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Title: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: DoubleJ on August 24, 2012, 08:29:01 AM: Hey guys!!!

I got drawn for a multi season deer tag this year (Lucky me, right?) and, with archery deer opening in a week, I need a bow. I've never shot one before so I need someone to explain what I need to look for in a bow. I figure if I can get one in the next couple of days that I'd be able to pick up some arrows from Cabelas and shoot a couple into the tire stack I have in the back yard and be good to go. I need one that can get a kill out to 100 yards just to make sure I can get a kill because I've never tried to get close to a deer before since my rifle can kill a deer from the road no matter how far out I see him. If you can help, please let me know.

Thanks

:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: D-Rock425 on August 24, 2012, 08:31:25 AM: Trouble maker :nono:
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Post by: D-Rock425 on August 24, 2012, 08:32:17 AM: Kinda sad thats really going to happen.
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Post by: h20hunter on August 24, 2012, 08:33:31 AM: You are going to need the extra bright Luminoks for your hunt. The first arrow is really just a test shot to see how much higher you need to aim. Lob the first one, make a correction, lob the second, third, and fourth. Eventually you will hit it somewhere. Keep the light taped onto your stabilizer and you will be able to get shots off right at dark when they can't really see as well.
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Post by: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 08:36:47 AM: I got thru the first 3 sentences and was like "wtf, i am not taking this guy east", then i finished it, glad it was a joke.
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H2o, it's not taping the flashlight, it is using rubber bands man, quicker to remove if needed.....if you remember to remove it at all.....
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: actionshooter on August 24, 2012, 08:39:06 AM: Quote from: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 08:36:47 AM
I got thru the first 3 sentences and was like "wtf, i am not taking this guy east", then i finished it, glad it was a joke.
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H2o, it's not taping the flashlight, it is using rubber bands man, quicker to remove if needed.....if you remember to remove it at all.....

The problem is, its not a joke. If you went to cabelas right now I gurantee "that guy" will be there.
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: DoubleJ on August 24, 2012, 08:41:13 AM: Quote from: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 08:36:47 AM
I got thru the first 3 sentences and was like "wtf, i am not taking this guy east", then i finished it, glad it was a joke.
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H2o, it's not taping the flashlight, it is using rubber bands man, quicker to remove if needed.....if you remember to remove it at all.....

:chuckle:
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: DoubleJ on August 24, 2012, 08:41:53 AM: Quote from: actionshooter on August 24, 2012, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 08:36:47 AM
I got thru the first 3 sentences and was like "wtf, i am not taking this guy east", then i finished it, glad it was a joke.
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H2o, it's not taping the flashlight, it is using rubber bands man, quicker to remove if needed.....if you remember to remove it at all.....

The problem is, its not a joke. If you went to cabelas right now I gurantee "that guy" will be there.

:yeah: I'm actually surprised we haven't seen him on the forum yet
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 08:45:32 AM: Quote from: actionshooter on August 24, 2012, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 08:36:47 AM
I got thru the first 3 sentences and was like "wtf, i am not taking this guy east", then i finished it, glad it was a joke.
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H2o, it's not taping the flashlight, it is using rubber bands man, quicker to remove if needed.....if you remember to remove it at all.....

The problem is, its not a joke. If you went to cabelas right now I gurantee "that guy" will be there.
I am sure "that guy" will be there, i have seen them there. What i meant was Doublej inparticular, i am taking him east in a few weeks and for a brief moment thought he was "that guy"....
No different than the 3 rounds a year guys coming to a hunters sight in at a range near you, blow the dust off, get a scope cut and your good to go....ugh......
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: h20hunter on August 24, 2012, 08:46:22 AM: Forgive my oversight on the tape. You are correct that the rubber bands work better. Again, a thousand pardons.
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Post by: runamuk on August 24, 2012, 08:53:41 AM: Quote from: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 08:45:32 AM
Quote from: actionshooter on August 24, 2012, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 08:36:47 AM
I got thru the first 3 sentences and was like "wtf, i am not taking this guy east", then i finished it, glad it was a joke.
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H2o, it's not taping the flashlight, it is using rubber bands man, quicker to remove if needed.....if you remember to remove it at all.....

