Post by: Kowsrule30 on August 06, 2012, 12:30:39 PM
Post by: CP on August 06, 2012, 12:42:39 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 06, 2012, 12:49:01 PM
Post by: jrebel on August 06, 2012, 12:57:15 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 06, 2012, 12:57:26 PM
The military generally wants their issued weapons back. I知 not saying this is the case but $500 is a lot to pay for stolen gun.
Load of crap! You have no clue of the actual circumstance of his possession of the firearm. Trust me if they were looking for him or the handgun, they would have gotten it by now. If your missing even a single set of arctic gloves when you leave the military. Your going to know about it, I sure did. Squared away and paid in full like right now.
Calling it a stolen firearm is shimmying your arse out on a long thin branch.
So I guess my uncle would have to return his 1911 he lifted off a "Dink" he put in the dirt in 69 during Vietnam. Because that 1911 was issued to someone???
Post by: DoubleJ on August 06, 2012, 12:59:25 PM
Post by: h20hunter on August 06, 2012, 01:00:17 PM
Regarding the "other" concerns I don't know anythign about that to offer an opion.
Post by: Kowsrule30 on August 06, 2012, 01:00:42 PM
The military generally wants their issued weapons back. I知 not saying this is the case but $500 is a lot to pay for stolen gun.
Not sure on ranking but my Dad got to keep his sidearm from Nam.... And I seriously doubt this guy has had many squables with illegal circumstances imo.....
The gun is in 75-80% condition imo.....
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 06, 2012, 01:02:35 PM
The military generally wants their issued weapons back. I知 not saying this is the case but $500 is a lot to pay for stolen gun.
Not sure on ranking but my Dad got to keep his sidearm from Nam....
So did mine, he was a "Cambat controller" in the Airforce and he kept his sidearm. Along with a pile of tiger stripe. :tup:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on August 06, 2012, 01:10:12 PM
The military generally wants their issued weapons back. I知 not saying this is the case but $500 is a lot to pay for stolen gun.
In the case of the .45 ACP, when the military switched to 9mm they began to dispose of the .45 ACPs. From what I heard they were available to the civilian market if you knew the individual supply/armorer.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on August 06, 2012, 01:11:12 PM
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Sounds like a divorce to me....I wouldn't worry too much about kicking him in the nuts. They probably hurt already! :chuckle:
Post by: Special T on August 06, 2012, 01:51:19 PM
Post by: MadHatter on August 06, 2012, 01:57:55 PM
Is it a model 70 ? Mine's worth about $900 in 85 % condition. Nobody will know it's stolen until you transfer it out of his name. Make him go with you to do that, if he says no, don't buy it if you don't want it.
Why would you do a transfer? Just do a bill of sale and be done with it. There is no registration in our state, meaning its not in anyones name, and there is no law that says a pistol on your DOL report has to be in your possession. There is no reason to spend the money for a transfer when buying private party...
Sent from my sniper hide...
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 06, 2012, 02:09:44 PM
\Is it a model 70 ? Mine's worth about $900 in 85 % condition. Nobody will know it's stolen until you transfer it out of his name. Make him go with you to do that, if he says no, don't buy it if you don't want it.
Why would you do a transfer? Just do a bill of sale and be done with it. There is no registration in our state, meaning its not in anyones name, and there is no law that says a pistol on your DOL report has to be in your possession. There is no reason to spend the money for a transfer when buying private party...
Sent from my sniper hide...
I wouldn't transfer it. But you know how the internet, do-gooder, wanna be ethical police are on this forum. :tup:
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 06, 2012, 03:22:32 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 06, 2012, 03:34:58 PM
Screw transferring jack! >:(
I never transfer anything, unless it's new.
Post by: MadHatter on August 06, 2012, 03:49:46 PM
\Is it a model 70 ? Mine's worth about $900 in 85 % condition. Nobody will know it's stolen until you transfer it out of his name. Make him go with you to do that, if he says no, don't buy it if you don't want it.
Why would you do a transfer? Just do a bill of sale and be done with it. There is no registration in our state, meaning its not in anyones name, and there is no law that says a pistol on your DOL report has to be in your possession. There is no reason to spend the money for a transfer when buying private party...
Sent from my sniper hide...
I wouldn't transfer it. But you know how the internet, do-gooder, wanna be ethical police are on this forum. :tup:
Hey I hear ya there...just wanted to make sure the OP didn't think it was manditory :tup:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 06, 2012, 03:51:40 PM
\Is it a model 70 ? Mine's worth about $900 in 85 % condition. Nobody will know it's stolen until you transfer it out of his name. Make him go with you to do that, if he says no, don't buy it if you don't want it.
Why would you do a transfer? Just do a bill of sale and be done with it. There is no registration in our state, meaning its not in anyones name, and there is no law that says a pistol on your DOL report has to be in your possession. There is no reason to spend the money for a transfer when buying private party...
Sent from my sniper hide...
I wouldn't transfer it. But you know how the internet, do-gooder, wanna be ethical police are on this forum. :tup:
Hey I hear ya there...just wanted to make sure the OP didn't think it was manditory :tup:
10-4
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 06, 2012, 03:57:41 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 06, 2012, 04:07:30 PM
Post by: MadHatter on August 06, 2012, 04:13:20 PM
I highly (HIGHLY) doubt its stolen, but if the OP is worried about it the best way is a bill of sale with the sellers signature that he legally possessed the firearm, that it is not stolen or used in a crime. I would snatch it up for that price and enjoy it...
