Post by: DoubleJ on August 17, 2012, 10:21:29 AM
Post by: jaymark6655 on August 17, 2012, 10:26:48 AM
Post by: Bofire on August 17, 2012, 10:27:01 AM
Carl
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on August 17, 2012, 10:28:35 AM
How much would a gunsmith charge to port the barrel on my .308? I want to lessen the recoil for one of my sons.
I don't think porting will lessen the recoil. The chunk of lead will accelerate from 0 to 2800fps before it reaches the ports. Only real way to lessen the recoil is to go to a lighter bullet. :twocents:
Post by: Holg3107 on August 17, 2012, 10:32:50 AM
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I don't think porting will lessen the recoil. The chunk of lead will accelerate from 0 to 2800fps before it reaches the ports. Only real way to lessen the recoil is to go to a lighter bullet.
Completely false. That's the main point of adding a muzzle brake is reduced recoil.
I agree with jaymark. Have your barrel threaded for a brake instead of barrel porting. Lots of guys on here have em and can give you a better idea of price.
Post by: Huntbear on August 17, 2012, 10:35:36 AM
QuoteI don't think porting will lessen the recoil. The chunk of lead will accelerate from 0 to 2800fps before it reaches the ports. Only real way to lessen the recoil is to go to a lighter bullet.
Completely false. That's the main point of adding a muzzle brake is reduced recoil.
I agree with jaymark. Have your barrel threaded for a brake instead of barrel porting. Lots of guys on here have em and can give you a better idea of price.
:yeah: :yeah:
Muzzle break will be the cost of the brake, and about 100.00 to thread your barrel and install it.... most of the 100.00 is set up time for the lathe, because that is what takes all the time..
Post by: jess on August 17, 2012, 10:43:19 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on August 17, 2012, 11:13:13 AM
a couple hundred bucks.. Well worth it! I have a break on my 300 ultra mag and shoot 210 grain bullets and it kicks like a 308... So a 308 with like 168 grain bullets should kick like a 22-250..
Exactly what I want.
Huntbear, PM sent
Post by: Huntbear on August 17, 2012, 11:22:31 AM
a couple hundred bucks.. Well worth it! I have a break on my 300 ultra mag and shoot 210 grain bullets and it kicks like a 308... So a 308 with like 168 grain bullets should kick like a 22-250..
Exactly what I want.
Huntbear, PM sent
PM returned...
I know a good Vais break and a good recoil pad tamed my brothers .338 WM down to less than 30.06 type recoil.. it is a real *censored* cat now... it is a left handed bolt and I shoot it right handed with no issues...
Post by: DoubleJ on August 17, 2012, 11:27:08 AM
Also have a Pachmyr pad on it already
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on August 17, 2012, 12:15:21 PM
It's a Savage .308 but most of the styles I'm seeing are for an AR. Will these work? Anyone have any recommendations? $50 or less would be ideal.
Also have a Pachmyr pad on it already
I only addressed the porting issue. Yes, a muzzle break will decrease recoil, but you will have to thread your barrel for one. The AR-10 style of break will work, but the .308 threads are 5/8", and the breaks for .223 AR-15 barrels are 1/2" thread. If you have someone thread your barrel, make sure the lathe indexes to the BORE, and not the outside of the barrel. They are not the same!
Post by: Alchase on August 17, 2012, 12:56:53 PM
Federal Fusion™ .308 Win. 170 Gr. Low Recoil Ammo
before you put out the money for a Break.
Keep in mind a Break will radically increase the loudness of the shot as well as reduce the recoil.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/federal-fusion-308-win-170-gr-low-recoil-ammo-20-rds.aspx?a=286527&bi=141567 (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/federal-fusion-308-win-170-gr-low-recoil-ammo-20-rds.aspx?a=286527&bi=141567)
Post by: DoubleJ on August 17, 2012, 01:00:06 PM
You could try
Federal Fusion™ .308 Win. 170 Gr. Low Recoil Ammo
before you put out the money for a Break.
Keep in mind a Break will radically increase the loudness of the shot as well as reduce the recoil.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/federal-fusion-308-win-170-gr-low-recoil-ammo-20-rds.aspx?a=286527&bi=141567 (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/federal-fusion-308-win-170-gr-low-recoil-ammo-20-rds.aspx?a=286527&bi=141567)
Tried the fusions and the remmington reduced recoil rounds and the gun hates both of them. Won't shoot groups at all and I won't buy anymore.
Post by: Alchase on August 17, 2012, 01:35:36 PM
You could try
Federal Fusion™ .308 Win. 170 Gr. Low Recoil Ammo
before you put out the money for a Break.
Keep in mind a Break will radically increase the loudness of the shot as well as reduce the recoil.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/federal-fusion-308-win-170-gr-low-recoil-ammo-20-rds.aspx?a=286527&bi=141567 (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/federal-fusion-308-win-170-gr-low-recoil-ammo-20-rds.aspx?a=286527&bi=141567)
Tried the fusions and the remmington reduced recoil rounds and the gun hates both of them. Won't shoot groups at all and I won't buy anymore.
