Post by: Swannytheswan on July 09, 2012, 09:48:41 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 09, 2012, 09:50:12 PM
I am in the market for a new rifle. Don't have to much to spend but could probably go up to $500 without optics. I am not married to a caliber but need something to take down bear or elk. Probably will be using it most for bear as I bowhunt for elk and deer. I just want to see what ya'll recommend.
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338 Federal, not the 338 win mag.
Post by: wraithen on July 09, 2012, 10:04:40 PM
Post by: Carl on July 09, 2012, 10:12:45 PM
Post by: huntnphool on July 09, 2012, 10:15:04 PM
Post by: dc on July 09, 2012, 10:25:51 PM
Dave 360-431-9588
Post by: bobcat on July 09, 2012, 10:30:10 PM
I have a Ruger 7mm in the classifieds with a 3x9 burris multi plex scope. $350.00.
Dave 360-431-9588
That would be perfect for what you're looking for, and the price is right. The scope is decent too so there wouldn't be a need to change anything.
If you buy new, I was going to recommend getting a 30/06 in maybe a Savage 110 or a Weatherby Vanguard.
Post by: sebek556 on July 09, 2012, 10:30:48 PM
Post by: mossback636 on July 09, 2012, 10:31:09 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 09, 2012, 11:44:24 PM
Post by: Swannytheswan on July 10, 2012, 12:09:48 AM
:puke: Tikka...
Why don't you like tikka...I have only heard good things so I am curious?
Post by: Elk whack master on July 10, 2012, 12:42:30 AM
Post by: fish vacuum on July 10, 2012, 12:49:11 AM
If you buy new, I was going to recommend getting a 30/06 in maybe a Savage 110
You beat me to it. 30-06 and Savage. Done.
Post by: Slenk on July 10, 2012, 05:58:34 AM
:tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:If you buy new, I was going to recommend getting a 30/06 in maybe a Savage 110
You beat me to it. 30-06 and Savage. Done.
Priced right and with a great customer service.
Post by: C-Money on July 10, 2012, 06:22:42 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on July 10, 2012, 06:32:26 AM
Post by: GoldTip on July 10, 2012, 06:34:53 AM
Post by: rasbo on July 10, 2012, 06:38:45 AM
Post by: brokenvet on July 10, 2012, 06:57:52 AM
That would be perfect for what you're looking for, and the price is right. The scope is decent too so there wouldn't be a need to change anything.
If you buy new, I was going to recommend getting a 30/06 in maybe a Savage 110 or a Weatherby Vanguard.
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Great choice here and if you get tired of the 30.06, the Savage 100 is designed so that the average Joe can replace the barrel out in the field into a different caliber. MidwayUSA has barrels in different calibers for $134.99 and up.
Post by: Huntbear on July 10, 2012, 07:00:01 AM
I am in the market for a new rifle. Don't have to much to spend but could probably go up to $500 without optics. I am not married to a caliber but need something to take down bear or elk. Probably will be using it most for bear as I bowhunt for elk and deer. I just want to see what ya'll recommend.
Some questions first off...
How well do you handle recoil? Do you have any kids that may use this rifle as a beginner hunting weapon? Do you reload? Do you want an ulralight type weapon or no problems carrying around a 10 lb. gun by the time you get scope and ammo included?? Do you hunt east or west side????
7mm-08 up to a 338 WM will work.... Personally, I like short action stuff. So any caliber based off the .308 Win. or any of the Short Mags would be my choice..
Personally for a 300 yard and less gun, you can not beat the .338 Federal. You want more range, jump up to a 300 Win. Short Mag... Still a short action, less weight to carry, and will get the job done.
Post by: jackmaster on July 10, 2012, 07:00:24 AM
Post by: Special T on July 10, 2012, 07:21:54 AM
Post by: Swannytheswan on July 10, 2012, 08:42:56 PM
I am in the market for a new rifle. Don't have to much to spend but could probably go up to $500 without optics. I am not married to a caliber but need something to take down bear or elk. Probably will be using it most for bear as I bowhunt for elk and deer. I just want to see what ya'll recommend.
Some questions first off...
