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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2012, 10:18:15 PM »
KB only mentioned it cause it didn't work on my Hotmail account...
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2012, 02:45:06 AM »
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2012, 04:52:34 AM »
KB only mentioned it cause it didn't work on my Hotmail account...

I hear ya.. that's strange because I use hotmail also and it works for me... I did go ahead and add a space after each semi-colon. Maybe that will help.
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2012, 08:24:38 AM »
Rasbo, how woold you like a free woolcut. you are looking kind of nappy these days... :chuckle:
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2012, 06:50:46 PM »
this is the reply I got:

Ben,
 
We just had a hearing on this bill in the Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee (AGNR). I left with very mixed feelings on the bill. I feel for my colleagues in eastern Washington who are concerned that they will bear all of the weight of the recovery and that wolf recovery may be deemed achieved with all breeding pairs being located in Eastern Washington and none in Western Washington. That means passage of the bill will then require that wolves be reintroduced in Western Washington before recovery is deemed to be achieved. This guarantees that my constituents will bear the burden of wolf recovery and suffer all of the consequences. I am not sure I can support thatů
 
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2012, 08:03:54 PM »
Yep that was the first meting that we attended on House Bill HB2214. Now we are addressing the companion Senate Bill SB6136.

In the event that HB2214 does not pass or die in Committee, then SB 6136 could be voted in. Either of the Bills will provide the relief that Ed Speaks of.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2012, 09:29:24 AM by KillBilly »
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2012, 12:50:31 AM »
That was the same response sent to many on the HB2214. I recieved the same one.
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2012, 09:24:09 AM »
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2012, 09:27:27 AM »
That was the same response sent to many on the HB2214. I recieved the same one.

That is strange because this second round went to Senators only...Ed is a representative...  :dunno:
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2012, 09:41:55 AM »
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2012, 09:56:19 AM »
That was the same response sent to many on the HB2214. I recieved the same one.

That is strange because this second round went to Senators only...Ed is a representative...  :dunno:



Sorry for the confusion Al.  That was the response I recieved from Ed when I emailed the Represenatives. I have recieved nothing from my email sent to the Senators.
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2012, 10:53:52 AM »
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Re: HB2214 - SB61360 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2012, 10:25:02 PM »
When I first read Ed Orcutt's response I thought he completely mis-understood the goal of HB2214, but having dug a little deeper, I understand what he is talking about when he says "passage of the bill will then require that wolves be reintroduced in Western Washington before recovery is deemed to be achieved". Now I am wondering if this bill will negatively affect us in Western Washington.

If the current plan is nullified, and WDFW is required to manage on a regional basis, then it will help Eastern Washington because they are already delisted according to the feds. To quote from the bill "the commission must consider the parallel federal endangered species act status of the species in question for the region where a change in status is petitioned". This line essentially nullifies WDFW's plan. However, since there are currently no wolves in Western Washington, and we are arguing for "regional" management, how will we keep wolves out of Western Washington? 

If the goal is simply to revoke WDFW's current plan then this will do it. Looking forward however, if we promote "regional" management it seems like we are advocating for wolf recovery in Western Washington. Am I way off?

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Re: HB2214 - SB6136 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2012, 11:35:42 PM »
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/board,76.20.html

Adoption of the wolf management plan already requires wolves in western Washington. Passage of this bill wouldn't change that, but require the state to follow the federal ESA and delist in the eastern 1/3 of the state by my understanding.

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Re: HB2214 - SB6136 wolf bills ( Capital Press)
« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2012, 04:14:35 PM »
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/board,76.20.html

Adoption of the wolf management plan already requires wolves in western Washington. Passage of this bill wouldn't change that, but require the state to follow the federal ESA and delist in the eastern 1/3 of the state by my understanding.
It would require to delist any region/zone that met it's disrtibution & BPs. Of course, the north 1/3 would be 1st because it has the most wolves but it would have to meet the 3 BPs for three years but that's way better than  having to wait for the entire state... We really want HB 2214 to pass.
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