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Unfortunate information of the possible future for our public lands.“birds that don’t stay on the refuge or that aren’t available for hunters or closures of visitor centers and reduction in access.”“State agencies that depend on funding from the wildlife and fisheries restoration accounts, called Pittman-Robertson and Dingell-Johnson, respectively, are reporting stoppages”“These funds are critical for supporting state habitat work, public-land acquisitions, stocking programs, hunter education, new shooting ranges”“Ultimately, hunters and anglers are going to pay the price in less access, less opportunity, and less service from state agencies.”“Federal grant money funds not only state conservation projects and programs, but also state agency staff positions.”“Conservation delivery may shift from the public sector to the private sector“ https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/federal-government-cuts-affecting-hunting-fishing/This read seems for you lawyers but basically saying our public lands are being looked at in ways we never dreamed of before?“public land is one way to pay down the estimated $36 trillion national debt.““Looking at our public lands as part of a balance sheet? That’s *censored* that’s never been said out loud before.”“Conceivably Congress could say that it wants to dispose of 1.5 million acres of public land to offset proposed tax cuts,” says Willms. “They would then identify a process to do that. If that happens, your firewalls look a lot different.”https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/federal-land-sale-movement/
C'mon people, there absolutely no way that the best businessman that's ever ran a business would do anything to hurt the common folk. It's ridiculous to believe that he'd hand over the reins of the federal government to a South African emigrant that may not have the best interest of the citizens of this country, in mind. He wouldn't give massive tax breaks to multi-billionaires and make cuts to assistance programs that the working citizens of this country have been paying into for years. It's unfathomable that he would cut programs that harm our veterans and fellow citizens that have put there lives on the line for this country. The citizens of this great country need to relax, live their lives with eye's closed, and "believe" that the president has their backs and will do everything in his power to make America great again.
Quote from: chukardogs on March 13, 2025, 09:38:54 AM C'mon people, there absolutely no way that the best businessman that's ever ran a business would do anything to hurt the common folk. It's ridiculous to believe that he'd hand over the reins of the federal government to a South African emigrant that may not have the best interest of the citizens of this country, in mind. He wouldn't give massive tax breaks to multi-billionaires and make cuts to assistance programs that the working citizens of this country have been paying into for years. It's unfathomable that he would cut programs that harm our veterans and fellow citizens that have put there lives on the line for this country. The citizens of this great country need to relax, live their lives with eye's closed, and "believe" that the president has their backs and will do everything in his power to make America great again.So who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years
Well now that you've asked, I would have to assume it shouldn't be a non-elected South African emigrant, the non-elected being the important point. That individual has no business digging around in our government. Think about only the conflict of interest issues that arise. Our president owes this emigrant his freedom in the tune of 290 million dollars worth. Next, depending on your definition of a successful businessman, our president is so far removed from the most successful businessman he's not even on the first page. Actually, go spend some time looking up the number of companies your man has started and then bankrupted, usually leaving someone else holding the bag. As far as public lands being affected. Buy a good set of bolt cutters, a shovel, a good chainsaw or three and a 4x4 and go hunting. Who's going to stop you? It's called public land for a reason. If for some reason, it gets sold to a private entity, it'll take them years for the owners to come up with enough money and workers to monitor it all. Can you imagine how much it will cost to monitor all of the federal lands across this great country? It's a win win for hunters. I don't need someone to maintain the roads for me. In fact, for that reason, it'll probably make hunting better. Poachers are like thieves, if it requires much work, they'll find somewhere else to go be scumbags. If you're cutting trees out of the road on your way in, no one else has been there before you.
Duck season only 7 months away
So who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years
Quote from: Bucks2Ducks on March 13, 2025, 03:54:19 PMSo who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years I would chose an auditor (or rather large team or probably even a couple independent teams in the case of auditing the USG), it's what they do and who every other entity requiring auditing uses. Musk and his techs have no idea how to perform an audit and nothing they are doing even vaguely resembles an audit. They may be cutting programs and staff which may or may not be a good idea, but they aren't doing an audit.
We do not express an opinion on the accompanying consolidated financial statement of the Department.Because of the significance of the matter described in the Basis for Disclaimer of Opinion section of our report,we have not been able to obtain sufficient appropriate audit evidence to provide a basis for an audit opinion onthe consolidated financial statement.