How well do you handle recoil? Do you have any kids that may use this rifle as a beginner hunting weapon? Do you reload? Do you want an ulralight type weapon or no problems carrying around a 10 lb. gun by the time you get scope and ammo included?? Do you hunt east or west side????
7mm-08 up to a 338 WM will work.... Personally, I like short action stuff. So any caliber based off the .308 Win. or any of the Short Mags would be my choice..
Personally for a 300 yard and less gun, you can not beat the .338 Federal. You want more range, jump up to a 300 Win. Short Mag... Still a short action, less weight to carry, and will get the job done.
well the biggest recoil I have shot is a .300WSM and it was fine I only have one other rifle right now and it is a 30-30, no kids, don't reload, don't care to much about weight and I will be hunting mostly wetside....
Post by: cedarriver on July 10, 2012, 08:50:14 PM
Post by: Huntbear on July 10, 2012, 08:55:30 PM
Post by: ellensburgpo on July 10, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
270 or 30-06, people buy these great big caliber guns to kill bear, well you dont need to, just learn how to shoot your animal properly...... read all about jack oconner, killed everything with a 270 and i mean everything that a fella can hunt
270, 30/06, 308. They are boring, but they get the job done. Ammo is cheap and readily available. I've had great luck with Weatherby vanguards and ruger m77 mark 2's which can be head cheap. Kinda Like a ford truck, nothing fancy, but gets the job done.
If youre feeling frisky try a Weatherby vanguard in 257 Weatherby mag. Ammo would be a more expensive but a very capable gun. Most new guns from big company's are pretty darned good. Kinda have to go out if your way to get a crappy rifle anymore.
Post by: akashasdaddy on July 10, 2012, 09:05:48 PM
Post by: skybusterbo on July 10, 2012, 09:19:59 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 10, 2012, 09:32:32 PM
:puke: Tikka...
Why don't you like tikka...I have only heard good things so I am curious?
He is just messed up. Don't mind him :chuckle:
You will hear only a couple things bad about the tikka's the stock and the clip. Flat out they are the best shooting gun around the 500 mark out there. We have 5 of them and every one shoot's lights out. I have been around 30+ of them and they are all great guns. If you don't like the stock buy a after market one, there is a lot popping up now days.
I would say the one all around gun I would go with is a 270 wsm. I am a big fan, I never thought I would be but I really love them. Will kill anything that walk around here.
Post by: Swannytheswan on July 10, 2012, 09:37:42 PM
:puke: Tikka...
Why don't you like tikka...I have only heard good things so I am curious?
He is just messed up. Don't mind him :chuckle:
You will hear only a couple things bad about the tikka's the stock and the clip. Flat out they are the best shooting gun around the 500 mark out there. We have 5 of them and every one shoot's lights out. I have been around 30+ of them and they are all great guns. If you don't like the stock buy a after market one, there is a lot popping up now days.
I would say the one all around gun I would go with is a 270 wsm. I am a big fan, I never thought I would be but I really love them. Will kill anything that walk around here.
Thats what I thought...
Post by: jaymark6655 on July 10, 2012, 10:10:49 PM
Post by: snowshoes22 on July 10, 2012, 10:28:41 PM
Post by: jrebel on July 10, 2012, 11:35:24 PM
Post by: Swannytheswan on July 10, 2012, 11:44:51 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 10, 2012, 11:56:35 PM
:puke: Tikka...
Why don't you like tikka...I have only heard good things so I am curious?
He is just messed up. Don't mind him :chuckle:
You will hear only a couple things bad about the tikka's the stock and the clip. Flat out they are the best shooting gun around the 500 mark out there. We have 5 of them and every one shoot's lights out. I have been around 30+ of them and they are all great guns. If you don't like the stock buy a after market one, there is a lot popping up now days.
I would say the one all around gun I would go with is a 270 wsm. I am a big fan, I never thought I would be but I really love them. Will kill anything that walk around here.
I guess the saying,
" One mans trash is another mans treasure"
That applies to Tikka owners. :chuckle:
Post by: Swannytheswan on July 11, 2012, 12:48:09 AM
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 11, 2012, 08:54:41 AM
Crap fit and feel, trinket stock, crap ejection port that requires complete removal of the magazine to correct any malfunction. The magazine design is a train wreck, blah , blah , blah.