Sent from my sniper hide...
Post by: Bofire on August 06, 2012, 07:13:25 PM
Buy that gun a treasure it as a piece of American History!!!
Carl
Post by: FC on August 06, 2012, 08:36:19 PM
LE are not supposed to release that info to you... ACCESS, which governs the data here in WA, forbids releasing that info to non-LE. When I worked for a dispatch center people would call in and ask for all sorts of silly stuff like that for cars, guns, computers... The list goes on...
I highly (HIGHLY) doubt its stolen, but if the OP is worried about it the best way is a bill of sale with the sellers signature that he legally possessed the firearm, that it is not stolen or used in a crime. I would snatch it up for that price and enjoy it...
Sent from my sniper hide...
I've done it for a couple of guns and while one told me (without my asking) they had no way of telling me if it had been used in a crime or not but they made no complaint over informing me whether or not it was reported as stolen.
Why would LE not inform you on whether or not a gun was stolen? That makes no sense at all unless their goal is to promote the sale of stolen property. :twocents:
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 06, 2012, 08:44:53 PM
LE are not supposed to release that info to you... ACCESS, which governs the data here in WA, forbids releasing that info to non-LE. When I worked for a dispatch center people would call in and ask for all sorts of silly stuff like that for cars, guns, computers... The list goes on...
I highly (HIGHLY) doubt its stolen, but if the OP is worried about it the best way is a bill of sale with the sellers signature that he legally possessed the firearm, that it is not stolen or used in a crime. I would snatch it up for that price and enjoy it...
Sent from my sniper hide...
I've done it for a couple of guns and while one told me (without my asking) they had no way of telling me if it had been used in a crime or not but they made no complaint over informing me whether or not it was reported as stolen.
Why would LE not inform you on whether or not a gun was stolen? That makes no sense at all unless their goal is to promote the sale of stolen property. :twocents:
If you were to call the sherrifs office in Douglas Co and ask them to run serial numbers they would laugh you off the phone and go back to whatever they were doing.
Post by: FC on August 06, 2012, 10:38:01 PM
If you were to call the sherrifs office in Douglas Co and ask them to run serial numbers they would laugh you off the phone and go back to whatever they were doing.
Why is that? The only one I have called for this was King county.
Post by: MadHatter on August 07, 2012, 05:37:53 AM
LE are not supposed to release that info to you... ACCESS, which governs the data here in WA, forbids releasing that info to non-LE. When I worked for a dispatch center people would call in and ask for all sorts of silly stuff like that for cars, guns, computers... The list goes on...
I highly (HIGHLY) doubt its stolen, but if the OP is worried about it the best way is a bill of sale with the sellers signature that he legally possessed the firearm, that it is not stolen or used in a crime. I would snatch it up for that price and enjoy it...
Sent from my sniper hide...
I've done it for a couple of guns and while one told me (without my asking) they had no way of telling me if it had been used in a crime or not but they made no complaint over informing me whether or not it was reported as stolen.
Why would LE not inform you on whether or not a gun was stolen? That makes no sense at all unless their goal is to promote the sale of stolen property. :twocents:
Because it is against the rules for them to release anything they run in ACCESS. What they run is the serial number, it will come back either "No Record" meaning its not entered into NCIC/WACIC as a stolen weapon. There could technically be a stolen report on it, but it slipped through the cracks on entry... I've seen it happen. The only other return would be a stolen entry.
While I get the premise of "who else can tell you..." I get why ACCESS has the rules they do... It not about promoting the sale of stolen property, its about following the rules you agreed to when you signed an agreement with WSP and the FBI on how you can disseminate the information.
There would be no way for them to yr ell you if it was used in a crime...
Post by: FC on August 07, 2012, 08:34:42 AM
There would be no way for them to yr ell you if it was used in a crime...
Obviously...
As to the rest, it still makes zero sense to not tell people whether or not there is a report of theft but it probably does create more criminals ultimately.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 07, 2012, 09:12:38 AM
It may be a case of each individual departments policy as to what or how much they will do.
Also, I am someone who has had 5 weapons stolen by break-in over the course of 30+ years. I had serial numbers for each weapon and I have YET to have one come back.
I am fairly certain that they have changed hands over the course of that time at least once, if someone would have taken the effort to to make a call, maybe I would have one or two back by now.
Post by: Special T on August 07, 2012, 10:08:18 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 07, 2012, 11:05:52 AM
Post by: Bofire on August 07, 2012, 03:52:28 PM
Carl
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 07, 2012, 04:21:27 PM
What I was told is the cops do not want to release info but if you know where it is, and it comes up stolen, they will seize it. :dunno:
Carl
Now days more often that not, certain departments don't do jack. Unless there is some type of revenue involved.
Post by: Blacklab on August 07, 2012, 07:02:55 PM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on August 08, 2012, 03:32:47 PM
Now the agreement with my wife that she informed me of after getting home was I now can't go bear hunting for another week or make that $550 back.... :chuckle: A little pissed.... Had a bear hunt set for this evening with her Uncle and a buddy...... Figures.... :chuckle: Just posted a bunch of crap on CL so should only take a day or two after I scrap this car in the am I'll be halfway there!!!!
Post by: h20hunter on August 08, 2012, 03:34:15 PM
Post by: h20hunter on August 08, 2012, 03:34:56 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 08, 2012, 03:36:36 PM
Post by: Blackjaw on August 09, 2012, 06:23:28 AM