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Wrap it in cloth, keep it dry and it actually gets better with age. That said, I don’t keep it that way for more than a week.
Multiple weeks. Lean red meat is very durable. I frequently pull a vac pack roast out and let it thawfor a week in the fridge, then rub, wrap in Seran wrap and leave in the fridge for another week to 10 days before cooking. Phenomenal. Fattier meat is less forgiving but still more durable than most people think. I just cooked 5# of pork shoulder that I rubbed on the 16th and cooked on Christmas day. Rubbed and wrapped in Seran wrap and in the back of the fridge. The rub had fully permeated the roast and was fantastic.
Quote from: 7mmfan on December 27, 2023, 01:31:05 PMMultiple weeks. Lean red meat is very durable. I frequently pull a vac pack roast out and let it thawfor a week in the fridge, then rub, wrap in Seran wrap and leave in the fridge for another week to 10 days before cooking. Phenomenal. Fattier meat is less forgiving but still more durable than most people think. I just cooked 5# of pork shoulder that I rubbed on the 16th and cooked on Christmas day. Rubbed and wrapped in Seran wrap and in the back of the fridge. The rub had fully permeated the roast and was fantastic. Well said. I pretty much do the same. Take out of the freezer, let thaw for a week, then apply my binder and rub, wrap and keep in the fridge another week or so then bbq or in the smoker it goes.How ya doing 7mm Slight jack here.....What do you use for a binder?
Quote from: bigmacc on December 27, 2023, 03:00:20 PMQuote from: 7mmfan on December 27, 2023, 01:31:05 PMMultiple weeks. Lean red meat is very durable. I frequently pull a vac pack roast out and let it thawfor a week in the fridge, then rub, wrap in Seran wrap and leave in the fridge for another week to 10 days before cooking. Phenomenal. Fattier meat is less forgiving but still more durable than most people think. I just cooked 5# of pork shoulder that I rubbed on the 16th and cooked on Christmas day. Rubbed and wrapped in Seran wrap and in the back of the fridge. The rub had fully permeated the roast and was fantastic. Well said. I pretty much do the same. Take out of the freezer, let thaw for a week, then apply my binder and rub, wrap and keep in the fridge another week or so then bbq or in the smoker it goes.How ya doing 7mm Slight jack here.....What do you use for a binder?
also can depend if you shot it and froze it in a day or 3.. or did it hang for 2-3weeks... that meat will spoil faster out of the freezer than say something that was shot and froze. Anything with pork fat added would be eaten within a couple days
Short answer is multiple weeks. It's called wet aging.https://www.themeateater.com/cook/butchering-and-processing/the-why-and-how-of-wet-aging-big-game
Ground meat and steaks….3-4 days after fully defrosted. Roast….up to a week. The key is to open them up and get the meat out of the pooling liquid and blood. It’s the blood that will spoil the fastest. That’s why ground goes faster. Roast, we will get out of the package and blood, season them and then let them dry age a little before cooking. Steaks as well, just not as long as a bigger piece of meat. Just my opinion.
Quote from: Karl Blanchard on December 27, 2023, 01:15:53 PMShort answer is multiple weeks. It's called wet aging.https://www.themeateater.com/cook/butchering-and-processing/the-why-and-how-of-wet-aging-big-gameOr months. Vacuum sealed idk how long meat can last but I assume it will go bad at some point. I just ate a bear roast that was in the fridge for a couple months.
Quote from: dilleytech on December 30, 2023, 10:51:57 AMQuote from: Karl Blanchard on December 27, 2023, 01:15:53 PMShort answer is multiple weeks. It's called wet aging.https://www.themeateater.com/cook/butchering-and-processing/the-why-and-how-of-wet-aging-big-gameOr months. Vacuum sealed idk how long meat can last but I assume it will go bad at some point. I just ate a bear roast that was in the fridge for a couple months.Remember when you vacuum seal anything, you're sealing in the ambient bactieria with it. Not only is vacuum sealing not safer to leave for longer times out of the freezer, it may be more dangerous.
Well now we gots a dilemma. I’ve heard from both sides. I think you may be both right to a certain extent. A buddy says getting all the air away from the meat (vacuum sealed) will help it last down the road while thawing. Then again, if bacteria etc is on the meat, sealing it all in and then letting thaw can be a problem. You both could be right.
Quote from: bigmacc on December 31, 2023, 04:29:37 PMWell now we gots a dilemma. I’ve heard from both sides. I think you may be both right to a certain extent. A buddy says getting all the air away from the meat (vacuum sealed) will help it last down the road while thawing. Then again, if bacteria etc is on the meat, sealing it all in and then letting thaw can be a problem. You both could be right. If meat is exposed to air at all it will have bacteria on it. Bacteria is everywhere all around us. Wet aging is not a theory it’s a well used technique to age meats.
