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Reintroduce Jaguars to the United States
grundy53:
--- Quote from: Dan-o on June 15, 2021, 09:46:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: LDennis24 on June 15, 2021, 03:34:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: ducks4days on June 15, 2021, 02:32:25 PM ---Why do people have such a *censored* for reintroducing species which have been extirpated from places? How would this population survive without a continuously connected genetic group on the landscape? How would they fare competing with native predators such as wolves, cougars, and bears? Do they have the genetic memory to target wild prey and not focus on livestock?
Jaguars thrive in Central and South America, reintroducing them in the continental US would do a disservice both to the jaguars and to the continental US.
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I feel like you don't fully understand what kind of environment jaguars live in. And maybe you didn't read the whole article. They clearly would not be reintroducing them into areas that have wolves as that is not the right environment for them. Maybe they will cross paths with red wolves, and Arizona wolves, maybe not. What the article doesnt mention is that there is already a population of jaguars in the U.S. around the states bordering the gulf. People see them every so often. They have always been there. They would probably have ZERO problems establishing in area's like South Texas and Louisiana, Mississippi etc. All this whiny ranting over liberals wanting predators and blah blah blah about competing with other predators. Read a little more about it. They would most likely live where literally NO wolves live. Except for Arizona where jaguars are already found living in the same areas as wolves. There are very few cougars left in the South from the historical extermination attempts and bears are few in the South as well. If you consider yourself a true sportsman then you shouldn't mind helping out a species of animal that is endangered and giving up some areas for their benefit. I still agree with hound hunting cougars and bears. I agree with hunting wolves. I don't agree with exterminating an entire species from an area. Not helping them is a disservice to conservation which is what we as hunters should stand for. If your just into killing stuff with a gun go to a ranch somewhere and pay to shoot an ear tagged animal. I for one enjoy wildlife and the experience of seeing them in the wild acting naturally. Don't be greedy...
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I am 100% against it, and here is why:
Specifically, you don't understand the lying dirtbags behind reintroduction.
Remember wolves........ 15o wolves and 15 breeding pairs.
Oh wait.... we meant 300 wolves and 30 breeding pairs.
Oh wait..... We meant more than that, and will continually sue you for years while delaying delisting.
If wolf introduction taught me anything, it's that you can count on the reintro folks to lie like nobody's business.
I am not anti-wolf, but I am 100% against these dirtbags.
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Exactly
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zwickeyman:
--- Quote from: Dan-o on June 15, 2021, 09:46:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: LDennis24 on June 15, 2021, 03:34:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: ducks4days on June 15, 2021, 02:32:25 PM ---Why do people have such a *censored* for reintroducing species which have been extirpated from places? How would this population survive without a continuously connected genetic group on the landscape? How would they fare competing with native predators such as wolves, cougars, and bears? Do they have the genetic memory to target wild prey and not focus on livestock?
Jaguars thrive in Central and South America, reintroducing them in the continental US would do a disservice both to the jaguars and to the continental US.
--- End quote ---
I feel like you don't fully understand what kind of environment jaguars live in. And maybe you didn't read the whole article. They clearly would not be reintroducing them into areas that have wolves as that is not the right environment for them. Maybe they will cross paths with red wolves, and Arizona wolves, maybe not. What the article doesnt mention is that there is already a population of jaguars in the U.S. around the states bordering the gulf. People see them every so often. They have always been there. They would probably have ZERO problems establishing in area's like South Texas and Louisiana, Mississippi etc. All this whiny ranting over liberals wanting predators and blah blah blah about competing with other predators. Read a little more about it. They would most likely live where literally NO wolves live. Except for Arizona where jaguars are already found living in the same areas as wolves. There are very few cougars left in the South from the historical extermination attempts and bears are few in the South as well. If you consider yourself a true sportsman then you shouldn't mind helping out a species of animal that is endangered and giving up some areas for their benefit. I still agree with hound hunting cougars and bears. I agree with hunting wolves. I don't agree with exterminating an entire species from an area. Not helping them is a disservice to conservation which is what we as hunters should stand for. If your just into killing stuff with a gun go to a ranch somewhere and pay to shoot an ear tagged animal. I for one enjoy wildlife and the experience of seeing them in the wild acting naturally. Don't be greedy...
--- End quote ---
I am 100% against it, and here is why:
Specifically, you don't understand the lying dirtbags behind reintroduction.
Remember wolves........ 15o wolves and 15 breeding pairs.
Oh wait.... we meant 300 wolves and 30 breeding pairs.
Oh wait..... We meant more than that, and will continually sue you for years while delaying delisting.
If wolf introduction taught me anything, it's that you can count on the reintro folks to lie like nobody's business.
I am not anti-wolf, but I am 100% against these dirtbags.
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nwwanderer:
And they managed them so will, research machoB
trophyhunt:
NO
Mudman:
Let em do it.... They wont survive well in most of USA. Jags are not a Puma so to speak. IMOP of course.
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