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Safe Shooting Distance
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jackelope:
i got thinking about this thread, and a question i have is what scopes are you guys using on your rifle that you can confidently put the crosshairs on a deer sized animal at 500+ yards and know where it's gonna hit?
i have trouble feeling confident 300+yards with a 3x9 lepold vari-x
Lincoln4:
What he said...
edmondshunter:
I shoot a base model, 700 rem. .270 win iron sights.  I hunt on the "WestSide" never had to take a shot over 85-90 yards.  I was breaking target clays @300 yrds, but would never think of taking a shot that long on a big game animal.  Lets not forget our sense of adventure and close the gap a little, make an ethical shot everytime.  The worst loss for a hunter is an animal not recovered.
Coasthunterjay:
While i would like to agree with all of you, i do and i dont. I must say I feel overly confidant in my skills as a hunter and a good marksman and ability to shoot an animal at a long distance. Since i was really young i have been trained by my father, grandfather and some of my best friends that i have hunted together with for over 10 years. With that said i have had well over 100 plus years of hunting and shooting with military training from some of those and myself to back my training up instilled in me since i was born. As well as that in over 10 years of hunting by myself there has only been one year that i have not harvested a deer and that was not because of a bad shot or not being able to find a downed animal. It was because i was being selfish and wanted to shot a huge deer and passed up over 4 legal bucks with in 100yrds. Not to say that taking a long shot at over 700 yards is safe or unsafe but this is my view and experiance.......... Weather permitting and with an accurate weapon ( Properly cared for and well oiled and very clean, trusted) and with Cartridge rounds that have been custom made and measured for perfect accuracy and lots of practice and a steady hand. The last being one of the most important. This type of thing can be done with the right training, gear, and experiance. I hunt with a Winchester 270 and hunt with custom made Ballistic tip cartridges (Rounds). I have for several years and almost every year we tweek or do something different to our rounds or the way we sight in our Rifles or even the amount that we shoot them before we go hunting. And we shoot alot.

Here is my story......... About four years ago i was heading up this huge 4x4 WT, had been watching him for weeks scouting for opening day and i mean irregularly huge for a 4x4. Well opening night out walks this Buck and it wasnt the one i wanted and well in my head POPS the saying my dad had always told me about not being picky and just taking the first legal deer ever so as this deer was positioning himself out in the field i slowely layed down on my stomach. Got in my position and layed my sights down on this animal. While being comfortable in my shooting skills and taking long shoots before i figured that it was maybe 450- tops 500 yards. I pulled off One single shot watched the Buck drop, looked to the sky and thanked GOD, just as i had and do everytime a get an animal. I then called my dad on the radio to come over to get it and help me pull it out. later as my father and i stood over the deer he asked me where i had shot it from and i told him. He then out of Dis-belief asked me to point to it and then pulled out his range finder. Ranging the distance he said i had to be joking. I asked why he didnt believe me walked him back over to the spot and showed him the brass and imprint of my body lieing down that i had left on the ground. My Dad looked at me and shook my hand and said " Great shot son, You just shot a deer at over 650 yrds" This had been my farthest shot and the only reason i say this is because I had shot deer in the past at over 450 yards before with my father standing right beside me saying i would hit it. I have and do!!! This is all with my Grandfathers Old Winchester 270.
You can take a long shot with lots of experiance and training......

I didnt read the Post from MM but if she sucessfuly killed her animal at 700yards and killed it. Then good to her. we shouldnt be making Fun just because she did it. If no one got hurt then i say. AWESOME SHOT LADY!!!............................AJ

Just my  .02 Cents
Wea300mag:
Coasthunter,

The problem with your thinking is the probability of having wounded animals running around that will never be found is very high. At 300 yards, using my 3.5-10x50mm VX-III with duplex reticle, the cross hairs take up a large percentage of a deer's body. At 4, 5, 6 hundred yards it's a crap shoot. If you are shooting at a coyote, yes, shoot until you run out of ammo, but not for game animals. I hear stories of these 400+ yard shots all the time but have a hard time believing them. They probably do happen on occasion but how many animals were wasted to get to that occasion.
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