One of those issues is a capital offense when it comes to firearm. To each their own, a Tikka doesn't even ride in my trucks. I'll seat belt a wet lab straight out of the river on a leather passenger seat before I'd let a Tikka slide around in the bed of my truck for a day and that's no joke.
Post by: wraithen on July 11, 2012, 01:30:08 PM
Here's a quick run down for you but remember it doesn't matter to me what you hump through the woods.
Crap fit and feel, trinket stock, crap ejection port that requires complete removal of the magazine to correct any malfunction. The magazine design is a train wreck, blah , blah , blah.
One of those issues is a capital offense when it comes to firearm. To each their own, a Tikka doesn't even ride in my trucks. I'll seat belt a wet lab straight out of the river on a leather passenger seat before I'd let a Tikka slide around in the bed of my truck for a day and that's no joke.
To be fair, and while I do respect his opinions pretty highly when it comes to firearms, but bigger can impulse buy things that I have to budget for half a year. If he buys a 700 that just isn't good enough, he can afford to make it a tack driver or experiment with it and not care a hole lot. I vote for the savage though. You can tinker with it far more easily. It's not very accrurate? Throw a ne barrel on it! Trigger too heavy? Adjust it! Etc. Plus you can get a decent combo withh scope brand new for under 500.
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 11, 2012, 01:39:02 PM
Post by: Holg3107 on July 11, 2012, 01:45:27 PM
Post by: MikeWalking on July 11, 2012, 01:47:15 PM
Remington Buckmaster SPS w/Nikon Buckmaster 3-9x with a BDC, Butler Creek pop up covers (the front is problematic) Limbsaver, padded sling w/ammo loops. I don't have pics.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-buckmaster.aspx (http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-buckmaster.aspx)
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 11, 2012, 04:50:53 PM
:puke: Tikka...
Why don't you like tikka...I have only heard good things so I am curious?
He is just messed up. Don't mind him :chuckle:
You will hear only a couple things bad about the tikka's the stock and the clip. Flat out they are the best shooting gun around the 500 mark out there. We have 5 of them and every one shoot's lights out. I have been around 30+ of them and they are all great guns. If you don't like the stock buy a after market one, there is a lot popping up now days.
I would say the one all around gun I would go with is a 270 wsm. I am a big fan, I never thought I would be but I really love them. Will kill anything that walk around here.
I guess the saying,
" One mans trash is another mans treasure"
That applies to Tikka owners. :chuckle:
Now you are making me laugh! Kinda like the xmd right? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Whats the most important thing? How do they shoot? :tup: We have never had any problems with our 5 and out of the probably 100+ people on this site that own them. I have yet to hear of a problem, or see any problems in any of my friends, family, oh and clients guns :tup:
I will give you that the stock is no manners or mcmillian. Still fits good enough to shoot 1/2"-3/4" in all my guns. for 500.00 what do you get. A great shooting gun and a cheaper stock and clip that still shoots lights out.
To each there own :tup:
Post by: Curly on July 11, 2012, 04:57:05 PM
Here (http://www.davidsonsinc.com/consumers/subsites/inven_product.asp?dealer_id=409680&item=XL7-3006&instock=all&manufact_combo=Marlin&mod_ser_combo=None&category_combo=None&model=None&g_type=Rifle&act_type=&finish_type=None&calib_combo=30-06&sight_class_combo=None&price_range=None&left_handed=&youth=&Offset_rec=0& num_rec=50&item_num=) is a Marlin X7 on sale for $332. That seems like a great price to me.
Post by: Huntbear on July 11, 2012, 05:06:19 PM
:puke: Tikka...
Why don't you like tikka...I have only heard good things so I am curious?
He is just messed up. Don't mind him :chuckle:
You will hear only a couple things bad about the tikka's the stock and the clip. Flat out they are the best shooting gun around the 500 mark out there. We have 5 of them and every one shoot's lights out. I have been around 30+ of them and they are all great guns. If you don't like the stock buy a after market one, there is a lot popping up now days.