Quote from: Bucks2Ducks on March 13, 2025, 03:54:19 PMQuote from: chukardogs on March 13, 2025, 09:38:54 AM C'mon people, there absolutely no way that the best businessman that's ever ran a business would do anything to hurt the common folk. It's ridiculous to believe that he'd hand over the reins of the federal government to a South African emigrant that may not have the best interest of the citizens of this country, in mind. He wouldn't give massive tax breaks to multi-billionaires and make cuts to assistance programs that the working citizens of this country have been paying into for years. It's unfathomable that he would cut programs that harm our veterans and fellow citizens that have put there lives on the line for this country. The citizens of this great country need to relax, live their lives with eye's closed, and "believe" that the president has their backs and will do everything in his power to make America great again.So who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The Kind of good to remember he won, but had less than 50% of the popular vote. Not exactly a landslide when you consider that more than half the population voted against him.
Quote from: chukardogs on March 13, 2025, 09:38:54 AM C'mon people, there absolutely no way that the best businessman that's ever ran a business would do anything to hurt the common folk. It's ridiculous to believe that he'd hand over the reins of the federal government to a South African emigrant that may not have the best interest of the citizens of this country, in mind. He wouldn't give massive tax breaks to multi-billionaires and make cuts to assistance programs that the working citizens of this country have been paying into for years. It's unfathomable that he would cut programs that harm our veterans and fellow citizens that have put there lives on the line for this country. The citizens of this great country need to relax, live their lives with eye's closed, and "believe" that the president has their backs and will do everything in his power to make America great again.So who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The
Well now that you've asked, I would have to assume it shouldn't be a non-elected South African emigrant, the non-elected being the important point. That individual has no business digging around in our government. Think about only the conflict of interest issues that arise. Our president owes this emigrant his freedom in the tune of 290 million dollars worth. Next, depending on your definition of a successful businessman, our president is so far removed from the most successful businessman he's not even on the first page. Actually, go spend some time looking up the number of companies your man has started and then bankrupted, usually leaving someone else holding the bag.
Trump didn't win the popular vote, he got less than 50%.The notion that because Elon isn't elected he shouldn't be around is likewise a head scratcher. Only congress and the president are elected. Cabinet members aren't, chairman of joint chiefs isn't, FBI director isn't, CIA director isn't, FED president isn't, nobody making any of those decisions are elected. The reverse argument would be that the only option is to send a couple 80+ year old senators into the Department of Education to look around and they couldn't bring any staff because those staff aren't elected.
I'm wrong, I misspoke, meant majority. He did get more votes this time.
Quote from: Stein on March 13, 2025, 06:32:08 PMQuote from: Bucks2Ducks on March 13, 2025, 03:54:19 PMSo who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years I would chose an auditor (or rather large team or probably even a couple independent teams in the case of auditing the USG), it's what they do and who every other entity requiring auditing uses. Musk and his techs have no idea how to perform an audit and nothing they are doing even vaguely resembles an audit. They may be cutting programs and staff which may or may not be a good idea, but they aren't doing an audit.Good old fashioned auditor teams got us into this predicament; I don't see them getting us out of it.Professionals built the Titanic. Amateurs built Noah's ark.
Quote from: Dan-o on March 13, 2025, 07:49:17 PMQuote from: Stein on March 13, 2025, 06:32:08 PMQuote from: Bucks2Ducks on March 13, 2025, 03:54:19 PMSo who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years I would chose an auditor (or rather large team or probably even a couple independent teams in the case of auditing the USG), it's what they do and who every other entity requiring auditing uses. Musk and his techs have no idea how to perform an audit and nothing they are doing even vaguely resembles an audit. They may be cutting programs and staff which may or may not be a good idea, but they aren't doing an audit.Good old fashioned auditor teams got us into this predicament; I don't see them getting us out of it.Professionals built the Titanic. Amateurs built Noah's ark.Apples and Fairy Tales.
