Post by: Kola16 on August 10, 2012, 03:57:05 PM
I say 4-5, but hope sooner.
Post by: Special T on August 10, 2012, 04:12:16 PM
Post by: Humptulips on August 10, 2012, 04:21:52 PM
They have to get into the southern Cascades and possibly SW WA. I'm thinking three years for that. Then they have to document breeding pairs, couple more years for that. Then three years of watching them increase while the three year period to delisting pass. Then I think there will be some stalling but there will be so many problems on the east side I don't think lawsuits will get much traction. I'm going to put my money on 10 years.
Post by: Kola16 on August 10, 2012, 04:25:49 PM
I think you are way optimistic.
I'm going to put my money on 10 years.
I am always optimistic :chuckle:
And I will collect the money, just send it to me :chuckle:
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 10, 2012, 04:26:23 PM
Post by: Special T on August 10, 2012, 04:29:20 PM
Post by: JohnVH on August 10, 2012, 04:49:58 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 10, 2012, 04:55:51 PM
not soon enough! now, back to coyote hunting!
yep, them yotes are getting big in some parts of the state??? :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: CedarPants on August 10, 2012, 06:12:47 PM
I saaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy.........................as soon as they are de-listed in any of the 300 GMU's. :tup:
:tup:
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on August 10, 2012, 06:16:25 PM
Post by: Kola16 on August 10, 2012, 08:10:30 PM
Post by: 6x6in6 on August 10, 2012, 08:18:41 PM
I'm with SpecialT on this one. 3-4 years, we will be there. The stupid a$$ Bellevue and Seattle dollars will flow and the litigation will tie it up for a couple years while they sit perched in their little trophy house having never set foot in the areas affected by wolves.
PETA, Western Washington style....... :rolleyes:
Post by: Kowsrule30 on August 10, 2012, 10:30:06 PM
I think you will see them delisted in 2-3 years and then the lawsuits will start. amkind them about 6 years out. :twocents:
Same thing I was thinking... I voted 6-7 years but's it's probably more like 10-12....
Post by: fair-chase on August 10, 2012, 10:42:04 PM
Post by: Birddogman on August 11, 2012, 07:51:06 AM
Post by: buckfvr on August 11, 2012, 08:00:13 AM
Its the whole Puget Sound Basin, not just King county......
Post by: CedarPants on August 11, 2012, 08:07:20 AM
For residents.
Double that for nonresidents.
They'll be delisted, there will be lawsuits, and then we'll be allowed to hunt them. And we're silly if we think WDFW isn't already looking into exactly how much they think they can get away with charging us for to hunt them :twocents:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 11, 2012, 08:14:32 AM
Post by: bearpaw on August 11, 2012, 08:33:55 AM
There aren't as many wolf lovers as everyone thinks there are. Once wolf problems escalate, I think the silent majority will take the side for managing wolves. There may not be a season for sport hunting statewide, but I bet they come up with a system somewhat like the cougar damage hunts that are still being used in areas with cougar problems.
I voted 4-5 years, I think wolves will get delisted in WA and I think the state is going to be forced to deal with wolves or some counties will do it and for that reason it will happen. In a few years something is going to have to happen in Stevens County one way or the other. The WDFW can either get on board with some responsible management or the people here will find a way to control wolves.
There have been a time in the past when the county nearly adopted their own wildlife management. WDFW wants to keep control, I am confident they will find a way to manage wolves in some manner.
Post by: buckfvr on August 11, 2012, 09:02:18 AM
Post by: coachcw on August 11, 2012, 09:22:08 AM
Post by: Slenk on August 11, 2012, 09:57:46 AM
Jion up with north Idaho and Montana. All one State. :twocents:
Post by: Special T on August 11, 2012, 10:01:24 AM
Post by: seth30 on August 11, 2012, 10:57:43 AM
Post by: CedarPants on August 11, 2012, 12:47:29 PM
Maybe eastern washington needs to secede from Olympia.
