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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #120 on: November 02, 2023, 10:00:30 PM »
Anybody ask themselves why government police and emergency vehicles have not gone electric yet? :rolleyes:
Availability and cost? The 2024 Blazer EV with pursuit package is the first manufacturer built to patrol spec model to hit the market so far. Several agencies have Teslas on the road, but those are field modified units.
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #121 on: November 26, 2023, 10:54:09 AM »
I know not everyone has Tiktok but this guy quickly throws out numbers on realistic demands of having electric trucks on the road delivering commodities etc.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRvxDeKq/

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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #122 on: December 01, 2023, 02:49:00 PM »
https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck

Cybertruck prices and specs have been released. 3 different models at $60k, $80k and $100k

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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #123 on: December 01, 2023, 03:59:56 PM »
Don't look much like a truck to me. Where do I stack a load of wood?
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #124 on: December 01, 2023, 07:00:31 PM »
Don't look much like a truck to me. Where do I stack a load of wood?

It has a bed!

But daaaaaaamn! It is ugly!
Looks like something my kid would have drawn with crayons.
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #125 on: December 01, 2023, 10:26:04 PM »
Don't look much like a truck to me. Where do I stack a load of wood?

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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #126 on: December 02, 2023, 12:22:05 AM »
Still don't see much room for firewood. Probably plenty of room for your Nordstrom purchases though.
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Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #127 on: December 02, 2023, 07:33:55 AM »
Still don't see much room for firewood. Probably plenty of room for your Nordstrom purchases though.

How many people who are going to buy a Cybertruck do you think are concerned with its ability to haul a load of firewood? How much firewood can you haul in an F150 with a 5.5í bed? How many of those have been sold worldwide over the lastÖ I think 20 years theyíve existed?
Iím not a proponent of the cyber truck. Itís kind of ridiculous and Iíll be shocked if itís a success,  but people arenít going to buy it for its ability to haul firewood.

For the record though, itís got a 6í long bed thatís 4í wide, 67 cubic feet of volume and has a 2500 pound payload, so itíll haul the same load of firewood that most of your full sized half ton trucks will. The 6.5í bed on an F150 has 62.3 cubic feet of volume for comparison.
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #128 on: December 05, 2023, 10:12:02 AM »
I didnt want to start a new thread but this is one I haven't heard of before. Parking garages in New York may not be able to handle the weight of EV's.

I was watching one of the latest South Main Auto videos and Eric said his brother took him into the city for a fancy dinner. They had to go to 4 parking garages before they found one that could fit their 2500 pickup. But he also mentioned that they wouldn't accept EV's. Curious on that i did an internet search and read about a parking garage that fell under too much weight, and thus the reason....I am guessing...is why some parking garages will not accept the heavier EV's. Interesting.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/electric-vehicles-could-put-pressure-on-parking-garages/

"...Chris Whapples, a structural engineer and consultant working on new regulations for multi-story garages in the UK, said officials need to understand how the rise in EVs will affect current car parks.

ďI donít want to be too alarmist, but there definitely is the potential for some of the early car parks in poor condition to collapse,Ē Whapples told The Telegraph.

ďOperators need to be aware of electric vehicle weights, and get their car parks assessed from a strength point of view, and decide if they need to limit weight.Ē

The warning came less than two weeks before Tuesdayís deadly collapse at the NYC parking garage, which reportedly had active violations dating back to 2003..."

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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #129 on: December 05, 2023, 11:49:37 AM »
I don't imagine Inslee would do this with our ferries...

https://ctif.org/news/norwegian-shipping-company-bans-electric-cars-board-classic-ferry-route

The Norwegian shipping company Havila Kystruten will no longer allow electric cars on board its ships, according to Norwegian Television NRK. The consequences of an electric car fire are considered too severe, states the company.
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"Toxic gases are released"
After just over a year in scheduled traffic, the shipping company Havilia is now making changes to its regulations. Going forward,  electric cars, hybrid cars and also hydrogen cars will not be allowed on board.

Risk analysis found lithium batteries too risky onboard

The decision was made after an external risk analysis was made on behalf of the company. What the risk analysis found was that fires in electric cars are considered more difficult to extinguish than fires in cars powered by petrol and diesel.

"An electric car fire gets very hot, and there may be a risk of explosion where toxic gases will be released. This can mean that you have to evacuate the ship immediately and in the worst case you can have a total breakdown of the ship, says Lasse A. Vangstein who is in charge of communications at Havila Kystruten to NRK.
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #130 on: December 05, 2023, 12:18:11 PM »
I don't imagine Inslee would do this with our ferries...

https://ctif.org/news/norwegian-shipping-company-bans-electric-cars-board-classic-ferry-route

The Norwegian shipping company Havila Kystruten will no longer allow electric cars on board its ships, according to Norwegian Television NRK. The consequences of an electric car fire are considered too severe, states the company.
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"Toxic gases are released"
After just over a year in scheduled traffic, the shipping company Havilia is now making changes to its regulations. Going forward,  electric cars, hybrid cars and also hydrogen cars will not be allowed on board.

Risk analysis found lithium batteries too risky onboard

The decision was made after an external risk analysis was made on behalf of the company. What the risk analysis found was that fires in electric cars are considered more difficult to extinguish than fires in cars powered by petrol and diesel.

"An electric car fire gets very hot, and there may be a risk of explosion where toxic gases will be released. This can mean that you have to evacuate the ship immediately and in the worst case you can have a total breakdown of the ship, says Lasse A. Vangstein who is in charge of communications at Havila Kystruten to NRK.
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #131 on: December 05, 2023, 09:56:46 PM »


Joe Rogan shoots arrow at Elonís cyber truck.
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #132 on: December 06, 2023, 01:05:15 AM »
I often worry about taking an arrow through the door when I am out cutting wood. :archery_smiley:
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #133 on: December 06, 2023, 08:51:19 AM »
The big problem is we look at it in terms of isolation.  It's not EV or not, it's EV or oil for the base form of energy for transportation.  So to talk about lithium mining without a similar discussion and comparison to the human rights of entire countries, say Saudi Arabia, say Iran, say Russia is not intellectually honest.

There are people pushing EV for the money.  There have been people pushing oil for money for over 200 years.  Nothing changes in business and politics.

What source of energy would most benefit our country?  I don't think you can argue for oil.  It's a global commodity price controlled by people that hate us.  Technology, efficiency, performance, whatever doesn't even matter, you can't ultimately win in that system with those rules.

Once we are honest about this, it's more of a question of how to make the transition happen and there is plenty of space there to argue.

Well said.


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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #134 on: December 06, 2023, 09:19:36 AM »
I often worry about taking an arrow through the door when I am out cutting wood. :archery_smiley:

Well itís the perfect truck for you Humptulips.👍
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