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| Coasthunterjay:
--- Quote from: Coasthunterjay on September 28, 2007, 09:34:10 PM ---As well as that in over 10 years of hunting by myself there has only been one year that i have not harvested a deer and that was not because of a bad shot or not being able to find a downed animal. It was because i was being selfish and wanted to shot a huge deer and passed up over 4 legal bucks with in 100yrds. Not to say that taking a long shot at over 700 yards is safe or unsafe but this is my view and experiance......... --- End quote --- I would most times agree with everyone. I am sorry please dont take this negatively or arguementative. you all are my friends and great hunting partners and i hope that in the next coupple years that i will be able to hunt with all of you or meet you all. And i have already meet a few of you so i have started. My average shots are around 200-300 for all animals. deer, elk, bear. shoot i shot my couger at less that 10 yards and well yes much farther for coyotes. MUCH :chuckle:. I could easily take a 100-150 yard shot i could probably take a 50 yard shot if i took the time and worked at it to get the animal that close to me. But i dont. I like to take the longer shot. I am confidant and VERY experianced. I hunt with an old weaver scope that is probably older than i am but my dad also hunts with the Leupold Tactical VX-III with the lighted reticle and has on several occasions told me he could see clearer and better through my little scope. Im not argueing, Please dont think i am. i just want to be very clear that you understand what i am saying. Just another experianced, differently trained seasoned Hunters opinion Not to say that it isnt a good idea for other person and deffinantly not to do on an everytime basis or to do at all. I believe this is different with everyone and is only valled for those that dont feel comfortable taking that shot. I in my 12 years of hunting have never wasted one animal that i had layed my cross hairs upon. Yes i have missed and made a semi-bad shot but that also wasnt because of distance. i am a good tracker, Have lots of patients and know how to take my time. let the animal die and then find it when i get it. But i really have never had to do that. I usually prbably 90% of the time drop my deer or animal were it lies. I have been very fortunate and very lucky. Yes i know it to. And i also know that a couple of my shots have been risky, but i made them....Please dont think of me irresponsable or In ethical. I dont always take or act that way. I will wait for a Good shot, the situation i gave was only one story. I am a very responsable and highly educated and overly alert hunter, Have lots of fun and am very cautious and very safe with my hunting and the people im hunting with. The last thing i want out in the field is for someone to get hurt or for an animal to be shot and not found.............................. --- Quote from: Wea300mag on September 28, 2007, 10:06:07 PM ---Coasthunter, The problem with your thinking is the probability of having wounded animals running around that will never be found is very high. --- End quote --- And yes the propability is higher but I am running very high statistics and with my record i am not afraid to take it. This is for everyone................. There is a point at which a hunter can go out into the field look at an animal, look at the situation handed before him. Think about all of it and think to himself. Can i make this shot? Do i feel comfortable with this? Look at the area around you and then decide. YES or NO. Etc......This will all come with time when you will be able to answer these questions.. I have been raised up to go through all of these questions and more from my grandfather and father since i was a little boy. And i have also been tought to do things in 100%. that meaning that if i am not confidant in a shot that i am about to make then i wont and i dont...trust me i have passed up my fair share ( mega *censored* tons) of shots because i thought the situation wasnt right........ most educated and experianced hunters now there limits..........what is your limit? Oh and i kill coyotes running at 4,5,6 hundred yards :chuckle: just joking. yeah i like running targets to :) ...................................AJ |
| tlbradford:
Coasthunter, your post have a lot of good points and a good understanding of the progressions in thinking you need to go through before you take a shot. However, your long range deer was a poor shot. If you estimated your target between 450 and 500 yards you would hold approximately 2' above your target depending on where your rifle is sighted in. Your bullet would drop another 4-5 feet when traveling the distance between 500 yards and 675 yards. You missed by 4'. Without a range finder and dope cards or a ballistics plex, I would caution against attempting a shot like that again. Personally, if the animal is unaware of my presence, I have adequate cover and an approach route, ample daylight, and the wind advantage, I will always try to close the distance. |
| boneaddict:
This could shape up to be as classic as the MM thread. Jackelope. I shoot a classic leopold 2x7 power. I switched over to a Simmons that went out to 20 power or some damn thing for the 25-06 for shooting yotes....but hated it. I put the ole leopold back on. Apparantly Idabooner liked this scope because it is on every rifle he and I own. :) That deer is mighy small out there at 500 yards. I still want a 50 cal to shoot coyotes out at 1,000 yards here in the Wenas, but I don't think Santa is every going to bring me one. :chuckle: Hey Slenk and Kirkl...if you look North and see a Red glow, its just me, and I finally go my Red flood lights in. I have 10-15 coyotes every night right at can't see anymore light right at my fence corner. If the game department weren't so fired up about trapping, I'd put a dozen snares out there. |
| actionshooter:
I have seen this subject debated on a lot of hunting sites and things can get a little hot. I will never say what is too far to shoot. This is a very indiviual situation. If you know your ballistics, weapon, optics and have practiced, unbelievable distance can be achieved. By practice I don't mean dusting off old reliable twice a year, I mean shooting hundreds of rounds a year (and not only off the bench). Here is my opinion. IF conditions are perfect, I have a rest, the wind is right, the shot is clear (no trees or brush) and the angle is not extreme. I will shoot to 600 yards. I have killed a buck at 557. I have also killed several animals (deer and bear) between 400-500 yards. I have never lost an animal that was shot from distance. I know my rifle (custom .300WM), I keep a ballistics chart taped to the stock. I have leupold scopes that are set up to shoot distance(3.5-10 tactical and 4.5-14 VX3s). I use a Leica rangefinder. Also I shoot more than most people do. I am very comfortable with how I have this set up. To a point I do agree that this is more shooting than hunting. I do not go specifically go looking for long shots but if the shot presents itself on a good animal and there is no way to close the distance, I am prepared. |
| high country:
hey bone, I have a 6.5-06 that is the cat's meow for 1k song dogs. bang..................................(it takes a bit to go that far)..............flop! |
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