:tup:
Post by: DoubleJ on August 17, 2012, 01:37:22 PM
Post by: Bofire on August 17, 2012, 05:43:56 PM
Carl
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 17, 2012, 06:01:10 PM
Did I mention Vais Arms Muzzle brakes? :tup: :tup: :tup:
http://www.muzzlebrakes.com/ (http://www.muzzlebrakes.com/)
Post by: luteai on August 17, 2012, 09:33:18 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 17, 2012, 10:36:09 PM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on August 17, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
http://www.seekinsprecision.com/muzzle-brake-151.html (http://www.seekinsprecision.com/muzzle-brake-151.html)
http://defensiveedge.net/products/point%2075%20brake/DE%20.750%20BRAKE.htm (http://defensiveedge.net/products/point%2075%20brake/DE%20.750%20BRAKE.htm)
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 17, 2012, 11:26:20 PM
This is a 4 port" Muscle Brake " by Center Shot Rifle, it is a excellent brake. You can order the brake through Jim at Center Shot and have your smith install it. They also do the same brake in the round.
http://www.centershotrifles.com/products/muzzle_brakes.php (http://www.centershotrifles.com/products/muzzle_brakes.php)
This brake bellow has a extra port cut in the top and a tension screw done by Benchmark. I have the same brake on my .338 Ultra Magnum, less the extra port and the set screw.
.450 Ultra Magnum
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto1-23.jpg&hash=d0c5ba06f1a4cbe05386333edf407520d99db239)
This is a Vais Arms(7mm WSM)
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Here's a couple Harrels.(.450 Ultra Magnum)
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.375 Ultra Magnum
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(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2FDSC04966.jpg&hash=4c4bd1c58f1eec6bd554bd2893e16c9339a0be74)
Post by: Tinner on August 18, 2012, 02:27:19 AM
How much would a gunsmith charge to port the barrel on my .308? I want to lessen the recoil for one of my sons.
Just my .02) Try a limb saver recoil pad first, I put one on my 300WM after seeing a few youtube vids and it made all the difference in the world and dont need to spend the coin on a brake.
They absorb the snap real well, I think I paid $35.
Post by: DoubleJ on August 18, 2012, 08:58:52 AM
How much would a gunsmith charge to port the barrel on my .308? I want to lessen the recoil for one of my sons.
Just my .02) Try a limb saver recoil pad first, I put one on my 300WM after seeing a few youtube vids and it made all the difference in the world and dont need to spend the coin on a brake.
They absorb the snap real well, I think I paid $35.
I have a Pachmyr pad already.
Post by: DoubleJ on August 18, 2012, 08:59:11 AM
Post by: Bofire on August 18, 2012, 09:19:49 AM
http://www.chuckhawks.com/muzzle_brakes.htm (http://www.chuckhawks.com/muzzle_brakes.htm)
Magnaport charges about 150 but you must ship the gun to them to be ported they also sell brakes
Carl
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 18, 2012, 09:20:11 AM
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 18, 2012, 09:26:17 AM
:) read this!!
http://www.chuckhawks.com/muzzle_brakes.htm (http://www.chuckhawks.com/muzzle_brakes.htm)
Magnaport charges about 150 but you must ship the gun to them to be ported they also sell brakes
Carl
I used to use Magna-Port muzzle brakes way back before I changed to Vais Arms, this is a Magna-Port brake. Magna-Port installed this brake on a PSS back in 91 or so.
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Post by: mazama on August 18, 2012, 10:26:20 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on August 18, 2012, 10:39:33 AM
Put a slipon limbsaver pad on over the regular pad will drastically reduce recoil,while hunting i don't notice recoil or noise. shooting off bench is where you will get most recoil.off hand at a animal kid may never notice recoil.
Had thought about that but was kind of concerned about length of pull for a kid being an issue. May look into it anyway
Post by: Huntbear on August 18, 2012, 11:01:08 AM
Put a slipon limbsaver pad on over the regular pad will drastically reduce recoil,while hunting i don't notice recoil or noise. shooting off bench is where you will get most recoil.off hand at a animal kid may never notice recoil.
Had thought about that but was kind of concerned about length of pull for a kid being an issue. May look into it anyway
if you test the length of pull on the kid.. make surehe is wearing his hunting clothing,, makes a big difference especially in a kid....
Post by: NW-GSP on August 18, 2012, 11:01:33 AM
Post by: jstone on August 18, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on August 18, 2012, 11:15:11 AM
Post by: NW-GSP on August 18, 2012, 11:16:38 AM
wat about on a muzzeloader? or would it be a waiste of time??
I bet it would help but it would spread the smoke more and be a pain to clean. I am honelstly guessing though
Post by: carpsniperg2 on August 18, 2012, 11:38:46 AM