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Reintroduce Jaguars to the United States
Karl Blanchard:
A lot of species were INTENTIONALLY extirpated from the landscape by man and those instances measures should be taken to return them to the landscape ie wolves and griz (as much as im not a fan of them). In instances where the changed landscape has forced their demise whether cause by man or not i see no reason to attempt to force it. Take that money and put it into other species or habitat restoration. Im not versed in jaguar knowledge to be able to make an educated choice one way or the other.
LDennis24:
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I say do it! I recall my great grandmother telling a story of when she was a little girl and her and her friends were followed home by a huge black puma near Ocala Florida. Obviously a Jaguar, but she said that they made it back ok and a few days later a farm hand was in the field and saw it burst out of the trees after a deer and run back into the thick brush after it saw him in the field. I think she said they ended up hunting it down for safety of the children.
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I hate to point this out but it was clearly a mountain lion not a Jaguar. There have been no jaguars in florid for a very very long time. The black “panther” of Florida is just a melanistic mountain lion. Other than that I see no problem with jaguars in the places mentioned. Texas probably has about every other species on the planet running around down there so what’s one more? :dunno:
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Actually it was clearly a Jaguar, the only cat known as a panther, that had traveled outside it's territory as she recalled also how it had the rosette pattern on its fur when they displayed it to everyone on the farm. She said another one was killed by some workers in Zephyrhills but it was regular colored. This was in the 30's and early 40's. Three S's applied, same with alligator and turtle meat. It was fair game to anyone. She said she saw snapping turtles three feet across all the time brought home by guys in the swamp. She is still alive and turning 100 this year.
Hey Ducks, when I said there were already populations in Arizona and that area I recalled reading an article that said they had tracked several that wander from Mexico into the area. I didn't realize that none of them stayed in that area. Like I stated. I did some more reading into it. I just don't think it makes sense to argue that all conservationists are bad conservationists etc. That's that mentally I was talking about, like all cops are bad cops. That's how that sounds. People who wanna help animals repopulate are not crooks and liars. Don't put everyone in the same category. Cops aren't all Derek Chauvins are they! This was simply an idea, that I thought, made sense to help them out. They were here once before, and it wouldn't hurt for them to be re-established in those areas. Like was mentioned, Texas has every other animal running around, why not have another native one?
bearpaw:
The problem with reintroductions is they always want to use it as a reason to close access and activities currently allowed, it's a tool that is widely used for this purpose, this is the primary reason I am opposed to most reintroductions! :twocents:
LDennis24:
--- Quote from: Karl Blanchard on June 16, 2021, 08:11:27 AM ---A lot of species were INTENTIONALLY extirpated from the landscape by man and those instances measures should be taken to return them to the landscape ie wolves and griz (as much as im not a fan of them). In instances where the changed landscape has forced their demise whether cause by man or not i see no reason to attempt to force it. Take that money and put it into other species or habitat restoration. Im not versed in jaguar knowledge to be able to make an educated choice one way or the other.
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:yeah:. I feel that the areas they would be in would be few and far between but they, like other species we help out, deserve to be given a second chance. I don't believe they would be so successful that it would be regrettable ten years from now like the wolves are! Lol I HATE wolves FYI... They belong in National parks and such but not all over the map. I feel the same way about the jaguar. They would do just fine in large open areas in Arizona and Texas and New Mexico. Maybe even the Boykin Springs and Sabine National Forest area of East Texas and Louisiana.
KFhunter:
I think they should resurrect wolly mammoths since our ancestors speared em all into oblivion
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