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arrowflinger:
I agree...........very touchy. But if I remember right..........didn't god create the animals?

Bofire:
Does anyone know how this works? I am pretty sure investigation of major crimes on reservations are conducted by Feds. Like Murders/Kidnapping. I think I saw that the charges were filed by a federal prosecuter, is the violation a Federal crime or an Indian Tribe crime? Whose rules are used? Where would they "do the time' or pay the fine"? What court do they go to?
Thanks
Carl

Shadow Cat:
Crimes committed on tribal land are first investigated by tribal police and over seen and "reviewed" by federal agencies, mainly the US Department of the Interior. Crimes that require prison time committed on tribal land are usually are sentenced to federal prisons. (Have you ever seen a prison on a reservation?)
The DOI manages the trust account and makes the payments to individuals and to the tribe. This is a pet peeve of mine. A judge makes a ruling against the US, our taxes go up, and the DOI gets to pay them...  >:( A few years ago, DOI got into hot water over some money that came up missing. A federal court judge was mad about it and took away DOI's (and the departments under DOI such as US Fish & Wildlife) internet connection to get peoples attention. ) See Cobil V. Norton:  ( http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/dc/035262a.pdf ) "This isn't about ego, it's about making the government accountable," Cobell said. "Indian people simply don't know what they own - nobody has ever held the U.S. government accountable."
Cobell is lead plaintiff in the largest lawsuit ever filed by American Indians against the federal government.
And so far, she's won the first round of a two-part case, which has resulted in an overhaul of the government'saccounting system that has for 113 years mismanaged billions of dollars in land assets belonging to roughly 500,000 Indians and their heirs.
Now, she and all of the Indian nations are waiting for the trial to begin in which they hope to recover more than $10 billion in land, gas, oil, water and timber leases they believe are theirs and were denied them because of poor accounting practices, and is some case, no accounting.

Since this took place off of tribal lands and out side of their nautical boarders, it falls into federal jurisdiction and involves NOAA as they are responsible for endangered whales.
As far as I am concerned, The treaties need to be done away with and the indians need to become a part of society. I have native blood in me and I lived in Tuba City on the Navajo Indian reservation in Arizona when I worked for the Indian Health Services. I saw a lot of things that did not set to well with me.

bearhunter59:
ONE NATION!   ONE RULE!!!!
One set of rules for all of us.
You can't have a separate "Nation" within a Nation....it just doesn't work.

And what about our natural rights to hunt and fish like our forefathers did when they first came to this continent?  It's not like they had a lot of pigs, cows, or chickens, or vegatables just growing all over the place, to eat when they first arrived...they lived off the land just as the Indians did. (I refuse to call them "Natives" since they are no more "native" to this continent than we are.)

"Regulating" their hunting and fishing rights such as our hunting and fishing rights are "regulated" is only fair.  Even if they have this right???, why don't they have to buy licenses and register just like all of us?  Not so much to prevent them from hunting or fishing, as much as to be able to "verify" which of them are legally allowed to hunt/fish under Indian privledges.  I mean let's face it, when these treaties were signed, almost 100% of the Indians were Indian.  Now, probably less than 5% of them have more than 1/32nd of Indian blood in them, which means there has been more non-Indian blood introduced into their bloodline over the last 150 years, than Indian blood.  Yet, these same "Indians" will stand-up and spout "It's our heritage and traditions!!!"  BULL POOP!!!!

....I gotta stop...I get so riled-up when I get on this Indians and their treaty BS.......

ONE NATION!  ONE RULE!!!

PS...Just a thought.....IF Indians are their own NATION, doesn't that make them NOT US CITIZENS, therefore not entitled to protection under the Constitution????  Can't have it both ways....Either your a Citizen and have to follow the same laws as the rest of the citizens, or your not, and therefore not entitled to the protections of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

ONE NATION!  ONE RULE!!!



Shadow Cat:
I agree, but try to find an attorney that will back you....

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