Quote from: dilleytech on January 02, 2024, 03:12:00 PMQuote from: bigmacc on December 31, 2023, 04:29:37 PMWell now we gots a dilemma. I’ve heard from both sides. I think you may be both right to a certain extent. A buddy says getting all the air away from the meat (vacuum sealed) will help it last down the road while thawing. Then again, if bacteria etc is on the meat, sealing it all in and then letting thaw can be a problem. You both could be right. If meat is exposed to air at all it will have bacteria on it. Bacteria is everywhere all around us. Wet aging is not a theory it’s a well used technique to age meats.Yet the finest restaurants in the world dry age red meat (exposed to the air) to make it more flavorful and tender, and under the inspection and approval of health authorities.
Quote from: pianoman9701 on January 03, 2024, 08:53:45 AMQuote from: dilleytech on January 02, 2024, 03:12:00 PMQuote from: bigmacc on December 31, 2023, 04:29:37 PMWell now we gots a dilemma. I’ve heard from both sides. I think you may be both right to a certain extent. A buddy says getting all the air away from the meat (vacuum sealed) will help it last down the road while thawing. Then again, if bacteria etc is on the meat, sealing it all in and then letting thaw can be a problem. You both could be right. If meat is exposed to air at all it will have bacteria on it. Bacteria is everywhere all around us. Wet aging is not a theory it’s a well used technique to age meats.Yet the finest restaurants in the world dry age red meat (exposed to the air) to make it more flavorful and tender, and under the inspection and approval of health authorities.That’s exactly right, they also wet age but basically all beef is dry aged before hitting market. And dry aged meat is covered in bacteria. The good kind. If you dry age long enough you end up shaving a layer of good mold off the meat. I think you are confusing bacteria as being inherently bad. You might take the time to learn about fermenting. It will help this stuff make sense.
Quote from: dilleytech on January 03, 2024, 09:05:20 AMQuote from: pianoman9701 on January 03, 2024, 08:53:45 AMQuote from: dilleytech on January 02, 2024, 03:12:00 PMQuote from: bigmacc on December 31, 2023, 04:29:37 PMWell now we gots a dilemma. I’ve heard from both sides. I think you may be both right to a certain extent. A buddy says getting all the air away from the meat (vacuum sealed) will help it last down the road while thawing. Then again, if bacteria etc is on the meat, sealing it all in and then letting thaw can be a problem. You both could be right. If meat is exposed to air at all it will have bacteria on it. Bacteria is everywhere all around us. Wet aging is not a theory it’s a well used technique to age meats.Yet the finest restaurants in the world dry age red meat (exposed to the air) to make it more flavorful and tender, and under the inspection and approval of health authorities.That’s exactly right, they also wet age but basically all beef is dry aged before hitting market. And dry aged meat is covered in bacteria. The good kind. If you dry age long enough you end up shaving a layer of good mold off the meat. I think you are confusing bacteria as being inherently bad. You might take the time to learn about fermenting. It will help this stuff make sense.I don't know what your background is, Dilley. But I know a lot more about food than you apparently think I do. Before mortgages, I spent more than 40 years in all aspects of the restaurant and hotel business, many of those as a chef and almost half of those as a supplier of exotic ingredients to the nation's top chefs. I'm not talking about dry aging before it hits the market. I'm talking about beef that's aged, sometimes as long as 6 months or more, in the restaurant. I know all about good and bad bacteria. I also know that wet aging can be safe for as long as 3 months or more in a sealed/vacuum environment, but can also cause serious illness if all food safety conditions aren't upheld throughout the entire process. One of the common problems at the household level is not maintaining proper temps and sanitation during preparation.
We had backstrap last night off my UT buck. 20 days wet aged. Pan seared and butter basted to medium rare. Literally cut with a fork tender.
Quote from: Karl Blanchard on January 06, 2024, 10:41:23 AMWe had backstrap last night off my UT buck. 20 days wet aged. Pan seared and butter basted to medium rare. Literally cut with a fork tender. Is anyone salting the meat or any seasoning on them before vac. Sealed and put in the fridge?
Quote from: TommyH on January 06, 2024, 10:59:27 AMQuote from: Karl Blanchard on January 06, 2024, 10:41:23 AMWe had backstrap last night off my UT buck. 20 days wet aged. Pan seared and butter basted to medium rare. Literally cut with a fork tender. Is anyone salting the meat or any seasoning on them before vac. Sealed and put in the fridge? I don't. Seems like way to long to have salted. I take mine out of the bag, pat dry, and season the night before I cook or that morning of and let dry brine in the fridge until cooking. Developes a much better sear that way
Quote from: TommyH on January 06, 2024, 10:59:27 AMQuote from: Karl Blanchard on January 06, 2024, 10:41:23 AMWe had backstrap last night off my UT buck. 20 days wet aged. Pan seared and butter basted to medium rare. Literally cut with a fork tender. Is anyone salting the meat or any seasoning on them before vac. Sealed and put in the fridge?I like to season without salting, which I do as a finish. On this piece of London Broil is fresh minced garlic, thyme, parsley, pepper, and a tbls of butter. I put two of these up today. One in the fridge for a few days and one in the freezer. Sous vide for 3 hours and brown for a minute on each side. No other prep necessary.