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best draw for moose unit wise
boneaddict:
The wolves moved into the Idaho side of Mica, and they go where their food is, as you know, the stateline means nothing.
WAcoueshunter:
--- Quote from: Bob33 on January 20, 2014, 01:40:48 PM ---With maximum points (19) the odds of drawing a 49 Degree North tag are currently about 1 in 125. I think the best advice is to apply for as many units as possible (currently four) each year. If drawn in any unit, you will find quality moose.
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Definitely good advice, although I'm not sure about the math.
In 2012, there were 13,068 49DN applicants with an average of 6 points, or 470,448 total numbers in the draw. Divide by 21 49DN tags, equals 22,402 numbers in the draw per tag. Someone with 19 points would have 361 numbers in the draw. 22,402/361 = 62, or 1:62 odds.
If that same person put in for three other units, his/her overall odds would get down to 1:15 or so.
bobcat:
There's no possible way moose odds ever get close to 1 in 15. But I sure wish that were true!
WAcoueshunter:
--- Quote from: bobcat on January 21, 2014, 10:49:05 AM ---There's no possible way moose odds ever get close to 1 in 15. But I sure wish that were true!
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Feel free to point out where the math is incorrect. I'm not a statistician, but I think that math gets you pretty close. Also, if you just eyeball the point totals, those guys at the top are in the 1:30 range. 10 successful applicants out of 372 applications with 18 points, 7 out of 244 with 16 points, etc. Could be that some of those guys don't put in for all four choices, which would lower their odds. Could be that my math is a little off somewhere. Either way, it's a whole lot lower than 1:125.
Bob33:
--- Quote from: WAcoueshunter on January 21, 2014, 10:36:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bob33 on January 20, 2014, 01:40:48 PM ---With maximum points (19) the odds of drawing a 49 Degree North tag are currently about 1 in 125. I think the best advice is to apply for as many units as possible (currently four) each year. If drawn in any unit, you will find quality moose.
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Definitely good advice, although I'm not sure about the math.
In 2012, there were 13,068 49DN applicants with an average of 6 points, or 470,448 total numbers in the draw. Divide by 21 49DN tags, equals 22,402 numbers in the draw per tag. Someone with 19 points would have 361 numbers in the draw. 22,402/361 = 62, or 1:62 odds.
If that same person put in for three other units, his/her overall odds would get down to 1:15 or so.
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Average points don't work for this. You need to compute "names in the hat" individually. There were 890,434 names in the hat for 49 DN. See below. Example - for the three applicants with 19 points, there were 1083 names in the hat: 19^2 x 3.
Points Applications Names
19 3 1083
18 5 1620
17 332 95948
16 189 48384
15 203 45675
14 568 111328
13 568 95992
12 584 84096
11 617 74657
10 677 67700
9 847 68607
8 860 55040
7 875 42875
6 992 35712
5 1095 27375
4 1130 18080
3 1148 10332
2 1185 4740
1 1190 1190
Totals 13068 890434
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