The Rack

[DaNewb]

Of course this is all hypothetical...

You have a 4-point buck in your sights. A forgone conclusion that deer is coming home with you if you fire.

Except you do not care about the rack, you know you won't get it mounted, you don't even have the wall space back home to hang it...in fact, you don't even want to pack the head and antlers out of the woods.

It's a big deer with a lot more meat on its bones than any of the does you've seen, and that is all that matters.

Do you let it pass so that someone who does care about a nice mount such as this can take it and hang it on their wall, or do you fire and fill the freezer, leaving the rack to the shed hunters?

 

[Pathfinder101]

I'm shooting. 
Lots more meat off a mature buck than a younger one.  Rack won't do shed hunters any good in WA, that would be a "deadhead" and in WA you can't pick those up.  Killing a mature buck (4-5 years old) means that you are taking an old deer out of the habitat and making room in the carrying capacity for younger deer to survive.  That 4-5 year old buck probably only has another year or two that he's going to live anyway.
Donate the antlers to a Hunter Education program for wildlife ID classes if I don't have room for them at home.
The fact is that "Trophy Hunting" aligns best with the North American Model of Wildlife Management because you are taking an older animal out of the population that has already done most of what it was going to do on the planet anyway. 

[Ghost Hunter]

Shed hunters can't take a dead head.  Might want to check regs on if head needs to come out.

[hunter399]

If you can pack meat,you can carry the head.
I'd say invest in a game cart,or a support system of family and friends to help pack.
Or hunt a lot closer to the road.
With CWD,your cutting out lymphs ,or taking the head to check station.
Even a spike I'd bring home for dog chews.
They have compact meat saw or hacksaw you can carry to cut the skull plate and still have a mount. Without carrying the whole head.

[boneaddict]

If I need meat in my freezer the legal animal will be taken.   If the meat isnt needed or wanted, then dont shoot the animal. Take a photo, the hunt has already happened.     Meat comes out first.  Antlers last, some states that is the law. (alaska)

[Kingofthemountain83]

I'd shoot it and do a european mount... I like those... I'd get it home and cut it up to mostly roast, burger, steak up the backstraps.... My dad would throw the rack on a shelf in the garage with the rest of them... He's never cared about antlers... Was raised a meat hunter and never changed... If it's legal, he's going to take it if he can... The only time I seen him be selective he had a quality muzzy any bull tag and a quality modern any buck tag... And I don't recommend leaving any animal head behind just in case you run into a warden... You can always give the head away later or go toss it back into the woods for a dead head... I heard about a guy a few years ago that used a salvage tag on a dead head he found while hunting... After seeing it I understood...  Genius move imo! 

[Pathfinder101]

I'd shoot it and do a european mount... I like those... I'd get it home and cut it up to mostly roast, burger, steak up the backstraps.... My dad would throw the rack on a shelf in the garage with the rest of them... He's never cared about antlers... Was raised a meat hunter and never changed... If it's legal, he's going to take it if he can... The only time I seen him be selective he had a quality muzzy any bull tag and a quality modern any buck tag... And I don't recommend leaving any animal head behind just in case you run into a warden... You can always give the head away later or go toss it back into the woods for a dead head... I heard about a guy a few years ago that used a salvage tag on a dead head he found while hunting... After seeing it I understood...  Genius move imo!

Holy cow.  That IS genius.  I never thought of that... 
Good trick to have in your back pocket...

[Kingofthemountain83]

I'd shoot it and do a european mount... I like those... I'd get it home and cut it up to mostly roast, burger, steak up the backstraps.... My dad would throw the rack on a shelf in the garage with the rest of them... He's never cared about antlers... Was raised a meat hunter and never changed... If it's legal, he's going to take it if he can... The only time I seen him be selective he had a quality muzzy any bull tag and a quality modern any buck tag... And I don't recommend leaving any animal head behind just in case you run into a warden... You can always give the head away later or go toss it back into the woods for a dead head... I heard about a guy a few years ago that used a salvage tag on a dead head he found while hunting... After seeing it I understood...  Genius move imo!

Holy cow.  That IS genius.  I never thought of that... 
Good trick to have in your back pocket...

