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Here is a Car and Driver article that supports the EV “heater” not being an issue.https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38807463/tesla-model-3-climate-control-cold-weather-test/
Quote from: LDennis24 on October 05, 2023, 08:21:38 PMYeah, can any of the folks who support the EV nonsense explain to me how the battery survives in temperatures above 85 degrees? I would like you to post actual studies or evidence of something showing that its going to work. Because lithium ion and lithium iron batteries are meant to stay below 85 degrees during operation if I recall correctly. Kind of confusing that they would push in that direction with summers getting hotter every year due to Al Gore causing global warming... Not to promote nonsense, but here are my observations from my actual study of operating one, for what they are worth. Non-scientific study:Finding a working charger is not easy. I wouldn’t bet on getting home on by finding a recharge.Batteries work great at 85 degrees. They get much hotter under high amp draw. I actually get better range and performance when its hot out. Performance drops when its cold. I notice a distinct drop in hp and range when it’s below 40 degrees or so. Performance drops as the battery level drops. But range increases. I get more range on the 2nd half of a charge than I get on the top half, but the 0 to 30mph time isn’t as impressive. It does not degrade the battery to give them a partial charge. They are supposed to last longer when the charge is kept between 20% and 80%. And the last 20% of the charge takes the most time. I haven’t noticed any change in performance or range after 2 years of operation. Water crossings are scary. What’s the point of your questions? Thinking of buying one?
Yeah, can any of the folks who support the EV nonsense explain to me how the battery survives in temperatures above 85 degrees? I would like you to post actual studies or evidence of something showing that its going to work. Because lithium ion and lithium iron batteries are meant to stay below 85 degrees during operation if I recall correctly. Kind of confusing that they would push in that direction with summers getting hotter every year due to Al Gore causing global warming...
Quote from: CP on October 06, 2023, 07:08:41 AMQuote from: LDennis24 on October 05, 2023, 08:21:38 PMYeah, can any of the folks who support the EV nonsense explain to me how the battery survives in temperatures above 85 degrees? I would like you to post actual studies or evidence of something showing that its going to work. Because lithium ion and lithium iron batteries are meant to stay below 85 degrees during operation if I recall correctly. Kind of confusing that they would push in that direction with summers getting hotter every year due to Al Gore causing global warming... Not to promote nonsense, but here are my observations from my actual study of operating one, for what they are worth. Non-scientific study:Finding a working charger is not easy. I wouldn’t bet on getting home on by finding a recharge.Batteries work great at 85 degrees. They get much hotter under high amp draw. I actually get better range and performance when its hot out. Performance drops when its cold. I notice a distinct drop in hp and range when it’s below 40 degrees or so. Performance drops as the battery level drops. But range increases. I get more range on the 2nd half of a charge than I get on the top half, but the 0 to 30mph time isn’t as impressive. It does not degrade the battery to give them a partial charge. They are supposed to last longer when the charge is kept between 20% and 80%. And the last 20% of the charge takes the most time. I haven’t noticed any change in performance or range after 2 years of operation. Water crossings are scary. What’s the point of your questions? Thinking of buying one?No that's just all of the hearsay I get about them. I know a few people who have them. I have read about some of the points I brought up also. Like battery life degrading from certain conditions and heat being a problem for lithium batteries is fairly common knowledge. They do degrade quicker when above 85 degrees. But lithium batteries can operate up to 140 degrees. And down to -40 according to Google. I just d I nt know that enough evidence is out there to show they will not cost you $20,000 every 6-10 yrs.
The only thing polarizing about this topic is a totalitarian, now communist government trying to take away your freedom to choose. Buy what you want but when they try to force you that's where I, and tens of millions draw the line. They have an agenda and have shown the past few years their intentions are evil. There is no such thing as zero foot print and the forced child labor to mine the lithium in other countries is documented and we'll known but they don't want you to know about that as long as you're forced to buy what the lawmakers have invested in to enrich themselves.I guess ignorance really is blissSent from my SM-G977U using Tapatalk
Quote from: grizzlyadams on October 05, 2023, 12:25:59 PMThe only thing polarizing about this topic is a totalitarian, now communist government trying to take away your freedom to choose. Buy what you want but when they try to force you that's where I, and tens of millions draw the line. They have an agenda and have shown the past few years their intentions are evil. There is no such thing as zero foot print and the forced child labor to mine the lithium in other countries is documented and we'll known but they don't want you to know about that as long as you're forced to buy what the lawmakers have invested in to enrich themselves.I guess ignorance really is blissSent from my SM-G977U using TapatalkSpot on ! That is my only issue with electric, the political nature it has taken on, not actual science and morality/ethics used to promote what it is good for. There is zero foot print, but it takes me, you and the vast majority of the world to be six feet under, then the oligarchal overlords can have it all to themselves
I am Disapoint. (there is a joke in there) I have always been a Ford Fan. But No More. Seems most, if not all, corporate CEO's need to be Fired for their Extremely Poor Performance. RT 10:40
Seems like the CT can do everything except be delivered. I'm picking up a Model Y tomorrow, should look great parked next to the F-150. I'll be able to irritate 90% of the population with that combo.
That car is unbelievable and the whole Tesla universe is equally impressive, unlike anything the legacy manufacturers can come close to matching. It reminded me of my first smartphone, it's like a whole different thing. I would be surprised if we ever buy a gas car or even an electric from anyone else until they get up to speed with where Tesla is. Still need the gas truck for obvious reasons, but it won't be driven nearly as much.Kind of surprising as I thought the Tesla fanboy club was pretty obnoxious, now I'm a very reluctant member.