I would say the one all around gun I would go with is a 270 wsm. I am a big fan, I never thought I would be but I really love them. Will kill anything that walk around here.
I guess the saying,
" One mans trash is another mans treasure"
That applies to Tikka owners. :chuckle:
Now you are making me laugh! Kinda like the xmd right? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Whats the most important thing? How do they shoot? :tup: We have never had any problems with our 5 and out of the probably 100+ people on this site that own them. I have yet to hear of a problem, or see any problems in any of my friends, family, oh and clients guns :tup:
I will give you that the stock is no manners or mcmillian. Still fits good enough to shoot 1/2"-3/4" in all my guns. for 500.00 what do you get. A great shooting gun and a cheaper stock and clip that still shoots lights out.
To each there own :tup:
Says Tikka, but is made in Sako Factory... A very accurate AFFORDABLE gun for the working stiff.... I want at least a couple in my safe before I am done....
Post by: Curly on July 11, 2012, 05:22:43 PM
If you wanted to be really unique, you could get it in 30TC and have a cartridge that almost nobody else has..............but a 30-06 would probably be a wiser choice. Who knows how long 30TC will be around.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 11, 2012, 05:47:08 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 11, 2012, 05:52:20 PM
Post by: Curly on July 11, 2012, 06:16:09 PM
The venture just had some recalls if I remember right.
I'm sure they've got them all squared away by now.
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"Thompson Center Venture Rifles manufactured prior to October 28, 2011."Link (http://www.lsonews.com/component/content/article/17-products/1873-the-outdoor-wire)
Post by: coachcw on July 11, 2012, 07:03:10 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 11, 2012, 07:56:01 PM
sako for the money , the 300wsm with 180 accubonds will be hard to beat for a one gun dude . for a lil less I like the t3s i have one that shoot well and hasn't had any issues ejecting shells?
That's because you haven't shot that piece of crap Tikka enough, thats due to your inner self telling you it's crap and you have been listening but just didn't know it. :chuckle:
Post by: Swannytheswan on July 11, 2012, 09:25:26 PM
Savage or Remington in a .308, you can almost buy ammo anywhere, it has almost the same performance as 30-06, and is a short action rather than a long action.
What are the advantages of short action over a long... are there any?
Post by: deerslyr on July 11, 2012, 09:35:22 PM
Savage or Remington in a .308, you can almost buy ammo anywhere, it has almost the same performance as 30-06, and is a short action rather than a long action.
What are the advantages of short action over a long... are there any?
Weight
Post by: jaymark6655 on July 11, 2012, 09:37:46 PM
Post by: Swannytheswan on July 11, 2012, 09:46:01 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 11, 2012, 09:48:31 PM
Post by: FC on July 11, 2012, 10:10:36 PM
If one is concerned about weight, even 4-6 more pounds. Then they better lay of the twinkies, Ho-Ho's and Ding-Dongs! If ones worried about the pack weight of a rifle, then maybe one should consider shooting smaller animals so there is not as much to pack out. :chuckle:
I disagree with this sentiment.
I bought my tikka due to it's light weight, accuracy guarantee and price point. The fact that it fit well was an added bonus, the oversize palm swell makes it confidence inspiring to shoot due to the very natural feeling grip.
I have heavy rifles and they spent the majority of the time slung on my shoulder, my tikka spends 99% of the time in my hands; much closer to my shoulder and much quicker to fire. The stock is ugly for sure but it fits the barreled action and me well, it's accuracy has been nothing short of stunning. I've never had a feed or ejection problem and I have never seen one, the magazine design is extremely simple and seems to function without fail. I even use the factory rings that everyone says (that doesn't own a tikka) won't work without issue.
I was dubious initially but after carrying and shooting mine I am sold on the t3's, mine shoots sissy ammo (factory bullets) into 3/8" groups; pretty tough to complain about that!