I'll do if I find one with the WOW factor!

[NOCK NOCK]

That would be illegal.  One would have to lie filling out the salvage location data.

This kinda reminds me of the Idaho Tcam thread where a post was made referencing slowly the gubernment is/will be turning many into "poachers"/illegal doings. FACT!

 

[kentrek]

Give the rack to a kid, could change his life

[Kingofthemountain83]

That would be illegal.  One would have to lie filling out the salvage location data.

This kinda reminds me of the Idaho Tcam thread where a post was made referencing slowly the gubernment is/will be turning many into "poachers"/illegal doings. FACT!

 

I get it... It's a victimless crime... But still illegal... When I was 18, almost 24 years ago I picked a BT that I hit and made her all into burger except the back straps... I couldn't just leave it there... Felt like crap...

[Pathfinder101]

That would be illegal.  One would have to lie filling out the salvage location data.

This kinda reminds me of the Idaho Tcam thread where a post was made referencing slowly the gubernment is/will be turning many into "poachers"/illegal doings. FACT!

 

Is it?  I've never filled out a salvage tag before, so I don't know the stipulations.   

[Mike450r]

That would be illegal.  One would have to lie filling out the salvage location data.

This kinda reminds me of the Idaho Tcam thread where a post was made referencing slowly the gubernment is/will be turning many into "poachers"/illegal doings. FACT!

 

Is it?  I've never filled out a salvage tag before, so I don't know the stipulations.   

The law specifies the deer/elk must have been accidentally hit by a motor vehicle. 

[DaNewb]

Well...this was suppose to be more about respect for other hunters who actually do value the 'trophy'...but the legalities of taking a deer head found in the woods is good too.

 

[Pathfinder101]

That would be illegal.  One would have to lie filling out the salvage location data.

This kinda reminds me of the Idaho Tcam thread where a post was made referencing slowly the gubernment is/will be turning many into "poachers"/illegal doings. FACT!

 

Is it?  I've never filled out a salvage tag before, so I don't know the stipulations.   

The law specifies the deer/elk must have been accidentally hit by a motor vehicle.

Roger.  Thanks for the clarification.
 

[NOCK NOCK]

That would be illegal.  One would have to lie filling out the salvage location data.

This kinda reminds me of the Idaho Tcam thread where a post was made referencing slowly the gubernment is/will be turning many into "poachers"/illegal doings. FACT!

 

Is it?  I've never filled out a salvage tag before, so I don't know the stipulations.   

The law specifies the deer/elk must have been accidentally hit by a motor vehicle.

Roger.  Thanks for the clarification.
 

and there is a map where ya need to post location of vehicle struck deer. Been a few years, but I have done quite a few.

I like the idea as a way to get a deadhead, just dont want to see someone get in trouble for not knowing salvage rules.

[Pathfinder101]

That would be illegal.  One would have to lie filling out the salvage location data.

This kinda reminds me of the Idaho Tcam thread where a post was made referencing slowly the gubernment is/will be turning many into "poachers"/illegal doings. FACT!

 

Is it?  I've never filled out a salvage tag before, so I don't know the stipulations.   

The law specifies the deer/elk must have been accidentally hit by a motor vehicle.

Roger.  Thanks for the clarification.
 

and there is a map where ya need to post location of vehicle struck deer. Been a few years, but I have done quite a few.

I like the idea as a way to get a deadhead, just dont want to see someone get in trouble for not knowing salvage rules.

I guess if I ever find one that big, I could drop by the WDFW office and inquire about getting a salvage tag for a deadhead.  Doesn't hurt to ask, and then it would be totally on the up and up...

[Mtnwalker]

Well...this was suppose to be more about respect for other hunters who actually do value the 'trophy'...but the legalities of taking a deer head found in the woods is good too.

 

If it was an absolute toad then yeah it would be a bro move to look for a different meat buck if you don't care about the antlers. In general it's better to take meat bucks than meat does, it makes no difference in the end whether the antlers go on your wall or in the trash. And if you're hypothetically hunting an APR unit then you don't have a choice in the matter, you're required to take the antlers whether you want them or not.