Max pts

[MADMAX]

I don’t know if it’s still happening but years ago, I heard some would put in their wife and kids as well to draw the best tags if possible whether or not the wife or kids hunted
There’s always somebody that wants to play the system

[CarbonHunter]

I don’t know if it’s still happening but years ago, I heard some would put in their wife and kids as well to draw the best tags if possible whether or not the wife or kids hunted
There’s always somebody that wants to play the system

I heard stories of this as well. I have also heard those who do this typically shoot animals for their families every year as well. It’s just rumors to me as I don’t know anyone who personally does it but it does come from people who I know that engage with people who are less than respectable members of society.

[jstone]

19 Quality Deer and Elk
Help me baby Jesus

[trophyhunt]

Guys draw with little points all the time.

If TH does not draw his elk tag this year, He’s gonna need a new therapist 

I think I'm broken, might take a team of therapist to fix me Bryan!! 

[ballpark]

Does putting in as a Group increase your odds?  Seems everytime we get drawn, its when we have put in as a group.   

[trophyhunt]

Does putting in as a Group increase your odds?  Seems everytime we get drawn, its when we have put in as a group.   

It depends I guess, the number of tags given out might effect that.  But if you put in as a group and it lowers your points down enough to put you in the area where more people are drawn, maybe.  A person that does the drawing told me to lower my points for a better chance, but I just don't see that. 

[vandeman17]

Does putting in as a Group increase your odds?  Seems everytime we get drawn, its when we have put in as a group.   

No it lowers your odds. If you put in for a group and your number is drawn but the number of tags left is less than your group number, you are tossed out. The way I see it is if I am applying with a group of 4 and there are 12 tags, I am realistically applying for a tag with 9 tags because the last 3 I have 0 chance of drawing.

[Stein]

Does putting in as a Group increase your odds?  Seems everytime we get drawn, its when we have put in as a group.   

It depends I guess, the number of tags given out might effect that.  But if you put in as a group and it lowers your points down enough to put you in the area where more people are drawn, maybe.  A person that does the drawing told me to lower my points for a better chance, but I just don't see that.

I'm going out on a limb and guessing the person that told you that wasn't a math major.

[trophyhunt]

Does putting in as a Group increase your odds?  Seems everytime we get drawn, its when we have put in as a group.   

It depends I guess, the number of tags given out might effect that.  But if you put in as a group and it lowers your points down enough to put you in the area where more people are drawn, maybe.  A person that does the drawing told me to lower my points for a better chance, but I just don't see that.

I'm going out on a limb and guessing the person that told you that wasn't a math major.

I know what they were seeing, more people in the lower points draw than people with a lot of points.  But yeah, it doesn’t add up.

[Stein]

There are a lot more in the lower point group.  In any given year, your odds increase with points.

It's like saying that more working class people win the lottery than millionaires so a millionaire should give away a bunch of loot to get better odds of winning.

[Bob33]

Does putting in as a Group increase your odds?  Seems everytime we get drawn, its when we have put in as a group.   

Applying as a group averages the points of the applicants. If one applicant has one point and the other has three, the party is entered as one application with two points. I guess you could say it increases the odds of the applicant with one point, and decreases the odds of the applicant with three points.

Be aware that a party application can only be awarded if there are enough remaining permits to fulfill the party. If a party application with two applicants is drawn and only one permit remains, the application is skipped. To be it another way, a party application for a hunt with one permit could never be awarded.

[BEARHUNTER1]

30 quality bull points and 66 years old with my health going down hill I think I’m done. I’m the last of my camp and everyone else gave up. No drive or patience in the woods. I have killed a few elk between muzzle loading and archery.
God bless everyone and stay safe.
Put some meat on the ground!


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[CarbonHunter]

30 quality bull points and 66 years old with my health going down hill I think I’m done. I’m the last of my camp and everyone else gave up. No drive or patience in the woods. I have killed a few elk between muzzle loading and archery.
God bless everyone and stay safe.
Put some meat on the ground!


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I have seen a lot of camps age out of the game. It’s a sad fact of hunting and I have known multiple hunters die with many points in the pool.

Bearhunter1 I wish you the best in points chase retirement and I am sorry to hear that you never were able to get that golden ticket we all strive for.

[BEARHUNTER1]

Thanks!


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[Alan K]

A person that does the drawing told me to lower my points for a better chance, but I just don't see that.

Probably the same person that thought putting average points drawn in the pamphlet was worthwhile! Unless they've been lying to us about how the math/process is done (after last year, maybe it's the case?) then that person clearly has no idea what they're talking about.  Frankly, with so many people mathematically illiterate these days it wouldn't suprise me though.