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2MANY:
I have a slow walking mountain horse that I occasionally have to pedal.
No bike.

guardian:
Whats the problem everyone seems to have with the pedal assist bikes? My wife and i are in our senior years now and would like to just ride on the closed roads. Why would anyone want to give up recreation opportunities on pubic land that we all pay taxes on. I dont get it. I agree with bbarnes who are these people and why not have a honest conversation about this. Seems like discrimination against persons with disabilities that just want to go for a ride in the woods.

fireweed:
Don't "official" signs need some type of RCW, WAC, etc reference?  I've known the USFS and wdfw to subvert the open public process on rules by falling back to the rules that says you have to obey signs.  WDFW does it all the time for camping: state law says camping is ok on WDFW land, but there is a rule you must follow "signs" so employees just go around with a staple gun and a stack of "don't do this' signs.  Could be the issue here.

CP:
The Forest Service defines a "motor vehicle"  as:

Any vehicle which is self-propelled, other than:

(1) A vehicle operated on rails; and

(2) Any wheelchair or mobility device, including one that is battery-powered, that is designed solely for use by a mobility-impaired person for locomotion, and that is suitable for use in an indoor pedestrian area.

ref 36 CFR § 212.1

So, we have different definitions and laws for Federal, State, County, some cities ...   SNAFU -

Platensek-po:

--- Quote from: guardian on June 28, 2022, 01:30:39 PM ---Whats the problem everyone seems to have with the pedal assist bikes? My wife and i are in our senior years now and would like to just ride on the closed roads. Why would anyone want to give up recreation opportunities on pubic land that we all pay taxes on. I dont get it. I agree with bbarnes who are these people and why not have a honest conversation about this. Seems like discrimination against persons with disabilities that just want to go for a ride in the woods.

--- End quote ---

What discrimination are you talking about? Do you have a disability that means you have to have a mobility scooter? If not then no discrimination. There are trails and roads where you can take motorized vehicles and some where you can’t. I don’t understand what’s so hard to understand about this?? Should every public land allow motorcycles and quads everywhere? Should we allow electric bikes everywhere? I don’t think so. You have the same right to access those public lands as anyone else. Just not with a motorized vehicle also like everyone else. These discussions are ridiculous. Just cause you paid a small fortune for an electric bike doesn’t mean you should get to take it everywhere.

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