Is this a decent deal on a Colt 1911 .45?

[CAMPMEAT]

Screw transferring jack! 

I never transfer anything, unless it's new.

[MadHatter]

Is it a model 70 ? Mine's worth about $900 in 85 % condition. Nobody will know it's stolen until you transfer it out of his name. Make him go with you to do that, if he says no, don't buy it if you don't want it.

Why would you do a transfer? Just do a bill of sale and be done with it.  There is no registration in our state, meaning its not in anyones name, and there is no law that says a pistol on your DOL report has to be in your possession.  There is no reason to spend the money for a transfer when buying private party...

Sent from my sniper hide...

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I wouldn't transfer it. But you know how the internet, do-gooder, wanna be ethical police are on this forum. 

Hey I hear ya there...just wanted to make sure the OP didn't think it was manditory

[CAMPMEAT]

Is it a model 70 ? Mine's worth about $900 in 85 % condition. Nobody will know it's stolen until you transfer it out of his name. Make him go with you to do that, if he says no, don't buy it if you don't want it.

Why would you do a transfer? Just do a bill of sale and be done with it.  There is no registration in our state, meaning its not in anyones name, and there is no law that says a pistol on your DOL report has to be in your possession.  There is no reason to spend the money for a transfer when buying private party...

Sent from my sniper hide...

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I wouldn't transfer it. But you know how the internet, do-gooder, wanna be ethical police are on this forum. 

Hey I hear ya there...just wanted to make sure the OP didn't think it was manditory

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[BULLBLASTER]

Call the sheriff with the serial # and they can tell you if it was reported stolen or suspected of being used in a crime. If that checks.out clear pay the man and walk away with your new gun. That's what I have done while buying used guns from people I don't know. Actually prefer to bug that way... 

[CAMPMEAT]

If you call the cops to check on a gun and it comes back stolen, neither will have the gun. They take it.

[MadHatter]

LE are not supposed to release that info to you... ACCESS, which governs the data here in WA, forbids releasing that info to non-LE.  When I worked for a dispatch center people would call in and ask for all sorts of silly stuff like that for cars, guns, computers... The list goes on...

I highly (HIGHLY) doubt its stolen, but if the OP is worried about it the best way is a bill of sale with the sellers signature that he legally possessed the firearm, that it is not stolen or used in a crime.  I would snatch it up for that price and enjoy it...

Sent from my sniper hide...

[Bofire]

In pre liberal puke days many guys got to keep items from the service they performed, sometimes a purchase was involved sometimes not. My oldest Brother Lee got to keep his 45 and a helmet dented from stopping a piece of shrapnel while patrolling the Korean DMZ in 1959. I don't know what the rules are now.
Buy that gun a treasure it as a piece of American History!!!
Carl

[FC]

LE are not supposed to release that info to you... ACCESS, which governs the data here in WA, forbids releasing that info to non-LE.  When I worked for a dispatch center people would call in and ask for all sorts of silly stuff like that for cars, guns, computers... The list goes on...

I highly (HIGHLY) doubt its stolen, but if the OP is worried about it the best way is a bill of sale with the sellers signature that he legally possessed the firearm, that it is not stolen or used in a crime.  I would snatch it up for that price and enjoy it...

Sent from my sniper hide...

I've done it for a couple of guns and while one told me (without my asking) they had no way of telling me  if it had been used in a crime or not but they made no complaint over informing me whether or not it was reported as stolen.

Why would LE not inform you on whether or not a gun was stolen? That makes no sense at all unless their goal is to promote the sale of stolen property. 

[Biggerhammer]

LE are not supposed to release that info to you... ACCESS, which governs the data here in WA, forbids releasing that info to non-LE.  When I worked for a dispatch center people would call in and ask for all sorts of silly stuff like that for cars, guns, computers... The list goes on...

I highly (HIGHLY) doubt its stolen, but if the OP is worried about it the best way is a bill of sale with the sellers signature that he legally possessed the firearm, that it is not stolen or used in a crime.  I would snatch it up for that price and enjoy it...

Sent from my sniper hide...

I've done it for a couple of guns and while one told me (without my asking) they had no way of telling me  if it had been used in a crime or not but they made no complaint over informing me whether or not it was reported as stolen.

Why would LE not inform you on whether or not a gun was stolen? That makes no sense at all unless their goal is to promote the sale of stolen property. 

If you were to call the sherrifs office in Douglas Co and ask them to run serial numbers they would laugh you off the phone and go back to whatever they were doing.

[FC]

If you were to call the sherrifs office in Douglas Co and ask them to run serial numbers they would laugh you off the phone and go back to whatever they were doing.

Why is that? The only one I have called for this was King county.

[MadHatter]

LE are not supposed to release that info to you... ACCESS, which governs the data here in WA, forbids releasing that info to non-LE.  When I worked for a dispatch center people would call in and ask for all sorts of silly stuff like that for cars, guns, computers... The list goes on...

I highly (HIGHLY) doubt its stolen, but if the OP is worried about it the best way is a bill of sale with the sellers signature that he legally possessed the firearm, that it is not stolen or used in a crime.  I would snatch it up for that price and enjoy it...

Sent from my sniper hide...

I've done it for a couple of guns and while one told me (without my asking) they had no way of telling me  if it had been used in a crime or not but they made no complaint over informing me whether or not it was reported as stolen. 

Why would LE not inform you on whether or not a gun was stolen? That makes no sense at all unless their goal is to promote the sale of stolen property. 

Because it is against the rules for them to release anything they run in ACCESS.   What they run is the serial number, it will come back either "No Record" meaning its not entered into NCIC/WACIC as a stolen weapon.  There could technically be a stolen report on it, but it slipped through the cracks on entry... I've seen it happen.  The only other return would be a stolen entry.

While I get the premise of "who else can tell you..." I get why ACCESS has the rules they do... It not about promoting the sale of stolen property, its about following the rules you agreed to when you signed an agreement with WSP and the FBI on how you can disseminate the information. 

There would be no way for them to yr ell you if it was used in a crime...

[FC]

There would be no way for them to yr ell you if it was used in a crime...

Obviously...

As to the rest, it still makes zero sense to not tell people whether or not there is a report of theft but it probably does create more criminals ultimately.

[Blacktail Sniper]

I was curious about this issue, so I contacted the Thurston Co Sheriff's office yesterday.  Today I received a reply saying if I forwarded the weapons information, they would gladly check to make sure it is not stolen. 

It may be a case of each individual departments policy as to what or how much they will do. 

Also, I am someone who has had 5 weapons stolen by break-in over the course of 30+ years.   I had serial numbers for each weapon and I have YET to have one come back. 

I am fairly certain that they have changed hands over the course of that time at least once, if someone would have taken the effort to to make a call, maybe I would have one or two back by now.

[Special T]

I was told by sevearl LEO's that BTS you are the exception to the rule. MOST stolen firearms DO NOT have a listing of thier serial numbers as as such are not trackable even if stolen. 

[CAMPMEAT]

I bought a new Ruger 338 17 years ago in the box from a friend. I went to trade it in on a new 300 RUM 5 years ago. It came back stolen from the year before I traded it in. I had that gun for 12 years. It was stolen out of a guys pickup that had ran into his house to get something before he left for elk hunting. I told the cops it was impossible that happened as I had the gun for 12 years before hand. The cops took the gun, end of story. Insurance scam. Why would a guy wait 12 years to report a stolen gun ? The gun shop wanted me to pay for both guns. I didn't do it, so I got the 300 RUM for half price.