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Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: bearpaw on August 11, 2012, 07:33:10 PM
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http://www.bluemountaineagle.com/news/state_national/wolf-kill-fails-to-placate-washington-rancher/article_f9b7ebce-e264-11e1-811c-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=print (http://www.bluemountaineagle.com/news/state_national/wolf-kill-fails-to-placate-washington-rancher/article_f9b7ebce-e264-11e1-811c-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=print)
Wolf kill fails to placate Washington rancher
By Matthew Weaver East Oregonian Publishing Group
The decision by state wildlife officials to kill a wolf that had been attacking livestock in northeastern Washington is too little, too late, says the rancher who has suffered losses there since 2007.
The state Department of Fish and Wildlife this week killed a nonbreeding female wolf from the so-called Wedge Wolf Pack, officials said. They were unsuccessful in an attempt to kill a second wolf.
Nate Pamplin, assistant director with the department, said at least four adults and several pups make up the pack.
The department took action after a series of wolf attacks on the Diamond M herd dating back to two calves that were killed in 2007. Department officials also cited higher-than-normal calf losses and documented wolf activity around the calving operation. An adjacent ranch had wolf problems at its calving operation this spring, Pamplin said.
Diamond M ranch owner Len McIrvin, of Laurier, Wash., said he remains skeptical of the department's actions and would only believe it when he saw a dead wolf.
"They distort facts so much, they've lied to us continually on this thing," he said. "First they said there was no wolves in the area. We showed them that there was. Then they said there might be wolves, but they'll never eat a cow. We showed them that they did."
McIrvin said wolf activity has been escalating. Last year 11 calves and five bulls were killed, he said. He will tally how many have been killed this year in the fall.
"We know we've had two kills. We know we've had four other calves attacked and severely wounded," he said.
McIrvin said there's no way to protect against wolves on the rough, big timber country range, where he runs roughly 300 pairs of cattle.
McIrvin owns a lot of the area and has state Department of Natural Resources leases and U.S. Forest Service grazing permits in the area.
McIrvin said he's seen wolves in the area. Cowboys coming in after dark with horses have wolves following within several hundred yards, howling.
"You can't see them, but you can hear them all the time," McIrvin said. He has a kill permit for depredation if wolves are caught in the act, but said there's little chance of meeting that requirement.
The environmental organization Conservation Northwest released a statement questioning whether McIrvin made a "good faith effort" to reduce the risk of conflict between wolves and his livestock.
"It's unclear in this case whether the right livestock stewardship steps have first been tried to reduce conflict potential," Mitch Friedman, Conservation Northwest executive director, said in the statement. "If we expect wolves to behave, ranchers need to meet them halfway."
According to the department, state efforts include specialized electric fencing, attaching a radio collar to the pack's alpha male and maintaining a regular human presence in the area.
The ranch employs five cowboys to frequently check on the herd.
Pamplin said the state is implementing its wolf conservation and management plan and committed to working with livestock operators to protect their livestock and minimize impacts.
The department will evaluate its options and continue to monitor the wolf pack's movement and any further depredations.
Under the state's wolf plan, ranchers receive compensation for two animals for a confirmed wolf kill and compensation for one cow for a probable wolf kill, Pamplin said.
McIrvin said his losses are so heavy, including lower weight gain and a lower conception rate, that the only compensation he's interested in is a dead wolf for every dead calf.
"This isn't a wolf problem, we always could take care of our own problems," he said. "It's an agency regulatory problem (with) threats of imprisonment and fines."
McIrvin expects the wolves to spread.
"This is our problem today, but in three years it's going to be every cattleman's problem," he said.
Matthew Weaver is a writer for the Salem-based Capital Press.
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Idiot statement of the week---"if we expect wolves to behave, ranchers need to meet them halfway". Absolutely delusional!!!! F-Ing morons!!! :bash: :bash: :bash:
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This isn't a wolf problem, we always could take care of our own problems," he said. "It's an agency regulatory problem (with) threats of imprisonment and fines."
That is the reason why this hasn't been handled yet!
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Cowboys and ranchers shot the wolves back in the old days for a reason. And that is the only solution to wolves, there is no living with them unless there made into a pelt and hung on the wall.
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Cowboys and ranchers shot the wolves back in the old days for a reason. And that is the only solution to wolves, there is no living with them unless there made into a pelt and hung on the wall.
They are shooting them in ID/MT on a year around basis again now. Don't shoot me, I'm just reporting the facts, but I do expect that to happen in WA in coming years.
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I know that, but a couple states shooting a few wolves isnt going to stop the wolf problem. I foresee the west having wolf problems for along time.
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I know that, but a couple states shooting a few wolves isnt going to stop the wolf problem. I foresee the west having wolf problems for along time.
There are more wolves being killed in the last few years than any of us know because people simply decided that government wasn't getting the job done. I cannot and do not participate in such activities, but I hear about it all the time throughout ID/MT.
But I agree, wolves are a serious problem that will affect us for years. :tup:
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This must be what they refer to as "shoot, shovel, and shut up" :dunno:
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Bingo
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glad to see that the news paper gave the rancher a fare shake with the report, if it would of been a seattle article it would of been that he is some dumb redneck that lets his cows wander where ever they want and now is complaining cause he lost one, and he should move out of the wolves area. :bash: :bash:
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I know that, but a couple states shooting a few wolves isnt going to stop the wolf problem. I foresee the west having wolf problems for along time.
There are more wolves being killed in the last few years than any of us know because people simply decided that government wasn't getting the job done. I cannot and do not participate in such activities, but I hear about it all the time throughout ID/MT.
But I agree, wolves are a serious problem that will affect us for years. :tup:
With the snail pace this government runs at unfortunately SSS will be the only way that the wolf problem is solved. I normally would not advocate breaking the law, but when the govenment becomes tone deaf to the citizen you are lighting a fuse which will result in an extreme explosion of the populace becoming disenfranchinsed with an out of touch government.
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this very well could be the final nail in the coffin that will separate the state. Once ranchers are hurting bad enough, other farmers will feel the pain as well, hay for feed as well as corn and other feed crops will experience price drops. then local jobs will follow due to no one having any money. It has been talked about seriously before this just might be what sets it off.
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Conservation Northwest can only get their heads up to their shoulders, too bad they can't fit their entire body in the orifice up to their feet. These people need to be dealt with to make them understand what idiots they are !!!!!!!!!! They sit in their multimillion dollar funded office and make idiotic statements they know nothing about except what is told to them by other idiots !!!!
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deleted my last post - didn't want to give anyone any ideas :chuckle:
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deleted my last post - didn't want to give anyone any ideas :chuckle:
.................now that's funny right there, I don't care who you work for. :tup:
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hey, i think we should ENCOURAGE wolves to prey on livestock. why? well, if all of our wolves are eating livestock, theyll leave all the elk, moose, deer etc alone. So how bout we start pumping livestock killing wolves full of fertility drugs so theyll populate range areas faster and teach their young to eat cattle instead of game animals, thus helping us meet the number of documented packs required to open a hunting season. then all we will have to do is wade through all the deer and elk to set up on cow pastures to kill wolves. ya know, i have so many good ideas its a shame im not the one in charge. maybe i should run for office. guess i wont get the rancher vote tho