The problem is, its not a joke. If you went to cabelas right now I gurantee "that guy" will be there.
I am sure "that guy" will be there, i have seen them there. What i meant was Doublej inparticular, i am taking him east in a few weeks and for a brief moment thought he was "that guy"....
No different than the 3 rounds a year guys coming to a hunters sight in at a range near you, blow the dust off, get a scope cut and your good to go....ugh......

dude I felt like I was worse than that person this year :chuckle: I actually went bear hunting and hadn't shot my own rifle in a year, well since before deer last season....I have been doing a bunch of shooting just hadn't taken baby out, she was living with the cops, so I spent more time shooting other peoples firearms, and smaller easier to transport stuff....22, 45, 9mm, 243wssm, 257AI, but my little 7mmmmoh8 had been collecting dust since deer season....finally took her to the range and she is dead on still at 100yds and so am I so we are good to go :chuckle:
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Post by: Bean Counter on August 24, 2012, 09:05:25 AM: Don't forget the Crimson Trace laser!
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: KimberRich on August 24, 2012, 09:08:12 AM: Quote from: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 08:45:32 AM
Quote from: actionshooter on August 24, 2012, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 08:36:47 AM
I got thru the first 3 sentences and was like "wtf, i am not taking this guy east", then i finished it, glad it was a joke.
*
H2o, it's not taping the flashlight, it is using rubber bands man, quicker to remove if needed.....if you remember to remove it at all.....

The problem is, its not a joke. If you went to cabelas right now I gurantee "that guy" will be there.
I am sure "that guy" will be there, i have seen them there. What i meant was Doublej inparticular, i am taking him east in a few weeks and for a brief moment thought he was "that guy"....
No different than the 3 rounds a year guys coming to a hunters sight in at a range near you, blow the dust off, get a scope cut and your good to go....ugh......

How many rounds should I fire if my gun is still shooting a 1/2" group?

Archery equipment is a different story.. I've been shooting my bow for months and still feel like I need practice.
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 09:20:03 AM: As many as you feel comfortable or confindent in, no need to shoot more that you feel you need to, i used to voluneteer range help out at issaguah and i am sure it is the same else where in i would see once a year shooters that could barely hit paper, shoot a group of 3-5 all over the place and call it good. I myself like you have rifles i am very comfortable and confident in and one or two rounds just to check and i am fine to go....
Archery yep, the more the better as you are also training your body, eyes, focus, range estimation etc, so practice, practice.....
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: KimberRich on August 24, 2012, 09:26:33 AM: Quote from: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 09:20:03 AM
As many as you feel comfortable or confindent in, no need to shoot more that you feel you need to, i used to voluneteer range help out at issaguah and i am sure it is the same else where in i would see once a year shooters that could barely hit paper, shoot a group of 3-5 all over the place and call it good. I myself like you have rifles i am very comfortable and confident in and one or two rounds just to check and i am fine to go....
Archery yep, the more the better as you are also training your body, eyes, focus, range estimation etc, so practice, practice.....

Well said. I agree with that. I rarely shoot more than 5 rounds in my hunting rifle it it groups well initially.
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 09:36:19 AM: Got my setup already, what do you guys think?
You can borrow it if a want, i wont need it after the evening before opening day...
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Post by: Woodchuck on August 24, 2012, 09:37:46 AM: Looks Goooooooooooood :tup:
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Post by: runamuk on August 24, 2012, 09:41:46 AM: Quote from: Buckmark on August 24, 2012, 09:36:19 AM
Got my setup already, what do you guys think?
You can borrow it if a want, i wont need it after the evening before opening day...
:chuckle: :chuckle:

also be sure to take pics after dark without any tags in sight :tup:
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: Curly on August 24, 2012, 09:47:28 AM: I've overheard people at Sportsman Warehouse the evening before elk season buying a muzzleloader. :o

Or how about the guy that buys a rifle the day before season and only bore sights it..... :dunno: :yike:
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: DoubleJ on August 24, 2012, 09:49:05 AM: What ever happened to the flashlight guy?
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Post by: worldsworsthunter on August 24, 2012, 09:54:26 AM: 1 week, you have plenty of time to become proffecient. Your probably a quick learner as well. Me not so much, I have to shoot at least 3000+ arrows a year to maintain. I would suggest buying the most expensive set-up you can find. In archery you really do get what you pay for.
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Post by: h20hunter on August 24, 2012, 10:05:16 AM: Flashlight guy never came back.....big surprise.

