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Of course all the states including ours on the left coast are adopting this, however it is new car sales. Yesterday I was listening to the Shawn Ryan show and his guest Randall Carlson talked about combustion engine conversions to plasma fueled which after warmed up emitted zero polutants. I belive Randal is from the Basin area, has been on the joe Rogan podcast and such.

20+ years ago I meet a guy that did some kind of plasma fule conversion and got 50mpg in his Viper. I thought it was some kind of scam, but perhaps it's real and the tech is being mainstream Ed now because of this EV push.
My understanding of the plasma conversion in cars is that it is a different ignition system but still uses convential fuel. It may be cleaner but still produces CO2. Is this something different?

According to Randall it produces no co2 and he talks about a guy breathing the exhaust. It mostly peaked my interest from my past run in and supposedly he couldn't get the conversions accepted by a motor company and sold his pattent to some one for several million bucks and it got shelved. Times may have changed enough that it may make an reappearance.
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One only has to follow the money.  It's Bidens plan to go to EV's, who is Biden friends with, China. Who produces the batteries, China.  Who is on Bidens shirt tails, all the lefty states.  The whole idea is not planned out.  Look how long it will take to travel long distance and like everyone mentioned where is the power coming from?  They can easily shut down travel by have brown outs.  This is also carrying over to trucks so shipping will slow down for these trucks to charge and the cost of shipping will go up.  The only way out of this is to get a republican in office to stop this nonsense until an actual plan can be put in place.
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One only has to follow the money.  It's Bidens plan to go to EV's, who is Biden friends with, China. Who produces the batteries, China.  Who is on Bidens shirt tails, all the lefty states.  The whole idea is not planned out.  Look how long it will take to travel long distance and like everyone mentioned where is the power coming from?  They can easily shut down travel by have brown outs.  This is also carrying over to trucks so shipping will slow down for these trucks to charge and the cost of shipping will go up.  The only way out of this is to get a republican in office to stop this nonsense until an actual plan can be put in place.

So unrealized this is a big leap of faith but here it goes. Oil and car companies have a huge incentive not to change things dramatically overnight. They have to many sunk costs to do so willingly. 20+years ago this was certainly the case for both industries. ASSUME that plasma fuel is 100% real. That reasonable modifications can be made to cars, and that they cannot really be profitable today with electric cars(big 3). Oil companies would be harmed by huge increases in efficiency in the past, but with all the turmoil would us companies be as stressed today?  20 years in a product lifecycle is a long time. Perhaps plasma fueled cars can save these legacy companies so between unrealistic mandates and such the technological shift doesn't have as many down sides. Perhaps if the USA is the main stable oil producer and the rest of the world is a flame they can see some advantage in allowing this to happen now instead of 20 years ago.  :twocents:
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I haven't heard of plasma fuels until now and still know nothing about it.  I did hear hydrogen is a more likely alternative than an EV.  So I think either fuel is along the same lines of your thinking.  At tis point anything is better than electric.
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I love these news pieces for a good laugh. The bias on each side and little jabs taken :chuckle:

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most radical environmental rules in American history to phase out gasoline-powered vehicles and force customers to drive ineffective electric cars

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With the Biden regime receiving help from several compliant states, the gas car may soon become a historical footnote unless President Trump wins this year. He is the last hope to begin reversing this environmental insanity and perhaps save America altogether.

Maybe if everyone is forced to switch and use these ineffective cars then given some time all the road hunters will be gone lol  :IBCOOL:

Got to focus on the positives somehow when these inevitable changes are coming our way

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Reading through this post reminds me of reading some of the historical comments when people said the automobile would one day replace the horse. Not sure you can set a hard time frame and not sure it will be evs, but the days of fossil fueled vehicles being the norm are limited.
 


where is all the electricity going to come from? I think hybrids are the only intermediate step that can actually be done. If EV is really the final or best solution. Right now the lithium mines are enviromental disasters. look up some of the mines in Chile and other countrys. lots of deisel power being used at the mines as well. I am not sure we are reducing anyones carbon footprint mining all this lithium.Besides that we DONT have the power or electrical grid to convert to ev.

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Here's an article I read on the plasma tech. It still uses gas, still produces CO2, just is more efficient so uses less gas and produces less CO2. Sounds like it has potential.
https://www.wired.com/story/is-lightning-fast-plasma-the-key-to-a-cleaner-car-engine/
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