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 11, 2012, 10:26:17 PM
Post by: MikeWalking on July 12, 2012, 01:29:48 AM
Marlin 45/70 xlr......OH yeah, you are on a budget :dunno: Don't count out the 45/70 as a great west side gun. It will take deer, bear and elk with no problem. If you shop around you can find some used guide guns for fairly cheap. I personally like the XLR as it has the longer barel and it is a 300 yard gun all day long with the leverevolution bullets. It is a lever gun which you are familiar with beings that you have a 30-30. Fast follow up shots and not alot of recoil either. :tup:
Ah another Marlin fan...got an 1895 LTD III Have you looked at the Happy Trigger kit from Wild West Guns in Anchorage? I wont own a Marlin lever gun without one.
Post by: MikeWalking on July 12, 2012, 01:30:52 AM
If one is concerned about weight, even 4-6 more pounds. Then they better lay of the twinkies, Ho-Ho's and Ding-Dongs! :chuckle:
That's why I pack heavy :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Swannytheswan on July 12, 2012, 02:45:43 AM
Marlin 45/70 xlr......OH yeah, you are on a budget :dunno: Don't count out the 45/70 as a great west side gun. It will take deer, bear and elk with no problem. If you shop around you can find some used guide guns for fairly cheap. I personally like the XLR as it has the longer barel and it is a 300 yard gun all day long with the leverevolution bullets. It is a lever gun which you are familiar with beings that you have a 30-30. Fast follow up shots and not alot of recoil either. :tup:
Ah another Marlin fan...got an 1895 LTD III Have you looked at the Happy Trigger kit from Wild West Guns in Anchorage? I wont own a Marlin lever gun without one.
I've been looking at that trigger kit for a while I just need to go ahead an pull the trigger on it :chuckle: :chuckle:.....sorry couldn't help it
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 12, 2012, 06:54:27 AM
Marlin 45/70 xlr......OH yeah, you are on a budget :dunno: Don't count out the 45/70 as a great west side gun. It will take deer, bear and elk with no problem. If you shop around you can find some used guide guns for fairly cheap. I personally like the XLR as it has the longer barel and it is a 300 yard gun all day long with the leverevolution bullets. It is a lever gun which you are familiar with beings that you have a 30-30. Fast follow up shots and not alot of recoil either. :tup:
Ah another Marlin fan...got an 1895 LTD III Have you looked at the Happy Trigger kit from Wild West Guns in Anchorage? I wont own a Marlin lever gun without one.
Thanks for the trigger info, I'm not into lever gun real big. I know a good deal when I see it though, a couple weeks a go I picked up a Winchester 30-30 and a 1895 G in 45-70 as a package deal.
Post by: jackmaster on July 12, 2012, 07:02:49 AM
Post by: Huntbear on July 12, 2012, 07:05:27 AM
Post by: huntnphool on July 12, 2012, 10:54:54 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 12, 2012, 11:40:42 AM
Just adjust your trigger from 6# to 3#, then you can pack a heavier rifle. :rolleyes:that's amazing! Pure genius... :chuckle:
Post by: magnanimous_j on July 12, 2012, 03:29:11 PM
:puke: Tikka...
Why don't you like tikka...I have only heard good things so I am curious?
Just from what I've seen him post on this site, he must have at least a hundred grand sunk into guns. And with all that top shelf gear, here is a modest little rifle that's accessible for the majority of sportsmen and is much more than adequate to perform the hunting functions for which it was built.
It's the same reason that Ferrari owners hate the Nissan GTR.
Post by: Special T on July 12, 2012, 04:18:59 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 12, 2012, 04:40:37 PM
Post by: huntnphool on July 12, 2012, 05:28:02 PM
Thats not saying much, they hate all the other brands.It's the same reason that Ferrari owners hate the Nissan GTR.:puke: Tikka...Why don't you like tikka...I have only heard good things so I am curious?
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 13, 2012, 12:13:44 AM
:puke: Tikka...
Why don't you like tikka...I have only heard good things so I am curious?
Just from what I've seen him post on this site, he must have at least a hundred grand sunk into guns. And with all that top shelf gear, here is a modest little rifle that's accessible for the majority of sportsmen and is much more than adequate to perform the hunting functions for which it was built.
It's the same reason that Ferrari owners hate the Nissan GTR.
Screw a Ferrari, I want the machines that are making them! :tup: There is a BIGGER picture. :chuckle:
Post by: Fishaholic on July 13, 2012, 05:53:10 PM