a strong proponent of us getting our Spring Bear season back and great way to get the word out. I've fwded all this info to their IG page but if anyone has any other contact info for them, they would be a big help for making sure a lot of pro-hunting comments are made.

I messaged them directly on the website "contact us" section (little mail symbol on RH side).  Super responsive as they got back to me this evening saying it was in work and have since posted it.

Link: https://www.howlforwildlife.org/waspringbear-nov2022
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2022, 10:00:04 AM »
Comment sent, please comment today!

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2022, 10:07:59 AM »
I haven't seen anything about this from Howl.org who have been a strong proponent of us getting our Spring Bear season back and great way to get the word out. I've fwded all this info to their IG page but if anyone has any other contact info for them, they would be a big help for making sure a lot of pro-hunting comments are made.

I messaged them directly on the website "contact us" section (little mail symbol on RH side).  Super responsive as they got back to me this evening saying it was in work and have since posted it.

Link: https://www.howlforwildlife.org/waspringbear-nov2022

Awesome! I've been seeing a lot going out from them now on this topic. From an informational Email put out by Howl this morning:

"HOWL works when you work, it's as simple as that.  WDFW has received 2518 total emails (for or against) as of this morning at 850am.  1712 of those emails you sent through HOWL!  That shows how powerful the pack really is so let's get past 2000 by the 5pm deadline today!"


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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting 11/18 for Spring Bear Policy
« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2022, 10:24:03 AM »
It's quite frustrating. Every aspect of this state is becoming more radical by the day. Hunting, 2nd Amendment, elections, are all being affected. And the zombies living in King, Pierce, and Thurston counties are thrilled with it. I don't get it. :bash:
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