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CP:
Similar to the WATV *censored* storm.  No WATVs on forest service roads!!

bbarnes:
I read the law in the state of Washington it says anything under 750 watch there’s a class 12 or three bicycle is not considered motorized I also read the law about disable to access on state lands in the state of Washington that was written by Annette Cleveland the senator people need to inform themselves about what the law says if we’re going to go back to primitive everybody should go get a piece of wouldn’t go back to their primitive archery now we’ve got guns that shoot over 1000 yards optics that look for miles cell phone game game cameras artificial sense tree stands the list goes on and on and on what I see as other people trying to keep other people out of the woods so they have the advantage and nobody else can harvest the wildlife it’s called selfishness there’s a lot of older people that just like going out and enjoying the forest nothings hurting the gravel roads they’re designed for log trucks and logging equipment ladder people on the side are starting to sound like the people that are running this country a bunch of crybabies

Platensek-po:

--- Quote from: bbarnes on June 29, 2022, 10:09:35 AM ---I read the law in the state of Washington it says anything under 750 watch there’s a class 12 or three bicycle is not considered motorized I also read the law about disable to access on state lands in the state of Washington that was written by Annette Cleveland the senator people need to inform themselves about what the law says if we’re going to go back to primitive everybody should go get a piece of wouldn’t go back to their primitive archery now we’ve got guns that shoot over 1000 yards optics that look for miles cell phone game game cameras artificial sense tree stands the list goes on and on and on what I see as other people trying to keep other people out of the woods so they have the advantage and nobody else can harvest the wildlife it’s called selfishness there’s a lot of older people that just like going out and enjoying the forest nothings hurting the gravel roads they’re designed for log trucks and logging equipment ladder people on the side are starting to sound like the people that are running this country a bunch of crybabies

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Who is trying to keep you out of the woods?? Can you only access the woods on a ebike??? There are places designated for motorized vehicles and places designated non motorized. I don’t see what the problem is with that? You sound like a crybaby asking to allow your motorized vehicle in lands that don’t allow motorized access. Why should evoked be given special treatment? Why do you need special access?? I agree that technology is advancing. It’s apparently advancing so much that a motor isn’t considered a motor anymore.

guardian:
I'm not sure how old some of these folks are that oppose pedal assist bikes, but it has nothing to do with the cost of the bikes. It has everything to do with still be able to get out enjoying the outdoors. We put our time in hiking miles riding horses riding peddle bikes behind closed gates for years probably longer than some of these folks on here have been alive. We're not young guns anymore. Thats one of the problems with society now days. We need to look out for each other, stay united instead of this selfishness. It seems there's no compromise anymore. Really a sad deal.

HighGrouseHunt:
I tend to agree that it's about selfishness, but in the other direction. There have been places that people could get away from motorized travel for a very long time, and folks had the opportunity to put in the miles on foot / horseback etc that you mentioned without feeling like they were competing against someone with a motor. The problem now, is that the very people who spent their entire hunting career putting in those miles on foot are out here saying "the motor on my bike actually isn't a motor because of xxx". Its like they wanted to be able to access these non-motorized areas when they were actually non-motorized, but now that they are older they still want to access them... just with a motor. To me that is having your cake and eating it too.

Just to be clear, where I live, motorized vehicles are allowed pretty much everywhere, and I would take an E-bike over an ATV or Dirt bike buzzing up one of those roads any day of the week. Have at it.  But when I hump miles into clearly designated non-motorized area to get away from the crowds and some dude comes gliding up on his E-bike; it chaps my a**.

I have also yet to see one of these "old timers" way in there. It is usually some completely healthy guy who just knows that if he uses an E-bike, he will have an advantage over all of the suckers who thought a motor still counted as a motor. 

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