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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #135 on: March 14, 2023, 02:50:41 PM »
If a bill is Unconstitutional it is illegal and those who brought it up, sideshow Bob, and voted on it, legislators, that would be a crime punishable by prison and fines.

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Would be?  or Should be?
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #136 on: March 14, 2023, 04:42:11 PM »
If anyone is looking for some hope instead of doom and gloom, this fella (who claims to have spent 4 years as chief staffer to a WA senate committee chair) does not believe it will pass the Senate based on the published committee schedule.

"Full week of Law and Justice Committee meetings scheduled yet no hearing for 1240. Committee agenda is published through the 16th - itís not scheduled. And they need a couple days notice to schedule a hearing. So itíll be the 20th at the absolute soonest and I doubt that bc I think theyíll let it die here. even if it passed Law & Justice itís got Ways and Means (another hearing required) and Rules Committee then a floor vote. Thereís no time, and you can tell they arenít planning on moving it because if they were theyíd have greased the committee schedule already as thereís no time to waste."

"itís five days notice required for a public hearing and theyíre scheduled through the 16th. and thereís two more committees after this one before the floor. The senate moves slower anyway. Youíd know if they planned to run this bill. Theyíd be running it. The priorities are the ones that got scheduled already and had companion bills. this isnít some mystical tarot card reading itís calling balls and strikes."


https://www.reddit.com/r/WAGuns/comments/11qzkem/1240_not_gonna_pass/
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #137 on: March 14, 2023, 04:57:08 PM »
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #138 on: March 15, 2023, 06:23:46 AM »
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2023, 01:38:36 PM »
There is a hearing in the state senate law and Justice committee on HB 1240 and HB 1143 at 8:00 am on March 23rd.
The democrats are ramming these unconstitutional laws through.
You guys that vote for democrats should pull your heads out of where they are now.
You can reach out to the committee and let them know how you feel.

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #140 on: March 17, 2023, 03:27:49 PM »
In contrast, this guy on reddit still thinks it doesn't have time to get through all committees and a floor vote this session. Rather, they're getting the committee work out of the way to pass next year since WA works on a "biennium" system.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WAGuns/comments/11sh3sr/hb_1240_finally_scheduled_how_to_testify/

I like Kirk's videos but his prediction model on these things is basically, "they'll pass it on the Friday before a holiday weekend". The reddit guy's analysis seems a bit more...thorough.

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #141 on: March 17, 2023, 05:20:06 PM »
In contrast, this guy on reddit still thinks it doesn't have time to get through all committees and a floor vote this session. Rather, they're getting the committee work out of the way to pass next year since WA works on a "biennium" system.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WAGuns/comments/11sh3sr/hb_1240_finally_scheduled_how_to_testify/

I like Kirk's videos but his prediction model on these things is basically, "they'll pass it on the Friday before a holiday weekend". The reddit guy's analysis seems a bit more...thorough.
There have been some changes to the house and senate leadership since your Reddit guy was working in the legislature.  I agree with Kirk that they will ram this through. We will see.
We all have a opportunity to contact the committee members and our state senators before this hearing.

https://leg.wa.gov/Senate/Committees/LAW/Pages/MembersStaff.aspx
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #142 on: March 17, 2023, 05:31:07 PM »
First public hearing on this is the 23rd
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #143 on: March 18, 2023, 11:13:48 AM »
comment on 1143:
"Gun violence in this state has continued to rise even as you pass gun control bill after gun control bill. Why? Because criminals don't care about laws. That's the definition of a criminal. Law abiding citizens shouldn't be burdened when attempting to purchase a firearm by needing a permit. We already have a concealed carry permit. We already have laws which penalize people for firearm incidents which hurt other people. It is already the responsibility of the individual gun owner to ensure his/her safe handling and storage of firearms. The overwhelming majority of gun crimes committed in WA are committed by criminals. Accidental death by firearms is extraordinarily rare in WA. It's not even close.

Article I, Section 24 of the Washington State Constitution states: ď[t]he right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men." What's missing is that the State of WA has the right to require a permit to do so. It doesn't have that right. The Second Amendment to our beloved U.S. Constitution says: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." What's missing is the right of our government to require permits. Our government has no such right. It has no such right because the government issuing permits for us to be able to exercise our gun rights defeats the reason for our gun rights. The Founders realized that this is an essential right designed to protect us from violence and a tyrannical, oppressive government.

You want to make WA residents safer? Fix legislation which favors criminals and prevents police from doing their job. Legislate stiff, mandatory penalties and sentences for crimes committed with firearms, and other violent crimes. Tell Dan Satterberg, the prosecuting attorney for King County, to stop releasing violent criminals with little or no bail, and prosecute them to the full extent of the law. Tell AG Ferguson to imprison people who attempt to purchase firearms when they're precluded from doing so. Over 90% of these people are never charged. The idea that restricting the rights of our citizens will make us safer has already been proven wrong many, many times. It is your job to reduce crime through legislation which punishes criminals. It is not your job to reduce our rights"
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #144 on: March 18, 2023, 12:12:32 PM »
comment on 1143:
"Gun violence in this state has continued to rise even as you pass gun control bill after gun control bill. Why? Because criminals don't care about laws. That's the definition of a criminal. Law abiding citizens shouldn't be burdened when attempting to purchase a firearm by needing a permit. We already have a concealed carry permit. We already have laws which penalize people for firearm incidents which hurt other people. It is already the responsibility of the individual gun owner to ensure his/her safe handling and storage of firearms. The overwhelming majority of gun crimes committed in WA are committed by criminals. Accidental death by firearms is extraordinarily rare in WA. It's not even close.

