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Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination

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bearpaw:
Bigtex that certainly brings another piece of wood to the fire. Some officers are spending a lot of time with speeders and woodcutters. That doesn't seem quite right to me, I think wildlife dollars should be spent stopping poachers rather than worrying about wood permits and people breaking the speed limit in a speed zone, that's what other law enforcement agencies are for. :twocents:

Hangfire:
Illegal wood cutters are destroying habitat on our state owned property. DNR people are unable to do anything about it, according to a acquaintance with DNR, not enough enforcement people. The Pend Oreille county prosecuter told him, he is not going to get concerned about a little wood cutting. DFW may have a little more clout.

If you think DFW deserves closed and it can't get any worse, WAKE UP.  It can get a lot worse. It is a long way's from perfect now, but nothing like it could be.

wolfbait:

--- Quote from: Hangfire on February 13, 2010, 07:04:17 AM ---Illegal wood cutters are destroying habitat on our state owned property. DNR people are unable to do anything about it, according to a acquaintance with DNR, not enough enforcement people. The Pend Oreille county prosecuter told him, he is not going to get concerned about a little wood cutting. DFW may have a little more clout.

If you think DFW deserves closed and it can't get any worse, WAKE UP.  It can get a lot worse. It is a long way's from perfect now, but nothing like it could be.

--- End quote ---

Most wood cutters cut wood along the roads, (illegal wood cutters are destroying habitat) I don't really see your point. The WDFW put the wolves as endangered in Washington, the planting of wolves started in Washington before the YNP. I believe with WDFW running the show your hunting will soon be replaced with wildlife viewing. Maybe its time to try something new.

Shootmoore:

--- Quote from: Hangfire on February 13, 2010, 07:04:17 AM ---Illegal wood cutters are destroying habitat on our state owned property. DNR people are unable to do anything about it, according to a acquaintance with DNR, not enough enforcement people. The Pend Oreille county prosecuter told him, he is not going to get concerned about a little wood cutting. DFW may have a little more clout.

If you think DFW deserves closed and it can't get any worse, WAKE UP.  It can get a lot worse. It is a long way's from perfect now, but nothing like it could be.

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Unfortunately your correct in that the Prosecuter's do not take wood theft seriously, unfortunately they do not take wildlife violations very serious either.  Our SO handles a lot of woodtheft cases as there is only one DNR enforcement guy in the area for 3 counties.  They do not take the cases any more serious from us than they do from DNR.  WDFW is in the same boat now with game violations.  I take both seriously but I can somewhat understand the ideology from the Prosecutor at least here.  We swamp them with 1000's of cases a year and in the end it comes down to man hours and court space available and a triage of cases where the most serious take importance.

I don't think shutting down WDFW is the answer what I would like to see is it get back to the business of management of abundance and while its important to protect other species get back to supporting game management as in days of old.

Shootmoore

bigtex:

--- Quote from: bearpaw on February 12, 2010, 10:17:07 PM ---Bigtex that certainly brings another piece of wood to the fire. Some officers are spending a lot of time with speeders and woodcutters. That doesn't seem quite right to me, I think wildlife dollars should be spent stopping poachers rather than worrying about wood permits and people breaking the speed limit in a speed zone, that's what other law enforcement agencies are for. :twocents:

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Well actually one of DFW officers main duties are to enforce laws that are known as special forest products which are things like salaal, mushroom, fern pickers and wood cutters. This is mainly because it is a natural resource law. Last year after the Natural Resource Reform ideas went thru one of the final outcome regarding enforcement was that WDFW officers assist DNR officers in more wood cutting cases because DNR officers are spread so thin.

Right now WDFW officers are actually limited by agency policy as to how much traffic enforcement they do. No WDFW officer has a radar gun for speed enforcement however there are some that pull over for other traffic violations. I know some WDFW officers who say they will only do a traffic stop if it is a dangerous situation such as DUI or agressive driving, but there are other WDFW officers who say they are police officer with a Fish/Wildlife emphasis however they will do a traffic stop if there is a law violation

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