Quote from: Angry Perch on April 02, 2025, 03:27:37 PMQuote from: Dan-o on March 13, 2025, 07:49:17 PMQuote from: Stein on March 13, 2025, 06:32:08 PMQuote from: Bucks2Ducks on March 13, 2025, 03:54:19 PMSo who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years I would chose an auditor (or rather large team or probably even a couple independent teams in the case of auditing the USG), it's what they do and who every other entity requiring auditing uses. Musk and his techs have no idea how to perform an audit and nothing they are doing even vaguely resembles an audit. They may be cutting programs and staff which may or may not be a good idea, but they aren't doing an audit.Good old fashioned auditor teams got us into this predicament; I don't see them getting us out of it.Professionals built the Titanic. Amateurs built Noah's ark.Apples and Fairy Tales.Can you give me an example of when the federal gov has actually ever been audited? I'm probably responding to multiple posts here, but when has a 3rd party ever came in and audited the system, and given recommendations on public tac payer funded programs. EVERYONE should watch his fox interview with the dodge team a few days ago. I would love to know when this type of audit has ever taken place, with the business leaders it involved helping, all for free and as transparent as possible.. musk has said so many times we will make mistakes, and the mistakes will be corrected,. Like someone posted before, trump literally ran on the idea that he would have elon and his team help with finding gov waste. And he won, and his honoring his promise. I'm surprised people are confused with this.
Quote from: 85yota on April 02, 2025, 05:38:46 PMQuote from: Angry Perch on April 02, 2025, 03:27:37 PMQuote from: Dan-o on March 13, 2025, 07:49:17 PMQuote from: Stein on March 13, 2025, 06:32:08 PMQuote from: Bucks2Ducks on March 13, 2025, 03:54:19 PMSo who should be auditing the government? I would choose the most successful businessman in the Country, which is what Trump did. And what he ran on the whole time, and won in a landslide victory. The US dollar is at the edge of collapse, interest on our debt is more than the Defense budget... there is some serious issues that need to be fixed immediately. The problem is there should be an annual audit, not one every 30 years I would chose an auditor (or rather large team or probably even a couple independent teams in the case of auditing the USG), it's what they do and who every other entity requiring auditing uses. Musk and his techs have no idea how to perform an audit and nothing they are doing even vaguely resembles an audit. They may be cutting programs and staff which may or may not be a good idea, but they aren't doing an audit.Good old fashioned auditor teams got us into this predicament; I don't see them getting us out of it.Professionals built the Titanic. Amateurs built Noah's ark.Apples and Fairy Tales.Can you give me an example of when the federal gov has actually ever been audited? I'm probably responding to multiple posts here, but when has a 3rd party ever came in and audited the system, and given recommendations on public tac payer funded programs. EVERYONE should watch his fox interview with the dodge team a few days ago. I would love to know when this type of audit has ever taken place, with the business leaders it involved helping, all for free and as transparent as possible.. musk has said so many times we will make mistakes, and the mistakes will be corrected,. Like someone posted before, trump literally ran on the idea that he would have elon and his team help with finding gov waste. And he won, and his honoring his promise. I'm surprised people are confused with this.I don't have a problem with an audit, just need to remember this is the government not a business. Businesses don't have the personal records of virtually everyone. The have the information you have given them, by choice, that's needed to carry out a business transaction. The various agencies being audited make available to the auditor virtually everything there is to know about you. I'm not comfortable with this being done by anonymous teams that have not been vetted and we are told "don't worry, you can trust em". The information they're compiling is information that marketing managers spend millions on to try to gather. Maybe you're comfortable with all your personal information being gathered like this, but I'm not.
These folks are Elon Musks employees (check out who's paying them) Government employees in these sensitive positions are required to go thru an intensive background check, with serious checks in place as to how much information is made available to them and serious penalties for divulging that info. Sure, there can still be problems, but at least we know who the employees are. Thus far the actual list, names etc. of these various auditors is not available. So far there have been reports of these auditors showing up with DOGE credentials and demanding access to information that, at times, is very personal and considered sensitive. All I'm wanting is some guarantee that all.this info their gathering is being guarded and doesn't come back to bite us in the future. I can't be too trusting when I really don't know who I'm supposed to trust
That appears to.be a foggy question. Technically they say they are government employees but apparently they are currently or recently hired personnel from Musk enterprises. Musk is employed by the government, like many contractors, but that doesn't automatically make his employees government employees. It's one of those kinda shady things that makes me a bit nervous.. Apparently most are apparently very sophisticated tech people. I'm pretty naive on that stuff which makes me even more nervous.
