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Cougeyes:
However, if one were to have that many points they may want to think about just putting in for one or the other cause if they draw both in one year they wont be able to harvest both, they will have to choose i'm sure.  This change is going to complicate the already complicated regulations and permits a lot more.  Going to be interesting, can't wait to read the public comments, like to grab a couple beers and read through them, they usually provide for quite a few laughs.

Cougeyes:
Is this only regarding deer and elk permits/categories or does this apply to all the OIL permits as well?

bobcat:
Isn't there three categories for both deer and elk? Quality, antlered, and antlerless? For deer I'm not sure what would go in just the regular buck category. Seems most, if not all, deer permits should be either quality or antlerless.

One thing I think they should do, but it's probably not possible, is when they do the draw, if someone is drawn for one category, say the quality deer, then they should automatically be disqualified from drawing any of the other two categories (regular buck and antlerless.) It makes no sense for a person to be able to draw two special permits and only have one tag. I realize there are some 2nd deer tag permits but I'm not talking about these.

Curly:

--- Quote from: bobcat on January 21, 2010, 08:14:04 PM ---One thing I think they should do, but it's probably not possible, is when they do the draw, if someone is drawn for one category, say the quality deer, then they should automatically be disqualified from drawing any of the other two categories (regular buck and antlerless.) It makes no sense for a person to be able to draw two special permits and only have one tag. I realize there are some 2nd deer tag permits but I'm not talking about these.
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That is a good idea..........and it probably is possilbe but it would take a bit more time to get the software setup correctly. 

I sure hope that if they do go to some form of what they are proposing that they wait until next year and take plenty of time to get the software programmed correctly and get all the bugs worked out..........I don't want to see redraws and re-redraws again.

Cougeyes:

--- Quote from: bobcat on January 21, 2010, 08:14:04 PM ---One thing I think they should do, but it's probably not possible, is when they do the draw, if someone is drawn for one category, say the quality deer, then they should automatically be disqualified from drawing any of the other two categories (regular buck and antlerless.) It makes no sense for a person to be able to draw two special permits and only have one tag. I realize there are some 2nd deer tag permits but I'm not talking about these.

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I agree, because if someone were to draw two permits of the same species, obviously they couldn't shoot two deer so would have to choose either the quality buck tag or the antlerless tag.  I like your point on disqualifying the person from being drawn for the other tag of the same species, that way it allows someone else to draw it. 

I think you're onto something (maybe), potentially helping odds for some people. .......say Tom, Joe, Sally, whomever... has been putting in for buck and doe permits, and has 4 points each, but would rather harvest a buck.  If there were a "disqualification" implemented then that would potentially make Tom only apply for the buck permit and not the doe permit (granted there will be separate applicatons for antlered and antlerless) because he doesn't want the risk of drawing the antlerless first and being disqualified for the buck tag, this may possibly increase the odds then for those that really want to draw an antlerless permit, i think it should be one or the other how it is now, your deer points are deer points (general) I dont like the idea of split antlered and antlerless applications and separate points for each, it will not help the odds.  Those people that really rely on antlerless permits (easier to draw tags) to put food on the table will now (hopefuly not) be faced with less odds of drawing. 

Also, there will be those people that will put in for antlerless tags now, say deer, hunt the general season for a buck and if they harvest a buck that antlerless permit goes to "waste", granted an unfilled tag is fine by me, but it could have gone to someone who maybe would have strictly hunted for antlerless game. 

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