I completely disagree with getting the latest and greatest compound bow. Everyone knows that traditional archery is far more simple and easy to pick up. No cams, no sights, no stabilizers.....nothing but purity in flight. Also, you can't shoot more than 8 yards and kill anything so how can you miss?
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: DoubleJ on August 24, 2012, 10:06:53 AM: Quote from: h20hunter on August 24, 2012, 10:05:16 AM
Flashlight guy never came back.....big surprise.

I completely disagree with getting the latest and greatest compound bow. Everyone knows that traditional archery is far more simple and easy to pick up. No cams, no sights, no stabilizers.....nothing but purity in flight. Also, you can't shoot more than 8 yards and kill anything so how can you miss?

I thought I heard he got turned in and got into trouble but I can't remember seeing confirmation of this.
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Post by: h20hunter on August 24, 2012, 10:07:54 AM: I don't remember the specifics. I know there was a blood letting on the forum but when things like that come up most people just fade away.
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Post by: Button Nubbs on August 24, 2012, 10:18:35 AM: I see it every year. My range is always quiet until the masses show up a week before the season take all the lanes up and take forever to find their arrows because they can't even hit the targets. :bash:
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Post by: PolarBear on August 24, 2012, 10:19:15 AM: You sound like 80% of the guys in the archery dept of Cabela's right now. :chuckle: I use to love to go to Cabela's or Sportsman's Whorehouse a week before every big game opener and check out all the cityots buying brand new bows or rifles for a hunt in "just a couple of days". :bash: :chuckle: I worked with a guy at the brewery who ordered a new bow from Cabela's (before we had a store), got it 3 days before season, was able to hit a paper plate at 10 yards and dalled it good. He wounded and lost 4 does in the first week of season. I can imagine how many other do the same thing. :bash: :bash:
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Post by: boneaddict on August 24, 2012, 10:27:12 AM: :yike: I saw this thread and thought OH MY GOD, this is going to be a bad one. :chuckle:
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Post by: sebek556 on August 24, 2012, 10:28:47 AM: :yeah: and that is why i am actually for a archery test before you can get a tag. Sad that there is something i actually want more regulation on.
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Post by: PolarBear on August 24, 2012, 10:29:42 AM: :yeah:
Honestly, the majority of the guys that I run into in the woods or just in conversation, i wouldn't trust with a bow. I know far too many people who feel that a 6-8 inch group at 30 yards is "good enough" and don't bother to practice out any further. These are the same guys who I hear the same story from every G.D. year that they lost at least one animal and that take 60-70 yard shots without ever shooting that distance. It happens with every weapon not just archery.
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Post by: Kowsrule30 on August 24, 2012, 02:48:40 PM: I gotta shoot at least two rounds outta the rifle to be sure and 3 with the ml..... The bow owns me so it doesn't get used on game.... :chuckle:
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Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 24, 2012, 03:58:27 PM: If the flashlighted version fails to produce.....
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Post by: MLBowhunting on August 24, 2012, 07:34:36 PM: Dont forget your flashlight stabilizer :tup:
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Post by: seth30 on August 24, 2012, 07:53:12 PM: Not only can you borrow my bow, but I will let you hunt my honey hole that I have watched all year. Heck I will pick you up at your house drop you off, even gut your deer for you just because you asked :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: DoubleJ on August 24, 2012, 08:25:58 PM: Quote from: seth30 on August 24, 2012, 07:53:12 PM
Not only can you borrow my bow, but I will let you hunt my honey hole that I have watched all year. Heck I will pick you up at your house drop you off, even gut your deer for you just because you asked :chuckle: :chuckle:

