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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2024, 07:08:15 PM »
There's been some scuttlebutt about trusts eventually getting faster. My question is, "How?". Someone or something has to read the trust documents to make sure they are valid. I've seen a trust be the cause of a denial...same trust that had been previously used multiple times by this person to acquire NFA items.  So who's reading (interpreting) them? Who or what is going to read them faster? Are they going to hire a bunch of legalistic speed readers.....or will they deploy A.I.? :stirthepot:
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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2024, 09:25:24 PM »
I thought this was a pretty informative podcast. Sounds like Silencer Central is working on streamlining trust approvals by having their standard trust language essentially "pre-approved" by the ATF. They also explain why approval times have been drastically improved.

https://exomtngear.com/blogs/podcast/453
« Last Edit: April 12, 2024, 10:10:23 PM by pickardjw »

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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2024, 09:41:54 PM »
I sure hope it was Karl’s approval!!
it's definitely not  :chuckle: :'( :'( :'(
damn, I told you, you need to buy another one right now!!
I 100% agree.


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I would buy 10 more lowers and resubmit just because!
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Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2024, 09:45:53 PM »
I sure hope it was Karl’s approval!!
it's definitely not  :chuckle: :'( :'( :'(
damn, I told you, you need to buy another one right now!!
I 100% agree.


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You hit the lottery!
I would buy 10 more lowers and resubmit just because!
 :tup:
I'm lost on what you're saying. These approvals are for my customer's suppressors.


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« Last Edit: April 12, 2024, 09:52:36 PM by dreadi »
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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2024, 12:03:53 PM »
Is there a 10 day waiting period in WA after your form 4 is approved? 
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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2024, 02:39:45 PM »
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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2024, 11:44:09 AM »
Finally!

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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2024, 03:26:10 PM »
Finally!



That’s crazy, mine just took 2 days to get.

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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2024, 03:50:22 PM »
Finally!



That’s crazy, mine just took 2 days to get.

Agreed. But it was a trust application and from the best I can tell Silencer Central didn’t put my social security number on the application, which I have read can really prolong approval times. Should have gone through Dreadi. I will next time.

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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2024, 05:51:58 PM »
Finally!



That’s crazy, mine just took 2 days to get.

Agreed. But it was a trust application and from the best I can tell Silencer Central didn’t put my social security number on the application, which I have read can really prolong approval times. Should have gone through Dreadi. I will next time.
I appreciate that.
Omitting your SSN definitely could cause a delay in your background check. However, I can't promise that it would have been faster. Right now applications are moving faster obviously.


Today I received three approvals for two different people. Two of the applications were submitted with a trust and took longer than the individual application.


Trust:



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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2024, 11:19:36 PM »
Finally!



That’s crazy, mine just took 2 days to get.

Agreed. But it was a trust application and from the best I can tell Silencer Central didn’t put my social security number on the application, which I have read can really prolong approval times. Should have gone through Dreadi. I will next time.
I appreciate that.
Omitting your SSN definitely could cause a delay in your background check. However, I can't promise that it would have been faster. Right now applications are moving faster obviously.


Today I received three approvals for two different people. Two of the applications were submitted with a trust and took longer than the individual application.


Trust:



Individual:



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Two approvals with a trust received today, you say?      :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:

Thanks, man.

You really do make this as easy as possible.    :tup:
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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2024, 03:24:31 PM »
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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2024, 06:28:49 PM »
I sure hope it was Karl’s approval!!
it's definitely not  :chuckle: :'( :'( :'(
damn, I told you, you need to buy another one right now!!
I 100% agree.


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You hit the lottery!
I would buy 10 more lowers and resubmit just because!
 :tup:
I'm lost on what you're saying. These approvals are for my customer's suppressors.


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Sorry Dreadi, I brain farted and was thinking SBRs
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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2024, 06:30:43 PM »
I sure hope it was Karl’s approval!!
it's definitely not  :chuckle: :'( :'( :'(
damn, I told you, you need to buy another one right now!!
I 100% agree.


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You hit the lottery!
I would buy 10 more lowers and resubmit just because!
 :tup:
I'm lost on what you're saying. These approvals are for my customer's suppressors.


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Sorry Dreadi, I brain farted and was thinking SBRs

Ooooh yeah totally different


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Re: Form 4 - Two Day Approval
« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2024, 11:56:55 AM »
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