Post by: Dan-o on July 25, 2012, 08:19:56 AM
Pretty much narrowed down to these two calibers.
Why would I pick the 300 over the 7MM?
Thanks!
Post by: D-Rock425 on July 25, 2012, 08:25:28 AM
Post by: JohnVH on July 25, 2012, 08:32:03 AM
Post by: Huntbear on July 25, 2012, 08:32:57 AM
I shoot a .338 WM now..
Post by: Hyde on July 25, 2012, 08:34:38 AM
Post by: bobcat on July 25, 2012, 08:36:02 AM
Post by: C-Money on July 25, 2012, 08:38:26 AM
Post by: Curly on July 25, 2012, 09:48:58 AM
Why would I pick the 300 over the 7MM?
Pick the 300 over the 7 if you want a slightly bigger hole in your game and don't mind slightly more recoil.
I had decided to get a new rifle years ago and came to the same two choices as you. I ended up going with the .300WM only because I found a rifle in .300WM that I couldn't pass-up. If that same rifle would have been chambered in 7mm mag, I would have gotten it.
Post by: Dan-o on July 25, 2012, 10:28:18 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 25, 2012, 10:32:52 AM
Post by: bearpaw on July 25, 2012, 10:38:37 AM
Post by: Huntbear on July 25, 2012, 10:43:34 AM
Getting a new rifle for deer and elk.
Pretty much narrowed down to these two calibers.
Why would I pick the 300 over the 7MM?
Thanks!
Can I ask what your thought process was to narrow down to these two calibers????
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on July 25, 2012, 10:56:00 AM
The 7mm is the largest cartridge that made Chuck Hawks All Around Rifle Cartridge list.... primarily due to recoil. http://www.chuckhawks.com/all_around_cartridges.htm (http://www.chuckhawks.com/all_around_cartridges.htm)
If you truly prefer a .30 caliber...then go with the .300.... you won't be disappointed...again... ultimately the difference is negligible.
Post by: Dan-o on July 25, 2012, 11:20:59 AM
Getting a new rifle for deer and elk.
Pretty much narrowed down to these two calibers.
Why would I pick the 300 over the 7MM?
Thanks!
I'm too old to shoot hifallutin' calbers like 300 WSM, and I like the ballistics of these two. I've been a 7MM mag guy my whole life. Just contemplating a change.....
Can I ask what your thought process was to narrow down to these two calibers????
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 25, 2012, 11:21:08 AM
If you've been running a 7mm Magnum, no need to change now. Unless you just want another rifle. :tup: :tup: :tup: A .300 Win mag in elk country is about as AMERICAN as it gets. I can care less how that clown O'Connor felt about it.
Post by: jyerxa on July 25, 2012, 11:42:21 AM
Post by: Curly on July 25, 2012, 01:14:45 PM
I saw not to long ago RBros was messing with basically the same thing. I can't recall what his was labeled, mine is the 7.21 SAGE.
Rbros is called the 7mm Rogue (http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/6646734/2) :drool:
Post by: Bean Counter on July 25, 2012, 01:25:20 PM
Getting a new rifle for deer and elk.
Pretty much narrowed down to these two calibers.
Why would I pick the 300 over the 7MM?
Thanks!
+1
Can I ask what your thought process was to narrow down to these two calibers????
Post by: 6x6in6 on July 25, 2012, 01:32:49 PM
My 30+ year hunting partner is a 300 fan.
We both have 2 each.
Neither one of us have ever had an issue with animals hitting the dirt.
Flip a coin......
Post by: rbros on July 25, 2012, 03:01:57 PM
I enjoy the two so much, I crossed the two with a custom reamer I had done, it is bases on the .300 Win Mag case necked down to 7mm, less body taper, shoulder angle change and neck dimension lengthened and a "Secret Squirrel" throat. I saw not to long ago RBros was messing with basically the same thing. I can't recall what his was labeled, mine is the 7.21 SAGE.
Interesting....is that why you asked PTG for my reamer print after my original post?
The 7RM built properly will outshoot the 300WM in longrange. In most hunting distances it really is a wash. The 7RM has less recoil, the 300WM makes a bigger hole. Take whichever you get the best deal on.
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 25, 2012, 04:51:33 PM
I enjoy the two so much, I crossed the two with a custom reamer I had done, it is bases on the .300 Win Mag case necked down to 7mm, less body taper, shoulder angle change and neck dimension lengthened and a "Secret Squirrel" throat. I saw not to long ago RBros was messing with basically the same thing. I can't recall what his was labeled, mine is the 7.21 SAGE.
Interesting....is that why you asked PTG for my reamer print after my original post?
The 7RM built properly will outshoot the 300WM in longrange. In most hunting distances it really is a wash. The 7RM has less recoil, the 300WM makes a bigger hole. Take whichever you get the best deal on.
I was doing the math on the throat, asked for several wildcat reamer throat dimensions. Your targeting the 180's VLD's. I was looking for a happy medium to work with the 160 Acccubond as my first choice and possibly the 180's. Besides the 6.5-284 Neck is a perfect length and one doesn't need one longer. Other than the throat, your knocking on the Mashburns door, kind of like a Bill Alexander thing. :chuckle:
Post by: rbros on July 25, 2012, 06:22:36 PM
Post by: Bofire on July 25, 2012, 06:44:55 PM
either will kill any animal in North America handily, I will never bad mouth a guy hunting with a 7mm however I shoot a 300.
Carl
Post by: Biggerhammer on July 25, 2012, 06:54:40 PM
It's close to a mashburn but more capacity. The neck is different along with our throat design. I played with the mashburn a lot and the data it provided helped design my case. Trust me, it's definitely not a copy of the mashburn. The throat design also has a patent pending on it. Part of the reason it's proprietary.
In the eyes of the reamer builders " Proprietary " is a simple is saying " Proprietary " and POW! Proprietary is typed right there on the reamer print. It's fun to play with different cartridges and bullet diameters. Angles, throats and such but in the big picture, it has been done so much by so many that many are close to another or performs so close to other Chamberings that the difference doesn't really matter. But then again we wouldn't have horse races if everyone had the same horse, what fun would it be on the big firearms track if we were all running the same chit.
Post by: Alchase on July 26, 2012, 12:47:50 PM
More places, have more 300 win mag options.
Both are great calibers, buy one of each
:tup:
Post by: Dan-o on July 26, 2012, 01:42:41 PM
I decided to just buy another 7MM so that I don't have to keep track of yet another caliber in the safe.
Happy shooting to all!
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on July 26, 2012, 01:46:24 PM
Post by: Dan-o on July 26, 2012, 04:31:57 PM
I think you will be happy with that for sure. Which one are you going with?
Savage 111 combo with the Nikon BDC 3X9.
Nothing too fancy, but hey, I'm a working man.