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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #150 on: December 01, 2023, 07:23:56 PM »
ďMulesĒ, in person, or over the internet is not the worst of it fellas. There is something bigger here, fraud in my opinion and, it seems, money laundering.  There is a reason why the best tags sell so quick and then everything goes slower after that.  The system is gamed big time and there are people making big money off of it, off of usÖ.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #151 on: December 01, 2023, 07:25:37 PM »
You will once you know how the game has been played.

Itís called ďover the counterĒ not ďover the internetĒ. Tags were sold in person only for a 100 years before the internet circumvented the process of buying tags.

I have no problem with in-person sales not being subject to the online queue.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #152 on: December 01, 2023, 07:28:48 PM »
ďMulesĒ, in person, or over the internet is not the worst of it fellas. There is something bigger here, fraud in my opinion and, it seems, money laundering.  There is a reason why the best tags sell so quick and then everything goes slower after that.  The system is gamed big time and there are people making big money off of it, off of usÖ.
Do you have some proof of this, or?

Not that I donít love a good conspiracy theory. Iím just wondering if thereís anything behind the theory.

I mean it makes 100% sense that it would slow down after the best tags go. For instance, my party had a top four elk zones and once they were gone we didnít pursue other tags. Iím sure lots of people do that, which would explain that.

Not to mention some of the first ones that sold out only had a handful of tags available.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #153 on: December 01, 2023, 07:31:03 PM »
If you stopped internet sales there would still be tags available when you drove over in October to go hunting just like there used to be.

Itís all the social media hype that has turned Idaho into a joke. Along with the residents complaining there were too many hunters which led to them eliminating statewide deer tags.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #154 on: December 01, 2023, 07:41:51 PM »
If you stopped internet sales there would still be tags available when you drove over in October to go hunting just like there used to be.

Itís all the social media hype that has turned Idaho into a joke. Along with the residents complaining there were too many hunters which led to them eliminating statewide deer tags.

Iím a fan of choosing units to hunt. It needs to be regulated.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #155 on: December 01, 2023, 07:42:50 PM »
ďMulesĒ, in person, or over the internet is not the worst of it fellas. There is something bigger here, fraud in my opinion and, it seems, money laundering.  There is a reason why the best tags sell so quick and then everything goes slower after that.  The system is gamed big time and there are people making big money off of it, off of usÖ.
Do you have some proof of this, or?

Not that I donít love a good conspiracy theory. Iím just wondering if thereís anything behind the theory.

I mean it makes 100% sense that it would slow down after the best tags go. For instance, my party had a top four elk zones and once they were gone we didnít pursue other tags. Iím sure lots of people do that, which would explain that.

Not to mention some of the first ones that sold out only had a handful of tags available.

My buddy was 8th in line. The guys that were 5 and 6 both left because the tags they were there for sold out just before they got to the counter. Of course the popular stuff sells first and then it slows down. I would expect it to.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #156 on: December 01, 2023, 07:44:43 PM »
It will be abundantly clear just how that can happen. 

My buddy was 8th in line. The guys that were 5 and 6 both left because the tags they were there for sold out just before they got to the counter. Of course the popular stuff sells first and then it slows down. I would expect it to.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #157 on: December 01, 2023, 07:45:52 PM »
It will be abundantly clear just how that can happen. 

My buddy was 8th in line. The guys that were 5 and 6 both left because the tags they were there for sold out just before they got to the counter. Of course the popular stuff sells first and then it slows down. I would expect it to.
When will it be clear?! Donít hold us in suspense!

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #158 on: December 01, 2023, 07:46:36 PM »
If you stopped internet sales there would still be tags available when you drove over in October to go hunting just like there used to be.

Itís all the social media hype that has turned Idaho into a joke. Along with the residents complaining there were too many hunters which led to them eliminating statewide deer tags.

Iím a fan of choosing units to hunt. It needs to be regulated.

I would support the quotas if they aligned them with the elk units and changed the way the set the quota. It should be based either on the amount of public land or the deer population. Not 10% of the amount of residents who claimed they hunted that unit. This just leads to additional crowding in the most hunted units.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #159 on: December 01, 2023, 07:49:07 PM »
If you stopped internet sales there would still be tags available when you drove over in October to go hunting just like there used to be.

Itís all the social media hype that has turned Idaho into a joke. Along with the residents complaining there were too many hunters which led to them eliminating statewide deer tags.

Iím a fan of choosing units to hunt. It needs to be regulated.

I would support the quotas if they aligned them with the elk units and changed the way the set the quota. It should be based either on the amount of public land or the deer population. Not 10% of the amount of residents who claimed they hunted that unit. This just leads to additional crowding in the most hunted units.

Ya it should be scientific for sure! I didnít realize it wasnít. Idaho disappoints me more and more

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #160 on: December 01, 2023, 07:50:56 PM »
1) Must log in to account to get in virtual waiting room. Eliminates multiple devices

2) Each hunter must be present for in-person purchases

3) Ability to get in virtual waiting room as a pair or group





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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #161 on: December 01, 2023, 07:59:03 PM »
The needed info has been forwarded to the proper individuals.  The system is absolutely terrible and rife with fraud and there are people making a ton of money off this today other then the State of Idaho.

It will be abundantly clear just how that can happen. 

My buddy was 8th in line. The guys that were 5 and 6 both left because the tags they were there for sold out just before they got to the counter. Of course the popular stuff sells first and then it slows down. I would expect it to.
When will it be clear?! Donít hold us in suspense!

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #162 on: December 01, 2023, 08:01:27 PM »
The needed info has been forwarded to the proper individuals.  The system is absolutely terrible and rife with fraud and there are people making a ton of money off this today other the the State of Idaho.

It will be abundantly clear just how that can happen. 

My buddy was 8th in line. The guys that were 5 and 6 both left because the tags they were there for sold out just before they got to the counter. Of course the popular stuff sells first and then it slows down. I would expect it to.
When will it be clear?! Donít hold us in suspense!
Why not just air it out?!

I did hear about people collecting money to wait in line for folks but thatís not exactly fraud, just kinda capitalism. Maybe operating without a business license.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #163 on: December 01, 2023, 08:02:32 PM »
1) Must log in to account to get in virtual waiting room. Eliminates multiple devices

2) Each hunter must be present for in-person purchases

3) Ability to get in virtual waiting room as a pair or group
I think these would be logical changes.

Sounds like there will be some changes next year.

I would probably be in favor of a December draw for general tags. That is effectively what it would be, anyway.

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Re: Idaho nonresident question
« Reply #164 on: December 01, 2023, 08:08:40 PM »
1) Must log in to account to get in virtual waiting room. Eliminates multiple devices

2) Each hunter must be present for in-person purchases

3) Ability to get in virtual waiting room as a pair or group
I think these would be logical changes.

Sounds like there will be some changes next year.

I would probably be in favor of a December draw for general tags. That is effectively what it would be, anyway.

Been hearing about changes for years now.  None have happened other than maybe a smoother running online sales

 


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