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Permit Change
WAcoueshunter:
I don't see how we can know whether it will work or is a good idea...we basically have no information about the system, other than they're proposing to (1) divide the tags into eight pools (versus our current five), (2) give us points for each pool, and (3) allow us to apply for each pool. Do we know which hunts will be in which categories, and how many tags will be given for each? I'll wait to see the full proposal before I pass judgment either way.
bobcat:
I agree we don't know enough yet to know whether it's good or bad. I can't figure out what the regular buck permits will be. It seems they would either be antlerless, or quality. Since apparently they're proposing to have antlerless permits, buck permits, and quality permits. What will just the regular buck permits be? Anyway, yeah I don't think we know enough yet to pass judgement. One thing though, where is this "eight pools" coming from? It sounds to me like at least 19 pools altogether:
Deer:
1) buck permits, 2) antlerless permits, 3) second tag antlerless permits, 4) quality hunt permits, 5) youth hunt permits, 6) senior hunt permits, 7) disabled hunter permits, and 8] Master Hunter permits.
Elk:
1) bull permits, 2) antlerless permits, 3) second tag antlerless permits, 4) quality hunt permits, 5) youth hunt permits, 6) senior hunt permits, 7) disabled hunter permits, and 8] Master Hunter permits.
That's 16, then add in the moose, sheep, and mountain goat. That's 3 more, for a total of 19.
billythekidrock:
--- Quote from: bobcat on January 21, 2010, 08:14:04 PM ---Isn't there three categories for both deer and elk? Quality, antlered, and antlerless? For deer I'm not sure what would go in just the regular buck category. Seems most, if not all, deer permits should be either quality or antlerless.
One thing I think they should do, but it's probably not possible, is when they do the draw, if someone is drawn for one category, say the quality deer, then they should automatically be disqualified from drawing any of the other two categories (regular buck and antlerless.) It makes no sense for a person to be able to draw two special permits and only have one tag. I realize there are some 2nd deer tag permits but I'm not talking about these.
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From what I read..there are 8 categories for deer, 8 for elk. If you draw two permits then you get both but can only fill one. If you get skunked on a bull hunt then you could still take a cow if you were drawn for both.
Curly:
--- Quote from: bobcat on January 21, 2010, 11:05:40 PM ---I agree we don't know enough yet to know whether it's good or bad. I can't figure out what the regular buck permits will be. It seems they would either be antlerless, or quality. Since apparently they're proposing to have antlerless permits, buck permits, and quality permits. What will just the regular buck permits be? Anyway, yeah I don't think we know enough yet to pass judgement. One thing though, where is this "eight pools" coming from? It sounds to me like at least 19 pools
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I disagree. We already know enough to know that it is a bad idea. Just because we don't have the exact specifics on permit numbers doesn't mean that we don't have an idea of what they will be. I still think almost everyone will apply in every category they are eligible to apply for. If that is the case, the odds of drawing probably just got a lot worse for everyone.
The only odds that got better are the odds that WDFW will make more money on the draw. My initial reaction to the proposal was to say I'm done applying in this state because I was pissed, but now I realize I would only be hurting myself by not keeping up with everyone else.......it really sucks because of the added expense of permit application, but I guess that is the game we have to continue to play.
Curly:
Ok, for those that voted that they "like it" in this poll, what do you like about it? And how many points do you have now?
I would suspect that the ones saying that they like the proposal would be the ones with a lot of points since they will be given those points in all categories of that species that you have the points. The odds of drawing that tag you've been holding out for (entiat, swakane, desert, etc.) have just got worse or at the minimum they have stayed the same. So, I can't see why anyone would be for the proposed system unless they just like seeing WDFW make more money. ???
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