Jion up with north Idaho and Montana. All one State. :twocents:
We'd have to put that to a state vote, and we all know how that goes
Post by: Slenk on August 11, 2012, 12:53:10 PM
Maybe eastern washington needs to secede from Olympia.Just don't let the wet side vote on it. :hello:
Jion up with north Idaho and Montana. All one State. :twocents:
We'd have to put that to a state vote, and we all know how that goes
Post by: bearpaw on August 11, 2012, 07:06:38 PM
It's time for the tribes to impliment some managent if youknow what i mean :tup:
I think the Colville's plan to in Ferry & Okanogan.... :tup:
Post by: Ridgerunner on August 11, 2012, 07:20:47 PM
Post by: WA hunter14 on August 11, 2012, 07:28:06 PM
Maybe eastern washington needs to secede from Olympia.
Jion up with north Idaho and Montana. All one State. :twocents:
- spokane, and that would fix alot of problems
Post by: Kola16 on August 11, 2012, 09:06:11 PM
Ten to fifteen years you guys are way too optimistic
No, I think that you are just to pessimistic :chuckle:
And I think that the idea of having seperate counties, controlling there wolf problems would be awesome. If the majority of people in King county want them, then dump them in King county. Let the wolves run through Olympia, and see how they like.
Post by: bearpaw on August 11, 2012, 09:24:05 PM
Ten to fifteen years you guys are way too optimistic
No, I think that you are just to pessimistic :chuckle:
And I think that the idea of having seperate counties, controlling there wolf problems would be awesome. If the majority of people in King county want them, then dump them in King county. Let the wolves run through Olympia, and see how they like.
:tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: Give the people in each county exactly what they want. :chuckle:
Post by: sebek556 on August 11, 2012, 11:16:13 PM
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on August 11, 2012, 11:22:17 PM
I am a nay sayer and voted for never, look at what the state has done to bear and cougar hunting. Then look at all the other states that have gone through the process, outside sources sue as soon as hunting is even mentioned. Add that with the brain dead idiots in king county with lots of money, you will have no hunting period. wolves will wipe out the game, and run the country side, hunting will be shut down and the department of fish and wildlife will transform into a animal control unit to take care of problem animals. While those of us that can cry, pack our stuff and move. I have heard the chatter of the anti's and they think this is a way to end hunting forever, bring all the predator populations up, and then game populations will fall to the point where they have to close down hunting, once this happens the predator populations will drop and everything will stabilize with nothing for man to take. :bash: :bash: pay attention guys if we don't make our stand along with the cattlemen this very well could happen.
I hate to say it, but in this left wing ass state I could see it going that way. If the east side could split into a seperate state I would be moving, but as it sits the I-5 corridor runs politics for the rest of the state.
Post by: rebal69972 on August 12, 2012, 12:21:53 AM
Post by: KyleMB123 on August 12, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
If a wolf is shot in the woods but nobody is around to see it...was a crime committed?
Post by: mtman on August 14, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Post by: KFhunter on August 15, 2012, 07:05:52 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 15, 2012, 07:30:52 PM
Post by: mulehunter on August 15, 2012, 07:36:16 PM
Post by: fair-chase on August 15, 2012, 08:00:43 PM
Post by: SpringerFan on August 15, 2012, 10:44:30 PM
Ten to fifteen years you guys are way too optimistic
No, I think that you are just to pessimistic :chuckle:
And I think that the idea of having seperate counties, controlling there wolf problems would be awesome. If the majority of people in King county want them, then dump them in King county. Let the wolves run through Olympia, and see how they like.
I am in King County and hate this crap. If I could make the money I do on the wetside we would move in in a heartbeat.
You may think most in King county want them, but the people I know do not. Now, the politicians and WDFW may want them. But if we could get a real movement to get rid of the Dems it would be so different......
Ok rant over. Already know there have been sightings up in Skagit........time to be silent and quick.
Hate to say it, but if the lawmakers can't get it right, we should.
Post by: Kola16 on August 15, 2012, 11:06:50 PM
Already know there have been sightings up in Skagit........time to be silent and quick.
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