Article I, Section 24 of the Washington State Constitution states: ď[t]he right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men." What's missing is that the State of WA has the right to require a permit to do so. It doesn't have that right. The Second Amendment to our beloved U.S. Constitution says: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." What's missing is the right of our government to require permits. Our government has no such right. It has no such right because the government issuing permits for us to be able to exercise our gun rights defeats the reason for our gun rights. The Founders realized that this is an essential right designed to protect us from violence and a tyrannical, oppressive government.

You want to make WA residents safer? Fix legislation which favors criminals and prevents police from doing their job. Legislate stiff, mandatory penalties and sentences for crimes committed with firearms, and other violent crimes. Tell Dan Satterberg, the prosecuting attorney for King County, to stop releasing violent criminals with little or no bail, and prosecute them to the full extent of the law. Tell AG Ferguson to imprison people who attempt to purchase firearms when they're precluded from doing so. Over 90% of these people are never charged. The idea that restricting the rights of our citizens will make us safer has already been proven wrong many, many times. It is your job to reduce crime through legislation which punishes criminals. It is not your job to reduce our rights"

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #145 on: March 18, 2023, 02:01:03 PM »
The 2nd amendment is not a 2nd class amendment. It enjoys the same protections as other amendments. Would the state require a permit to exercise your 1st amendment rights? Will we need a permit to practice freedom of speech or freedom of religion?

Sadly, I believe the Democrats in power im this state would be in favor of these things as well.

https://mynorthwest.com/3843618/rantz-ag-ferguson-conservative-views-terrifying-extremism-commission/

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #146 on: March 18, 2023, 04:19:49 PM »
comment on 1143:
"Gun violence in this state has continued to rise even as you pass gun control bill after gun control bill. Why? Because criminals don't care about laws. That's the definition of a criminal. Law abiding citizens shouldn't be burdened when attempting to purchase a firearm by needing a permit. We already have a concealed carry permit. We already have laws which penalize people for firearm incidents which hurt other people. It is already the responsibility of the individual gun owner to ensure his/her safe handling and storage of firearms. The overwhelming majority of gun crimes committed in WA are committed by criminals. Accidental death by firearms is extraordinarily rare in WA. It's not even close.

Article I, Section 24 of the Washington State Constitution states: ď[t]he right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men." What's missing is that the State of WA has the right to require a permit to do so. It doesn't have that right. The Second Amendment to our beloved U.S. Constitution says: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." What's missing is the right of our government to require permits. Our government has no such right. It has no such right because the government issuing permits for us to be able to exercise our gun rights defeats the reason for our gun rights. The Founders realized that this is an essential right designed to protect us from violence and a tyrannical, oppressive government.

You want to make WA residents safer? Fix legislation which favors criminals and prevents police from doing their job. Legislate stiff, mandatory penalties and sentences for crimes committed with firearms, and other violent crimes. Tell Dan Satterberg, the prosecuting attorney for King County, to stop releasing violent criminals with little or no bail, and prosecute them to the full extent of the law. Tell AG Ferguson to imprison people who attempt to purchase firearms when they're precluded from doing so. Over 90% of these people are never charged. The idea that restricting the rights of our citizens will make us safer has already been proven wrong many, many times. It is your job to reduce crime through legislation which punishes criminals. It is not your job to reduce our rights"


woah now. you be careful with those thoughts that make sense.

seriously though, a republican introduced a bill for harsher punishment on criminals that committed a crime with a stolen gun. guess. how far that got.  I don't remember who said it, but democrats live by the creed "do something, even if it does nothing".

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #147 on: March 18, 2023, 04:34:40 PM »
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Re: HB 1240 &quot;Assault Weapons Ban&quot; Passes House
« Reply #148 on: March 19, 2023, 05:00:50 AM »
You want to make WA residents safer? Fix legislation which favors criminals and prevents police from doing their job. Legislate stiff, mandatory penalties and sentences for crimes committed with firearms, and other violent crimes. Tell Dan Satterberg, the prosecuting attorney for King County, to stop releasing violent criminals with little or no bail, and prosecute them to the full extent of the law.
Dan Satterberg is no longer in office.

This is where doing research before firing off comments to legislators is important. (not directed specifically at you Pman, just using it as an example.)

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #149 on: March 19, 2023, 06:44:25 AM »
The 2nd amendment is not a 2nd class amendment. It enjoys the same protections as other amendments. Would the state require a permit to exercise your 1st amendment rights? Will we need a permit to practice freedom of speech or freedom of religion?

Sadly, I believe the Democrats in power im this state would be in favor of these things as well.

https://mynorthwest.com/3843618/rantz-ag-ferguson-conservative-views-terrifying-extremism-commission/

The new Globalist Democratic Nazi Party. Let's all salute Adolf Ferguson.

This doesn't bother liberals because they all are closet fascist  who believe what they are told regardless of the facts on the ground.

Higher education is in fact a higher level of brainwashing.

Funny how after WW2 nobody who voted for Hitler admitted it. I expect the same here.
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