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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #135 on: December 01, 2023, 05:53:05 PM »
The system is ok but I would suspend in-person sales on 12/1 only. Everyone needs to go through the online waiting room that day. That would eliminate the in-person advantage over others attempting to buy tags.

So you’re saying the people who took the extra effort and took time off and drove over shouldn’t be aloud to buy because  why? Early bird gets the worm bud make the extra effort

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #136 on: December 01, 2023, 06:00:37 PM »
The system is ok but I would suspend in-person sales on 12/1 only. Everyone needs to go through the online waiting room that day. That would eliminate the in-person advantage over others attempting to buy tags.

So you’re saying the people who took the extra effort and took time off and drove over shouldn’t be aloud to buy because  why? Early bird gets the worm bud make the extra effort

Especially when online placement is completely random. I logged in over 2 hours waiting in the room and got 40193. I know husbands and wives that logged in at 9am and got 7000 and 14000.  Luckily I had arrangements in place or I'd be sol

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #137 on: December 01, 2023, 06:02:16 PM »
I'm fine with the in person loophole. But they should only be able to buy tags for themselves.

Guys online can't group app, but you can send one buddy to buy 10 tags in person? That's BS.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #138 on: December 01, 2023, 06:07:01 PM »
There where lines at places that have never had lines before...like way off the beaten path places...
And people camping overnight by the hundreds.
Next year I guess you'll have to get in line two days early... :o

And ya.
Limit in person tags to just the purchaser...lots of locals buying tags for out of state friends...


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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #139 on: December 01, 2023, 06:15:00 PM »
The system is ok but I would suspend in-person sales on 12/1 only. Everyone needs to go through the online waiting room that day. That would eliminate the in-person advantage over others attempting to buy tags.

That would pull the sales money and business from the local vendors and push it all to the online vendor. I’m sure the shops sell some goods as well to folks who come in to purchase.
I paid a $30 convenience fee today online.


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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #140 on: December 01, 2023, 06:18:59 PM »
I'm fine with the in person loophole. But they should only be able to buy tags for themselves.

Guys online can't group app, but you can send one buddy to buy 10 tags in person? That's BS.

It’s not a loophole it’s the system most people who do that don’t want there hunt camps broke up hence the extra effort

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #141 on: December 01, 2023, 06:46:37 PM »
The system is ok but I would suspend in-person sales on 12/1 only. Everyone needs to go through the online waiting room that day. That would eliminate the in-person advantage over others attempting to buy tags.

That would pull the sales money and business from the local vendors and push it all to the online vendor. I’m sure the shops sell some goods as well to folks who come in to purchase.
I paid a $30 convenience fee today online.

Heck I say make it in person only for the first few hours then open it up to online. How many people bought a tag online today that they either don’t know the territory or will end up returning it?  I bet far more than those who drove to Idaho and bought their tags.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #142 on: December 01, 2023, 06:54:56 PM »
I'm fine with the in person loophole. But they should only be able to buy tags for themselves.

Guys online can't group app, but you can send one buddy to buy 10 tags in person? That's BS.

 :yeah: You should only be allowed to buy your tag(s) in person.
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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #143 on: December 01, 2023, 06:59:07 PM »
There is a ton of fraud in this and money laundering too. Cash is being exchanged and guys are getting some of the first dibs well before the tags even go on sale Dec 1st. They aren’t present for the draw and they don’t have a buddy in a line either, just so you know. There are hundreds if not thousands of tags sold today where transactions were done weeks ago.  It’s hard to imagine if you are an honest man but it is happening.  This is the absolute worst system, it has been hacked and it is ugly for the honest guy.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #144 on: December 01, 2023, 07:04:43 PM »
For anyone crying the blues claiming they didn’t get a tag, you can still hire an outfitter and hunt any unit in Idaho. I know it’s not American to support a small business that caters to what we like but it is an alternative to complaining about the system.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #145 on: December 01, 2023, 07:04:56 PM »
I'm fine with the in person loophole. But they should only be able to buy tags for themselves.

Guys online can't group app, but you can send one buddy to buy 10 tags in person? That's BS.

It’s not a loophole it’s the system most people who do that don’t want there hunt camps broke up hence the extra effort

That is ridiculous if you really consider this "extra" effort. That mentality is what will ultimately lead to Idaho just going to away from an OTC system altogether. Sending one guy to buy multiple people's licenses should not be allowed period unless it is for direct family member i.e. brother, kid, wife.
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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #146 on: December 01, 2023, 07:08:14 PM »
The system is ok but I would suspend in-person sales on 12/1 only. Everyone needs to go through the online waiting room that day. That would eliminate the in-person advantage over others attempting to buy tags.

That would pull the sales money and business from the local vendors and push it all to the online vendor. I’m sure the shops sell some goods as well to folks who come in to purchase.
I paid a $30 convenience fee today online.

That's a credit card fee, which I'm fairly certain you still pay in person when using your credit or debit ccard.
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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #147 on: December 01, 2023, 07:10:20 PM »
I'm fine with the in person loophole. But they should only be able to buy tags for themselves.

Guys online can't group app, but you can send one buddy to buy 10 tags in person? That's BS.

It’s not a loophole it’s the system most people who do that don’t want *their*hunt camps broke up hence the extra effort

"A loophole is an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the purpose, implied or explicitly stated, of the system."

It's a loophole. If you want to keep the group together, go buy your tags as a group.


I'm fine with the in person loophole. But they should only be able to buy tags for themselves.

Guys online can't group app, but you can send one buddy to buy 10 tags in person? That's BS.

It’s not a loophole it’s the system most people who do that don’t want there hunt camps broke up hence the extra effort

That is ridiculous if you really consider this "extra" effort. That mentality is what will ultimately lead to Idaho just going to away from an OTC system altogether. Sending one guy to buy multiple people's licenses should not be allowed period unless it is for direct family member i.e. brother, kid, wife.
:yeah:

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #148 on: December 01, 2023, 07:14:51 PM »
I'm fine with the in person loophole. But they should only be able to buy tags for themselves.

Guys online can't group app, but you can send one buddy to buy 10 tags in person? That's BS.

It’s not a loophole it’s the system most people who do that don’t want *their*hunt camps broke up hence the extra effort

"A loophole is an ambiguity or inadequacy in a system which can be used to circumvent or otherwise avoid the purpose, implied or explicitly stated, of the system."

It's a loophole. If you want to keep the group together, go buy your tags as a group.


I'm fine with the in person loophole. But they should only be able to buy tags for themselves.

Guys online can't group app, but you can send one buddy to buy 10 tags in person? That's BS.

It’s not a loophole it’s the system most people who do that don’t want there hunt camps broke up hence the extra effort

That is ridiculous if you really consider this "extra" effort. That mentality is what will ultimately lead to Idaho just going to away from an OTC system altogether. Sending one guy to buy multiple people's licenses should not be allowed period unless it is for direct family member i.e. brother, kid, wife.
:yeah:

It’s called “over the counter” not “over the internet”. Tags were sold in person only for a 100 years before the internet circumvented the process of buying tags.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #149 on: December 01, 2023, 07:22:43 PM »
It’s called “over the counter” not “over the internet”. Tags were sold in person only for a 100 years before the internet circumvented the process of buying tags.

I have no problem with in-person sales not being subject to the online queue.

 


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