You'll probably get a dozen pm's from lurkers now
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Post by: buckfvr on August 24, 2012, 08:32:58 PM: Might be the right time to pass along the FOBs.......... :chuckle:
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Post by: DoubleJ on August 24, 2012, 08:35:57 PM: I swear i will find a use for them some day.
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Post by: Elk hunter4ever on August 24, 2012, 08:45:41 PM: You know its totally messed up when people apply for these multi season tags,but have no clue how to use each weapon and think that getting into bow hunting a week before season without practice, a bow, and shootin out to 100 yards is OK. WTF?? Please stay home and leave the archery hunting to the dedicated and responsible bow hunters in Sept. Animals don't deserve to be wounded because of your last minute decisions to get into bow hunting!!!! :twocents:
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Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 24, 2012, 08:46:07 PM: :dunno: I knew where he was headed :chuckle:
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Post by: DoubleJ on August 24, 2012, 08:59:19 PM: Apparently, not everyone understood
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Post by: sebek556 on August 24, 2012, 09:39:26 PM: :tup: I gottcha double, its the guys that actually do this :bash:
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Post by: grade-creek-rd on August 25, 2012, 09:24:33 AM: DoubleJ...you're "over thinking it"...why not just get a crossbow with one of those red dot hologram sights...you could easily launch one of those "arrows" to 200 yards and kill a big buck right from the quad....yes, I too see it all the time...two years ago I went home the day before deer season (hunted the "low lands" with my brother that year...) and decided to check out my old haunts on the back side of the Chelan Butte...I saw 3 legal bucks just milling around and then "Boom...Boom...Boom"...I come around the corner and there is a truck parked in the middle of the WDFW lands road with a guy shooting off of the hood of his truck at a cardboard box "about" 100 yards away...I asked him what he was doing and he said, "Just making sure it's good for tomorrow morning..." That was the last time I let my brother talk me into hunting the low lands with him!!!! (he had private lands secured in Mansfield...and it was still a zoo!)

G-C-R
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Post by: mtman on August 25, 2012, 11:05:24 AM: I think about 75% of all hunters fall in that catigory. I heard people say with a rifle if they can hit a sheet of plywood at a hundred yards its fine. Also watched bow hunters shoot everyday on flat ground out to forty yards. Then go hunt were the animals live In the mtns and expect to hit something.
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Post by: PolarBear on August 25, 2012, 01:40:23 PM: I have a 30 year old Hoyt/Easton Ram Hunter that you can use. It has no break in the cam so it is 90 pounds all the way through the cycle. It has killed a lot of critters and is a good luck bow. You are more than welcome to use it. ;)
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Post by: akashasdaddy on August 25, 2012, 01:42:29 PM: I soiled myself when I first read this post; I thought you were serious til I saw the smileies at the end of the post.

With all the help you have given me this season to get me ready for my first bow hunt. I went from feeling really confident, to extremely nervous, to a little irritated because I was taken by the post in a matter of seconds.

I am heading out to put another 100 or so shots down field right now just to get my confidence back.
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Post by: rotty33 on August 25, 2012, 04:28:28 PM: Luminocks, mechanical broad heads and a crossbow with a scope.
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Post by: buckhorn2 on August 25, 2012, 04:42:09 PM: Taking my friend who is disabeled and he shoots a crossbow with a scope. Don;t know if we can get close to anything but he has practiced a lot and is excited to go. His crossbow shoots real good to 50 yards and it may be able to shoot a lot farther but that is what we set the limit at shooting. Still hopeing for a little rain.
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Post by: DoubleJ on August 27, 2012, 11:22:59 AM: I went and bought a Bowtec Insanity because it was super fast. Took it out today and put 4 groups at 20 yards into my target. This was the best group:

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv612%2Fdoublej88%2FIMAG0374.jpg&hash=95797fe2d61a7ed5c92d20f368a3b9180017ba6b)

Definately all in the kill zone. I am stoked to be able to kill a deer with my new bow this year. Now that I'm dialed in, I can't wait!
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Post by: PolarBear on August 27, 2012, 11:30:58 AM: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: Buckmark on August 27, 2012, 11:33:28 AM: Lookin sweeeet, may i add that you should wrap your targets in brown duct tape, the silver reflects too much flashlight light when practicing at night... :chuckle:
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Post by: grundy53 on August 27, 2012, 11:35:29 AM: I sat in front of the tulalip cabelas all week end. Amazing how many new bows left that place in just 2 days. Not saying they are all going to be used next week but.... :dunno:
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Post by: MADMAX on August 27, 2012, 11:56:50 AM: Ha
those are the guys that put the arc in archery
No problem @ 100 I can hit it !
Title: Re: Archery deer opens in a week. I need a bow
Post by: Johnb317 on August 27, 2012, 04:41:39 PM: Not like they're going to put enough arrows through to shoot in the new strings.
As long as they stay out of the woods I'm ok with that. :chuckle: