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Title: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 01, 2012, 09:52:34 PM
so today i learned my first hard lesson in archery hunting and hunting in general. i have never been snorted at by a deer before. while pounding the brush i here something that sounds a lot like a sneeze, i turn to see where it came from but dont see anything. then it happens again and again. i start thinking black bear. I freak cause i dont have a bear tag or a side arm to scare it away. i put my release on just encase. I hear the "sneeze" a few more times; i keep searching for the cause but dont see anything. then a big brown blur jumps about 10 feet in the air  :yike:. now i know what it was and try to stalk it but i cant run it down  :bash:. I felt like a huge steaming pile cause i got spooked by the animal i was hunting. i put the spot into my gps and will continue to hunt that spot cause me and this deer have a history and i am determined to come out on top.




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Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 01, 2012, 09:55:54 PM
 :tup: don't feel too bad, had a grouse about make me crap my pants when I was stalking a bear and it blew out next to me  :chuckle: it happens to everyone :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Cap.Silver on September 01, 2012, 10:01:37 PM
yep, got jumped by grouse behind a tree 3 weeks ago - almost had a heartattack  :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: jnevs23 on September 01, 2012, 10:14:54 PM
might be a good idea to keep that release on while in the woods
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on September 01, 2012, 10:29:12 PM
Oh ya the good old doe snort! Our 2.75 old learned about that today. She was throwin rocks down the hill and i told her the animals would be upset at her and sure enough there goes mama deer snortin and a blowin down the hill! So she at 2.75 years old learned an imporrtant lesson of the woods!!!! :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sirfunkeybut on September 01, 2012, 11:10:11 PM
Lol, I heard my first snort in the middle of the night. Woke me up and scared the crap out of me, I finally woke my buddy and he was like its just a deer. Now when I hear it I just get pissed, I had one whitetail snort at me even after he ran about 200 yards  :bash:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 02, 2012, 12:08:55 AM
I believe that these can be found in Mossy Oak now....
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: marlin on September 02, 2012, 05:02:31 AM
I got up yesterday morning and hit the woods early.. I walked 1/2 mile in and realized I left my release in the truck.. Good thing I didnt see any deer. Then I went to another spot, and I got within about 20ft of a doe, and knocked an arrow and drew on her without her knowing, but I failed to see another doe at 20yds, the further doe saw me and busted me. Then about 6 deer went stomping and blowing down the clearcut.. Oh well. This morning maybe better luck.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: washelkhunter on September 02, 2012, 06:10:44 AM
The important lesson you should take away here is that blacktail will often hold cover. Look for them at ground level. They will just lay and let you walk right by. Bet that deer doesnt make a sound the next time a human gets close. Good luck.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 02, 2012, 06:30:43 AM
I have had blacktail snort at me alot ...sometimes for 10 min ...I was sitting on a landing watching this clearcut and it was real steep where I was sitting and I stood up to stretch my legs and all the sudden a doe jumps up right under me , she takes off down the hill and stops when she hits the bottom and stands there forever snorting her head off ...I get up and leave and as I am walking away she is still snorting  :bash: :bash: Never thought I smelled that bad :dunno: :chuckle: As far as having a score to settle with that deer I would keep after it ...You know where he is now So just slow down a little ..what I mean by that is if your still hunting spend more time just standing around and listening and move short distances at a time ...most of the animals I have taken have been by still hunting and I love sneakin up on critters ....Persistance usually pays off ...it took me 3 years to catch up with one buck I killed ....hunted him 2 years with my bow and seen him twice and that was in November ....then I switched over to rifle and killed him the 3rd year 3:15 on the last day of general season in October .... :tup: :tup: Sorry for writting a book  :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: brokehunter on September 02, 2012, 10:53:39 AM
I believe that these can be found in Mossy Oak now....

 :yeah:
LOL
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: boneaddict on September 02, 2012, 10:58:51 AM
They are trying to smell you out of the glands under their eyes.   They have seen or heard, but have not smelled you yet.   Some will do it over and over again, or even reposition and try some more in oreder to figure out what you are.   

MANY confuse this with a buck snort, snort/wheeze.   THEY ARE NOT RELATED
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: fair-chase on September 02, 2012, 11:11:27 AM
They are trying to smell you out of the glands under their eyes.   They have seen or heard, but have not smelled you yet.   Some will do it over and over again, or even reposition and try some more in oreder to figure out what you are.   

MANY confuse this with a buck snort, snort/wheeze.   THEY ARE NOT RELATED

 :yeah: Get this alot from muley does. They know something is wrong but not sure what it is. If you hunker down often they will come in closer to investigate.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: dawn2dusk on September 02, 2012, 11:12:31 AM
 :yeah: had it happen this morning. was working some jack firs, wind was good she didn't know what I was, she crossed the drainage and kept doing it. Lasted probably a good 15 minutes till I gave her the bird and moved on. Kinda fun to watch them try to figure out what's going on.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: bobcat on September 02, 2012, 11:30:28 AM
It's so annoying when they do that! Happens to me all the time.

Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Kowsrule30 on September 02, 2012, 11:47:04 AM
Got pinned down for 45 minutes last year by four does that came up behind my set up and didn't like seeing parts of me move... The first snort scared the hell outta me.... They were all doing along with the foot stomping.... Pretty common.... Are all BT does right footed when stomping???    :chuckle:   
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 02, 2012, 12:15:56 PM
I've been texting with akashasdaddy all morning.  Man, he is getting close.  He has kicked about half a dozen deer this morning.  Had a nice broadside shot on a doe but it was about 50 yards and his comfort zone is 25.  He's got it a bit tough trying to get that close but, as well as he's doing for his first archery hunt, he'll get one soon I think.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: bobcat on September 02, 2012, 12:35:17 PM
Good to hear that he's showing some restraint. With all the talk of people arrowing animals at 50 and 60 yards, I think many people decide to take those shots, even though they haven't practiced for them and aren't confident at those distances. If I were to go bow hunting right now, my max range would be 30 yards.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: boneaddict on September 02, 2012, 12:41:29 PM
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It's so annoying when they do that! Happens to me all the time.



well if you didn't sound like a herd of elephants moving through the brush.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: bobcat on September 02, 2012, 12:45:41 PM
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It's so annoying when they do that! Happens to me all the time.



well if you didn't sound like a herd of elephants moving through the brush.  :chuckle:

It's usually when I'm not even hunting, just walking in or out, and not trying to be quiet.

Plus have you ever tried to hunt over here? Try being quiet walking through all this brush.   :bash:   :)
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 02, 2012, 12:51:30 PM
Good to hear that he's showing some restraint. With all the talk of people arrowing animals at 50 and 60 yards, I think many people decide to take those shots, even though they haven't practiced for them and aren't confident at those distances. If I were to go bow hunting right now, my max range would be 30 yards.

Same thing I told him.  Wait until you're comfortable
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 02, 2012, 09:19:35 PM
 :tup: pretty sure he will get one, after last year's theft and this years restraint. karmas gotta kick in soon or later  :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 02, 2012, 09:27:31 PM
He certainly deserves one.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 02, 2012, 09:39:54 PM
Update in the epic that s my hunting season so far.

I pull in to my spot at exactly 5am, following all the advice from Boyd Iverson cause I just read his book blacktail tactics 2; I get out of the truck as slowly and quietly as I can, spray myself down with odorless scent killer, and begin the short hike to the place I saw the doe yesterday. I cautiously watch every step, with a sporadic pace and lots of stops ; it takes me an hour to walk less than a quarter mile. I round the corner  and at about 100 yards in the fog I see two does leap into the brush. I immediately back up against the shrubs to disguise my silhouette. As I am listening to the does waiting for them to stop, out of the corner of my eye I see a third deer come trotting out of the brush. I can't see antlers but the thing has the biggest body I have ever seen and its walking right toward me. I slowly crouch down and get ready then it turns and follows the two does. I begin to stalk them. one of the does makes me and starts snorting. I know what it is now so I stop and she stops snorting but the other two bolt. I get sight of the snorting doe who has quieted down. So I resume my stalk. She makes me again but still doesn't take off. I wait and she quiets down again.  Now I only move when her head is down and I am closing on her. She makes me again but still doesn't run. Instead she starts bucking like a bronco; I stop moving and hide behind a small pine. She circles away a little but I keep following. I close to 50 yards and if I were a better archer presents me with a perfect broadside shot, but I am only comfortable out to 25-30 yards tops. I wont push my luck with the shot because I want to be as ethical a hunter as I can, don't want to just wound the animal, and at $15 per arrow they are far too expensive to loose on a risky shot. I play this game for about an hour until she ducks behind a wind fall tree and I loose sight of her.  That was the most fun I have ever had while hunting so far. The rest of the day is uneventful until about 730 pm when I spot two does that have no clue I am there. I start slowly stalking. I get to about 35-40 yards and I'm closing quickly. They still don't know I am there. I am about to fill my tag. Finally redemption after having my buck stolen from me last year during rifle season. I feel my heart start pounding, the adrenaline is starting to ht me hard. I talk to my grandpa to calm myself. Just as I am with in 30 yards a little girl on a quad comes racing up running the does off. Last I saw of them was their mocking white flags raised high in the air. My night is over.

All in all today was a great day and even though I didn't punch my tag  feel it was successful.   
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 02, 2012, 09:45:20 PM
 :tup: it is shaping up to be a epic season, keep at it man you've stalked into you kill range now, the kill comes next  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 02, 2012, 09:52:05 PM
Like I told you, you are WAAAAAAY closer to getting your deer than you know.  Keep doing what you're doing and there's a good chance you'll connect tomorrow.  To be this close to deer on your 2nd day ever bow hunting is great.  I can't wait for your text telling me you hit a deer!  Just make sure you stay calm and don't move.  Shoot your deer, pull out your phone, text me, sit and wait for me to text you back!  Man, I am more excited for you to get your deer than I am for myself this year :tup:
Title: rookie mistakes
Post by: sirmissalot on September 03, 2012, 01:12:47 PM
Sounds like an awesome day. That's what's so fun about archery hunting, you're able to put stocks on animals, even of they are does, it sure makes for an exciting hunt. I cannot tell you how many hunts I've had ruined by quads behind locked gates.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 03, 2012, 02:27:10 PM
And the saga continues nothing too exciting. stalked a few does, stalked a shrub brush on hands and knees for 15 minutes before i realized it was a bush, scared off a doe that was behind another shrub when I whistled at her hoping she would show herself. worst of all while sitting in my truck eating a two point walks across the road right in front of me; I grab my bow and jump out of the truck hoping to catch him when a spike comes out right infront of me about 20 yards. Perfect right? Thats what I thought too. I was wrong, it was a big fat miss.

On the bright side I get to keep hunting.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 03, 2012, 02:55:29 PM
So you've progressed from finding deer to getting a shot opportunity but out of range to getting within range but can't get a shot because of outside interference to getting within your shooting distance and actually getting a shot off, all within 2 days of your first bow season.  Guess what's next?

I know there is some that exist but, I have never met a bow hunter who hasn't missed.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 03, 2012, 04:44:38 PM
I know, I feel more confident every time I am out and I still have a lot of season left. I am taking it all in stride and see it for what it is a learning experience. My girlfriend gave me a good idea though. Since I update how my season is going everyday she suggested at the end of the season whenever that may be, that I take all my posts and put them in a journal and keep updating it every season to hand down to my daughter and/or grandchildren.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 03, 2012, 04:46:46 PM
I know, I feel more confident every time I am out and I still have a lot of season left. I am taking it all in stride and see it for what it is a learning experience. My girlfriend gave me a good idea though. Since I update how my season is going everyday she suggested at the end of the season whenever that may be, that I take all my posts and put them in a journal and keep updating it every season to hand down to my daughter and/or grandchildren.

See?  The internet is good for something.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: _TONY_ on September 03, 2012, 07:22:08 PM
It's so annoying when they do that! Happens to me all the time.

Yeah, this...
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 03, 2012, 08:39:14 PM
Happened to me tonight as a matter of fact :(
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 04, 2012, 09:21:23 PM
Day four update....
I get to my spot about 445 this morning,after my miss yesterday, I really want to get in and get settled in the dark. Soon as I walk in past the gate I get this feeling that there is something wrong/different. I shrug it off and walk in. I get settled on top of an old stump that wasn't cut clean so it has a good back rest; it is surrounded by small pines that give me plenty of cover from the front and side but, still gives me plenty of clear shooting lanes. I am sitting there for about an hour before nature calls and its urgent  :yike:. I climb down and start quickly but quietly walking back to the truck so I can find a bathroom cause I don't want my smell to soil my hunting spot. Half way between my stump and my truck I hear something walking through the brush. I stop, try to figure out exactly where the noise is coming from. Its close! I get down on all fours and crawl closer. After I crawl about 20 yards, I stop, the sound is right beside me. I get into some brush and wait. After about 30 mins the noise stops. I wait another 30 but nothing happens. I figure whatever was making that sound got passed me. I stand up just in time to see the back end of a black tail slip into some tall fern and blackberry bushes. I start to crawl again. I want to sneak up on this deer. No sooner did I hit my knees that a doe comes out on the other side about 20 yards away. :tup: this must be my lucky day cause she looked the opposite direction from me. I pull to a full draw and taking the lesson from yesterday to heart I put my 25 yard pin on her and I aim low. As soon as I locked in behind my jaw she turned straight at me. We had a stare down for what felt like an hour but was only two mins tops. I don't move and she can't make me. She turns broadside to follow her friend. I twist my foot on the ground a little just to get her to stop, which she does and I let it fly. Right as I released she dropped and bolted forward at the same time. Next thing I see is my arrow bouncing off the ground right where she was and skid off into the brush. Another miss  :'(  :bash:. I then circle around cause I know where they are going and I can cut them off. I meet them about 200 yards down; they don't know I am there but they are on edge big time. They keep looking behind them and walking in a zigzag. Keeping an eye on them I forget to watch my step and kick a rock. The larger of the two stops and looks in my direction both ears focused on me. I am covered real well so I stop with one foot still in the air. She can't make me. She even jumps up on a dead log and stomps a little but no snorting. If I could make a 40 yard shot I would have had a perfect one but I can't so I wait. She starts walking toward me. I get excited; shes doing the work for me. I loose sight of her behind a tall shrub for just a second. She passes the shrub, stops and we make eye contact. I am still hidden pretty well but she knows somethings up and bolts into the timber. I circle around to the other side not positive of where they are going this time but I have a good idea. I set up just inside the timber line on a well worn trail. I can here them getting closer but can't make their location. Then they just stop. I wait for about an hour and a half...nothing. I get the bright idea to toss a rock just trying to get them to move some more...still nothing. I wait for as long as I can but my daughter has some school meet and greet and I have to call it a day.

I am learning so much about these animals. Its just a matter of time til I punch my tag. With everything that has hapened to me, all the bad luck, some people may just decide to give up. Not me; I have 20 more hunting days before I go back to school and I am determined. Even if I don't punch my tag this year, I may not be happy, but I will have learned enough to make me an even better hunter next season or even the late season if my class schedule will allow it. One thing I must do, is practice more to lengthen my range. I really need to get to a point that I feel comfortable out to at least 40 yards.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 04, 2012, 09:32:27 PM
You'll punch your tag Thursday night :tup:  I know it for a fact.

2 things from talking to you today and from this post that I noticed.

1.  Even if you felt like you could make a 40 yard shot, attempting one on a deer that was so on edge and alert would have yielded a miss at best, a wounded doe at worst.  With your bow set at 50lbs, too much time transpires at a 40 yard distance for a shot on an alert, on edge deer.

2.  NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVAR EVER look a deer in the eye.  She may stare at you while you stare at her but NEVER NEVER NEVER make eye contact!!!
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 04, 2012, 09:41:36 PM
 :tup: keep your head up man. When you punch your tag, you'll be a lot better hunter than many out there right now. Once your shooting catches up then the whole picture will be complete and you'll be a killing machine
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: fair-chase on September 04, 2012, 09:46:36 PM
Pulling for you.  :tup:  You're going to have yourself one well earned deer here shortly.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 04, 2012, 09:50:38 PM
:tup: keep your head up man. When you punch your tag, you'll be a lot better hunter than many out there right now. Once your shooting catches up then the whole picture will be complete and you'll be a killing machine

I agree whole heartedly.  When his shooting comes along, he is going to be an opening day tag filler for years.  Justin can seriously hunt.  I am super impressed where he is after only a few days into his 2nd season and only days into his first bow season.  We need to turn him loose on elk next :twocents:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: MatthewHunter98 on September 04, 2012, 10:26:14 PM
things happen. good luck on gittin that history taken care of :tup:
Title: rookie mistakes
Post by: sirmissalot on September 05, 2012, 10:38:09 AM
Awesome write up on your season so far, keep up the good work. Sounds like a blast, I'm sure you will kill but of not you sure got to experience some great bow hunting. Can't say I've got within 20 yards to very many blacktail during season, that in itself is a great accomplishment. Can't wait to see a successful picture with you and your deer at the end of this thread.

The best advice I have ever got for hunting, especially bow hunting, was to pick a spot. Just aiming for the vitals isn't enough, aim for that tuff of hair just behind the shoulder, put your pin on that small spot and let her rip. Aim small miss small, as they say.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: jackmaster on September 05, 2012, 12:17:51 PM
They are trying to smell you out of the glands under their eyes.   They have seen or heard, but have not smelled you yet.   Some will do it over and over again, or even reposition and try some more in oreder to figure out what you are.   

MANY confuse this with a buck snort, snort/wheeze.   THEY ARE NOT RELATED
:yeah:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 05, 2012, 06:32:59 PM
Thanks everyone for all the support. With everyone's positive feed back and advice on this post; I really Hope I am able to end this thread with some pics to share with everyone. I don't want to leave it with an anticlimactic ending.

No hunting for me today so no real update to write about.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 05, 2012, 08:24:37 PM
when's you next day in the woods? :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 05, 2012, 08:42:44 PM
I will be out all day tomorrow.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 05, 2012, 08:52:28 PM
 :tup: good luck man, I'll be hitting my deer blind tomorrow myself, stuff to do around the house so can't go chase elk in the mountains tomorrow so big buck here I come, and the storm tonight should keep everyone tucked in bed  :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 05, 2012, 09:02:30 PM
Don't shoot a deer until after 5:30pm when I get home :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 05, 2012, 09:20:15 PM
if he doesn't get one by the time your coming this way, throw his butt in the truck and bring him over.. I'll put him in the back yard and let him go nuts :chuckle: :chuckle: tonight 6 does,3 fawns(off limits, period end of discussion there) small 3x3 which I watched for a hour and half after stocking to 15 yards, 4x4 smaller side, large bodied fork horn
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 05, 2012, 09:28:19 PM
if he doesn't get one by the time your coming this way, throw his butt in the truck and bring him over.. I'll put him in the back yard and let him go nuts :chuckle: :chuckle: tonight 6 does,3 fawns(off limits, period end of discussion there) small 3x3 which I watched for a hour and half after stocking to 15 yards, 4x4 smaller side, large bodied fork horn

1.  He'll have one by then, probably by the time I get off work tomorrow

2.  I'm going to Tonasket in late Sept for my deer and riding with Buckmark.

3.  When I go to Latah with my boys and pick up mr user and stopping by your place, it's going to be modern and he has an archery tag.

Logistics just won't work out but, refer to #1
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: 6x6in6 on September 05, 2012, 09:36:49 PM
Great thread aka.  I keep checking back for the "I done did it" post.
Keep at it, you'll have your tag punched shortly!   :)
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 05, 2012, 09:43:01 PM
oh yah that will be modern  :o this multi tag has me screwed up this year  :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Natas5150 on September 06, 2012, 07:05:49 AM
My last year bow hunting I made a rookie mistake. Me and a buddy were hunting a spot that we had been hunting for about 2 years. It was early archery and it was getting warm like to the point where we about to call it quits for the day. We figured we would give it another hour and move into a clear cut in the GMU we were hunting and sure enough we spooked 2 doe. However they were about 80-90 yrds out, just to far out of bow range. Me and my buddy decided to just sit  for awhile and wait, maybe they will come back. Here is the mistake I made I found a rather large rock to sit on in the brush, I set my bow down to get comfortable :bdid: and out the corner of my about 25 to 30 yrds out give a take a doe sprang up and hauled you know what away from us :bash:. My buddy didnt even see it because he was busy looking off in the other direction where we had seen the other 2.

Lesson learned. Never set your weapon of choice down when hunting. That should have been meat in the freezer. Since then we always hunt that area and we have seen deer there but never any success. I swear the deer are still laughing about that whole rookie mistake I made.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 06, 2012, 07:12:39 AM
Lesson learned.  If you don't learn something from every trip into the woods, you need to pay better attention to what you're doing. 
Title: rookie mistakes
Post by: eburkett on September 06, 2012, 07:14:04 AM
Hey DJ. I PM'd you.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 06, 2012, 03:40:35 PM
if he doesn't get one by the time your coming this way, throw his butt in the truck and bring him over.. I'll put him in the back yard and let him go nuts :chuckle: :chuckle: tonight 6 does,3 fawns(off limits, period end of discussion there) small 3x3 which I watched for a hour and half after stocking to 15 yards, 4x4 smaller side, large bodied fork horn

If I don't put one in the dirt by next friday, I would be willing to take you up on that offer.  I can throw my butt into my own truck and head over.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 06, 2012, 09:40:34 PM
 :tup: just let me know if and when you need it. For a meat hunter I have two different honey holes right now that are any deer, 1 stand, 1 ground blind setup, and lots of land to spot and stalk. Also sounds like double j needs to drop his truck off for the time he is here so I can get it all fixed for him  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 06, 2012, 09:50:46 PM
:tup: just let me know if and when you need it. For a meat hunter I have two different honey holes right now that are any deer, 1 stand, 1 ground blind setup, and lots of land to spot and stalk. Also sounds like double j needs to drop his truck off for the time he is here so I can get it all fixed for him  :chuckle: :chuckle:

>:(

My truck is fine.  It's just a little sick is all. :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 06, 2012, 10:09:16 PM
:tup: just let me know if and when you need it. For a meat hunter I have two different honey holes right now that are any deer, 1 stand, 1 ground blind setup, and lots of land to spot and stalk. Also sounds like double j needs to drop his truck off for the time he is here so I can get it all fixed for him  :chuckle: :chuckle:

I'm gonna keep hunting here for a while but I will send you a pm maybe next thursday night if I don't get something down before then. Already talked to the boss about it and she said that would be fine. I wouldn't be able to get over there until late next friday night.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 06, 2012, 10:22:45 PM
My nightly update...

Nothing much to talk about tonight. At first light I bout run into a doe but I wasn't ready, still had all arrows in the quiver, and she slipped away. Tried to stalk her but couldn't cut her off. Got within my range on another doe that had no Idea I was there just as I was about to lay the smack down on her a fawn started jumping playing. So I let down and watched as they walked away. Got real hot real early so I headed home to spend some time with my little one. Went back in after dinner and got setup in what I thought (and still think) was a killer spot. About 730 caught something out of the corner of my eye. Another doe, flicking her tail and cleaning herself. I watched her for about 5 mins waiting to see where she was headed. Once she did move I realized she wasn't going to come my direction. I was able to get down unnoticed from where I was and began trying to cut her off. I got into position and was ready. Then there was a real loud bang that spooked her causing her to run off with about 2 mins of light left (at least I didn't spook her) Another night done an still have this tag burning a hole in my pocket.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 06, 2012, 10:25:59 PM
You'll have to show me the killer spot this weekend
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 06, 2012, 10:29:12 PM
why do I have this feeling that if by some weirdness his tag goes unfilled till he comes over this way. That I'll take him out show him the areas and the patterns that I know of. That evening he will come walking back grinning his (bleep) off, with one of the two bucks that I decided were the only ones I was going after this year?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 06, 2012, 10:33:04 PM
You'll have to show me the killer spot this weekend

No problem  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 06, 2012, 10:38:24 PM
why do I have this feeling that if by some weirdness his tag goes unfilled till he comes over this way. That I'll take him out show him the areas and the patterns that I know of. That evening he will come walking back grinning his (bleep) off, with one of the two bucks that I decided were the only ones I was going after this year?  :chuckle:

At least I can only take one :chuckle:. I am a strict meat hunter so if you wind up showing me areas for any deer. I will do as I am now and try to put the first legal deer down. I wont hold out for a trophy just want to feed the fam.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 06, 2012, 10:51:29 PM
 :tup: you got it man, I was that way for years. This is my first year chasing a big one exclusively and its been driving me nuts sitting and watching  :drool: dinner walk around in front of me. From following your post I know I won't have to worry about you doing the right thing. If it happen where you hunt here, and the big guy screws up I fully expect you to make him pay.  :chuckle:  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 06, 2012, 11:08:28 PM
sebek,

Between mr user and akashasdaddy, we are making a pretty good team :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 06, 2012, 11:17:45 PM
I'm just getting the assist, so far your the one putting in the leg work  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 07, 2012, 11:45:48 AM
Both of you are awesome for all the help. :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 07, 2012, 11:54:20 AM
Hope you hit on Saturday.  I'm going out tonight.  A local clear cut here caught on fire last night.  They got it out last night and hopefully it's cooled enough to hunt by the end of the weekend.  I've heard and seen in multiple places where fresh burns are deer magnets because the deer eat the ash to get nutrients as well as roll around in it to remove ticks and fleas.  Don't know if it's true but I've seen and heard it enough to want to go see for myself.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 07, 2012, 04:12:17 PM
Good luck, I am going out of town to watch the Hoquiam vs Aberdeen high school football game. I grew up in Aberdeen but graduated and played football for Hoquiam. Haven't missed a game in over 10years. But I look forward to pics, send them straight to my cell. If you don't put something down tonight maybe the two of us could help eachother out sat morning.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 07, 2012, 11:10:58 PM
No hunting today went to watch a high school football game. Gonna hit the woods hard this weekend though.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 08, 2012, 09:52:46 PM
they've been out a long time today... maybe good news  :dunno:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 08, 2012, 09:56:31 PM
I got out Saturday morning and so did Justin.  Both had to quit early for family reasons.  I'll be out in the morning but I don't think Justin will be out until tomorrow night.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 08, 2012, 10:00:12 PM
ahh that's cool.. I didn't make it out today at all... pig reasons  :bash:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 08, 2012, 11:38:13 PM
Ya, I got out for about 6 hours today. Spooked 4 but could never close the gap. THis time I really do not know what I did wrong. I know they couldn't hear me, or see me, and the wind was in my favor so I don't think they could smell me :dunno:.
I did however find out where they are going to bed down and the major trail with a great choke point. I was going to help my mom with some stuff tomorrow but I am going to set up on this choke point in the morning. I feel really good about it. I told my mom I will help her on monday when my daughter is in school since I can't hunt during that time anyway. I am sure, 100%positive, this spot will produce results. Maybe not tomorrow but it will. Fingers crossed. I will end this thread with pics here soon.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 09, 2012, 12:07:22 AM
 :tup: sometimes you just don't know why they spook.. sounds like you have a plan going though.. keep after them. :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 09, 2012, 09:31:28 PM
Not much of an update tonight. I spent 16 hours in the woods and when it started raining I got very excited but, I got NOTHING. I didn't even hear a doe snort at me. This is the first time all season that I have gone a whole day without seeing at least one deer. The only deer I saw today were in city limits and the doe Double J put in the dirt this morning. I sure hope things get better, although, I only get to hunt the evening during the week.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 09, 2012, 09:35:23 PM
keep your head up man, moon phase is changing over, they will be out more  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 10, 2012, 10:35:54 PM
No hunting today so no write up. I had to spend the day helping my disabled mom, knock out the "honey-do list", and study for my test tomorrow with the Hoquiam police dept.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on September 11, 2012, 05:09:02 AM
Goodluck with the test...applying for the jail oppening?
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: bankwalker on September 11, 2012, 12:32:49 PM
Many times hearing a doe snorting at me has helped locate bucks  :tup: when that doe starts up her annoying snorting, I really start glassing hard. Usually I'll find a buck appear out of nowhere
trying locate that doe or whatever she is making a fuss about.

To bad I'm never hunting deer at that time (usually just scouting in September). But I did kill a Buck 2 years ago this way during rifle season.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 11, 2012, 11:32:35 PM
Took my daughter with me tonight, would have been perfect if I were able to close the deal but, we didn't see anything. After the hunt my daughter decided she deserved ice cream and I couldn't refuse; she did do a great job of walking slow and quiet. So once we got back to town I took her to dairy queen where she had a snickers and peanut butter cup blizzard. She had no problem eating it right in front of dear ol' dad who can't eat sweets.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 12, 2012, 06:45:55 AM
Sounds like after still hunting the past couple of times out and not seeing anything that you should go back to stalking
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 12, 2012, 05:36:28 PM
That may be what I wind up doing. Tonight I am going to check out another spot thats a little closer to home. I think that maybe I have been hunting the two areas too hard. SO I am going to give them a rest for a day or two in hopes that this weekend the deer wont feel as pressured.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 12, 2012, 09:31:29 PM
So like I said earlier, I went to check out a spot a little closer to home tonight. It was meant to be more of a scouting trip than hunting since I haven't really poked around in this area much. Been in there a time or two prior but nothing major. I get in and look around. I see a lot of sign, prints, pellets, trails you name it I saw it. I followed this one trail that was really worn down and it just happened to lead right between two trees that make a awesome choke point before ending at the timber line. I think this may be a good spot to set up my tree stand. I run back to the truck grab my stand and set it up. I dont have a ladder or a harness so I am not very high off the ground maybe 4 feet but I am hidden well with in the branches. I sit there for about an hour before I start hearing some rustling around inside the timber. Whatever it is is big and headed right at me. I get excited and get my bow ready so I am not making anymore movements than necessary when this thing comes out. I check my phone for the time and its about 25 mins before shooting light, so I have time. At 745 the thing steps out just feet from me. But its a flipping bear and a momma bear at that. Here I am maybe 4 feet off the ground and maybe 30 feet from this bear and i am freaking. I dont have a bear tag or a side arm or anything else really to scare the thing away. I decide the best thing for me to do is to sit as still as I can. If she can smell me she isn't acting like it and/or dont mind that I am there but I dont want to piss her off by moving too much. I sit and wait for about 45 mins staring at this momma and her cub. It was great fun to see but I was petrified. I dont think I will be going back to that spot at last light again.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: NBhunter on September 12, 2012, 11:51:42 PM
 :chuckle: That's how we learn! I once got a good scare and almost had to go back to the truck to change my shorts while walking to my stand early one morning and almost stepping on a turkey and it jumping up and scaring me to death.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 12, 2012, 11:59:30 PM
don't have a ladder but I have a harness you could have. I think I have like four of the things, and never use them.. I always just use my riggers belt.  Keep up the hard work,  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 13, 2012, 11:37:29 AM
don't have a ladder but I have a harness you could have. I think I have like four of the things, and never use them.. I always just use my riggers belt.  Keep up the hard work,  :tup:

Thanks anything helps. I know money is tight for everyone right now but I am also a college student living off off financial aid. I am putting in as much work as I can at the moment and planning my trip your way for next week (fingers crossed)
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Stick em on September 13, 2012, 12:12:41 PM
Looks like you've really been putting in the time to get some meat. I applaud your dedication and am sure you'll get something. Fortune favors the prepared and just being out there often gives you better odds than most hunters. I do have a guaranteed spot to harvest meat so if you get to the end of your season and havn't filled your tag send me a message. This spot is less than 2 hours from Olympia and is private property. We harvested both our deer opening day by 8:30 am and they are tasty. :drool:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 13, 2012, 06:20:58 PM
Looks like you've really been putting in the time to get some meat. I applaud your dedication and am sure you'll get something. Fortune favors the prepared and just being out there often gives you better odds than most hunters. I do have a guaranteed spot to harvest meat so if you get to the end of your season and havn't filled your tag send me a message. This spot is less than 2 hours from Olympia and is private property. We harvested both our deer opening day by 8:30 am and they are tasty. :drool:

That is great thank you. My season is pretty much over on the 23rd; I go back to school on the 24th. I have classes all day long and some saturdays. I will be very limited come late season if I need the late season.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 13, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
I've got it all set up for you on this end, you just have to get here. I will be dropping a new stand in a spot I've been looking at for yah. on top of that there is still the ground blind, plus a stand I have on another piece of property. And just so you know what you'll be trying to get the meals will be fresh backstrap and tenerlions  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 13, 2012, 11:07:03 PM
I've got it all set up for you on this end, you just have to get here. I will be dropping a new stand in a spot I've been looking at for yah. on top of that there is still the ground blind, plus a stand I have on another piece of property. And just so you know what you'll be trying to get the meals will be fresh backstrap and tenerlions  :chuckle: :chuckle:

Awesome I can't wait. I will be there earlier than I thought; my daughter doesn't have school that day. We will be leaving here at about 9am Friday morning. I hope to get a little time in Friday night if you think that is at all possible. I will only be able to hunt Friday night, Sat all day, and Sunday morning since My daughter, girlfriend and myself all go back to school Monday. (I hope this is enough time.)

Sounds like you are going to be a great host. I wish I could get over there sooner but I have this test that I have to take. I been unemployed for almost 4 years and have wanted a career in police work since I was a young kid; so I just can't pass up this opportunity.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 13, 2012, 11:15:09 PM
With Green Diamonds closures and my officer test this weekend I decided to take another night off from the hunt ,I don't like it much, but I need the study time for the the test. Took a practice test tonight and scored a solid 90%. Couple more days of study and I should be able to get that score to a 95 at least. I will be going out tomorrow night to check on some of the areas that people have suggested to me in my other post I put up last night. I am determined to end this thread with an entertaining write up and a few good pics. Thanks everyone for all the help, support,  and good vibes.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 13, 2012, 11:19:50 PM
Hey man we understand, work comes first.  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: highmuley on September 14, 2012, 03:40:39 AM
:tup: don't feel too bad, had a grouse about make me crap my pants when I was stalking a bear and it blew out next to me  :chuckle: it happens to everyone :tup:

Grouse are really, really good at this....I think they laugh as they coast down the hill side too.....*censored*s
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 14, 2012, 08:53:47 PM
Little brother called me today, said he needed to get out in the woods (woman problems  :chuckle:). So I ran down to Aberdeen to pick him up. We decided to go out to Copalis. Our sister owns a small chunk of land out that way that is usually very good for grouse and if it comes to it I plan on baiting the heck out of it for late archery. I just used this time as a scouting trip and a little time with my little brother. There was a lot of sign, a lot of grouse, and a lot of coyote crap all over. We saw two doe but they both had fawns with them so we let them walk. I didn't bring my .410 for the grouse so we came out empty handed but we had a good time and late season is looking bright. I am still hoping to fill my tag sooner than later so I can help my brother fill his first tag this season as well and he can't hunt til late season. Today was just one of those fluke days.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on September 15, 2012, 09:30:17 AM
Keep up the hard work.....how often do you come down this way? I was out elk huntin the other day and had 2 bucks  in a clearcut at 70 yds and almost txt you but it was 7 am and thought it was to early and it was only 15min from my house
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 15, 2012, 10:35:18 AM
Justin,  Why are you online and not hunting?
Title: Re: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: copasj on September 15, 2012, 10:56:03 AM
:tup: don't feel too bad, had a grouse about make me crap my pants when I was stalking a bear and it blew out next to me  :chuckle: it happens to everyone :tup:

Grouse are really, really good at this....I think they laugh as they coast down the hill side too.....*censored*s

I had one get me last year while I was walking down a gas line right of way.  Adrenalin shocked my system so bad I damn near passed out about 5 seconds after it flushed.  The worst part was the wife was with me, I'm never living that one down. 

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Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 15, 2012, 12:59:56 PM
Justin,  Why are you online and not hunting?

Sorry to disappoint you  :chuckle: :chuckle:  Daughters sick and I am studying for my officers test tomorrow.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 15, 2012, 01:24:17 PM
Justin,  Why are you online and not hunting?

Sorry to disappoint you  :chuckle: :chuckle:  Daughters sick and I am studying for my officers test tomorrow.

lol
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 15, 2012, 04:02:14 PM
Keep up the hard work.....how often do you come down this way? I was out elk huntin the other day and had 2 bucks  in a clearcut at 70 yds and almost txt you but it was 7 am and thought it was to early and it was only 15min from my house

I am in Aberdeen a lot. My family is all down that way mom,2 brothers, 3 sisters, and 10 nieces and nephews. I grew up my entire life in Aberdeen; just moved to Olympia last summer for school. I would like to eventually move back down there, thats why I am putting so much effort in this jailer job in Hoquiam.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on September 15, 2012, 06:46:13 PM
Well goodluck with the job opportunity...if you get an animal down around here shoot me a call if you still have my number and ill come help ya pack it out
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on September 15, 2012, 06:48:24 PM
Also if you dont get anything early season i have a spot i hunt for rifle i can guarantee youll see deer everyday and will take you out there late season...pm me if interested
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 15, 2012, 09:13:36 PM
Test tomorrow so no hunting for me until monday night but i do plan on tossing a line in the water behind walmart after my test. Hope to catch tomorrows diner.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: ellensburgpo on September 15, 2012, 11:22:16 PM
Good luck on the test.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 16, 2012, 07:20:05 PM
Test is done, tougher than I expected but I think I did well enough. Only need a 70% to pass. Over 100 people tested for 4 positions. So I am hoping that I scored high enough to make it to the oral boards.

I will be hunting tomorrow night so the write up should be a better read  :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 16, 2012, 07:35:18 PM
Get a job, shoot a deer.  Sounds like a hell of a couple of days!
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 16, 2012, 07:35:55 PM
It sucks ass that the lands you were hunting around here are closed.  I really wanted to be there after you shot your deer.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 16, 2012, 09:16:47 PM
Get a job, shoot a deer.  Sounds like a hell of a couple of days!
at least a hell of a to-do list  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 16, 2012, 09:18:04 PM
It sucks ass that the lands you were hunting around here are closed.  I really wanted to be there after you shot your deer.
your welcome to come along, or you could wait for the video... thinking of trying my hand at filming  :chuckle: :chuckle: no pressure, just your first bow kill, plus first time being filmed  :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 16, 2012, 09:45:29 PM
It sucks ass that the lands you were hunting around here are closed.  I really wanted to be there after you shot your deer.
your welcome to come along, or you could wait for the video... thinking of trying my hand at filming  :chuckle: :chuckle: no pressure, just your first bow kill, plus first time being filmed  :chuckle:

I don't feel any pressure. The video will be my trophy; my girl friend is so adamantly against taxi trophies I have little chance at getting a shoulder mount or anything similar until I have a home with a man cave.   
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 16, 2012, 09:48:47 PM
It sucks ass that the lands you were hunting around here are closed.  I really wanted to be there after you shot your deer.

I still have to get past a few more hurdles for the job and if/when I get my deer at seabeck's and he is able to film it I will bring the video over to your place.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 17, 2012, 06:55:49 AM
It sucks ass that the lands you were hunting around here are closed.  I really wanted to be there after you shot your deer.
your welcome to come along, or you could wait for the video... thinking of trying my hand at filming  :chuckle: :chuckle: no pressure, just your first bow kill, plus first time being filmed  :chuckle:

I'll be in Central Okanogan with Buckmark trying to fill my second tag next weekend.  Won't be able to make it over so I'll have to wait for the video
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 17, 2012, 06:56:41 AM
It sucks ass that the lands you were hunting around here are closed.  I really wanted to be there after you shot your deer.

I still have to get past a few more hurdles for the job and if/when I get my deer at seabeck's and he is able to film it I will bring the video over to your place.

Just post it to youtube so we can all see it :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 17, 2012, 09:50:50 PM
So my little brother managed to get another night off from work. He and I went out to the Quinault Ridge GMU and snooped around a bit. Saw 3 bear 2 coyote a handful of grouse 1 rabbit and a small cow elk (we think, it was running and had no antlers). We didn't run into any deer, couldn't get close enough to the coyote, don't have bear, elk,or small game tags, and don't feel comfortable enough with my archery skills to take a shot on the grouse. We had a great time and I found out my little brother is WWWAAAYYY out of shape. He stood no chance of keeping up with me in the brush or steep hill sides. He wants to borrow my "Insanity" work out discs now that I am doing the P90X stuff.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 17, 2012, 10:01:44 PM
might have to trade yah, I get you a deer you get me a bear  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 18, 2012, 07:00:49 AM
might have to trade yah, I get you a deer you get me a bear  :chuckle: :chuckle:

Me first :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 18, 2012, 09:46:39 AM
Sounds good.There are a lot of bear out there but it isn't an easy place to hunt thats for sure.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 18, 2012, 09:25:40 PM
click click click.. the clock is ticking down.. watched the little 3x3 and 4 does tonight as we spilt some kindling and moved some fire wood.. :stirthepot:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 18, 2012, 10:15:34 PM
click click click.. the clock is ticking down.. watched the little 3x3 and 4 does tonight as we spilt some kindling and moved some fire wood.. :stirthepot:

I am pissing myself with excitement for Justin to get that deer!!!
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 18, 2012, 10:17:39 PM
And if you get him a buck, cape it out for him.  If nothing else, we can get the cape to Michelle and turn those antlers into a nice antler mount for him that he can put into storage until he gets a bigger place where his girlfriend will let him put it up somewhere like the garage.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 18, 2012, 10:23:43 PM
 :tup: we will also spend a little bit of time when not hunting working on that very issue for him  :chuckle: :chuckle: if he takes a doe I have a few cool tricks up my sleeve for those as well
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 18, 2012, 10:26:06 PM
If my boys tag out on their does, you may have to pass the tricks along.  I've been wondering what to do with the doe head I've had in my freezer for 3 years now and what to do for my middle son when he gets his first.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 19, 2012, 12:52:36 AM
You two are very cruel  :chuckle:. And John don't wet yourself til it actually happens. When it does happen there will be a wet spot on me and around the deer that the I can assure you wont be deer blood  :tup:.

No write up tonight. Saving money,gas,and miles on my rig til this weekend. 12 hours of driving (round trip) in my V8 that has over 200,000 miles on her already is gonna pretty much dry up the rest of my hunting funds.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 19, 2012, 07:54:44 PM
cruel would be making you sit and watch the deer all evening on Friday and not letting you shoot one :chuckle: :chuckle:
and dude don't pee in the blind/stand I still gotta use those this year myself  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 19, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
I was the one that was going to pee, not justin
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 19, 2012, 08:39:39 PM
You two are very cruel  :chuckle:. And John don't wet yourself til it actually happens. When it does happen there will be a wet spot on me and around the deer that the I can assure you wont be deer blood  :tup:.
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hmm if it's not pee not sure if I wanna film this hunt  :o
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 19, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
And I don't think youtube will allow you to post it either
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 19, 2012, 08:49:21 PM
 :lol4:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 19, 2012, 09:07:51 PM
 :salute: Promise not to wet myself in the blind or stand;can't promise there wont be wet spots in other places. Youtube will post anything at least once  :tup:. Please don't even joke about not allowing me to take a shot friday night, it would be just my luck I wouldn't see anything the rest of the time there. Remember I have to head home sunday afternoon no matter what; the entire family starts school on monday   :bash:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 19, 2012, 09:12:05 PM
 :chuckle: the odds of not seeing anything the rest of the time you are here, pretty slim. I have two guaranteed shot opportunity spots set up for you, 1 possible. These are all fixed spots. Plus another possible spot I am working on for you. Add in spot in stalk fact that I bump deer almost daily.. think your good  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 19, 2012, 09:32:11 PM
I am so confident that you will punch your tag here, that if you can't do it I'll give you the one that's in the freezer. Man my brother's gonna be pissed  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 19, 2012, 09:51:20 PM
 :lol4:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 19, 2012, 10:55:24 PM
I am so confident that you will punch your tag here, that if you can't do it I'll give you the one that's in the freezer. Man my brother's gonna be pissed  :chuckle: :chuckle:


 :chuckle:     :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 20, 2012, 06:56:26 PM
I feel like a kid on Christmas eve, I ate all my diner, did my chores and then some  :chuckle:, Got the truck all loaded up, and I may even hit the hay early tonight. The family and I will be saddling up the ponies at about 8am and heading east for my big deer trip  :tup:. I am going to fill my tag and end this thread with some pics, dog gone it, maybe even a video  :dunno:. A big thank you goes out to everyone who has helped me out this season and to those of you who have followed this thread  :tup: over 5,000 views  :yike: I can't believe it. I hope all your good vibes you all have been sending my way help me out over the weekend. 
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 20, 2012, 06:59:14 PM
good luck man! im rootin for ya!
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 20, 2012, 07:32:24 PM
 :tup: 8 am, should put you in here by 2 or so, check and make sure everything made the trip safely, get them family settled in, and you in the blind by 4:30-5, gives you 2:30 to take your pic of which looks tasty  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on September 20, 2012, 08:12:00 PM
Goodluck...lets.see some pics after this weekend!  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 20, 2012, 08:24:15 PM
I can't wait!!!
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: fair-chase on September 20, 2012, 08:30:37 PM
Your really drawing this out aren't you.  :chuckle: Just kiddding. Best of luck, can't wait to hear how it goes.  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: brokehunter on September 20, 2012, 08:40:36 PM
I feel like a kid on Christmas eve, I ate all my diner, did my chores and then some  :chuckle:, Got the truck all loaded up, and I may even hit the hay early tonight. The family and I will be saddling up the ponies at about 8am and heading east for my big deer trip  :tup:. I am going to fill my tag and end this thread with some pics, dog gone it, maybe even a video  :dunno:. A big thank you goes out to everyone who has helped me out this season and to those of you who have followed this thread  :tup: over 5,000 views  :yike: I can't believe it. I hope all your good vibes you all have been sending my way help me out over the weekend.

Sending some prayers your way! :tup: Been following your thread from the beggining! Hope ya get something! It's making me look forward to modern! I am due for a deer! Been over 10 years since I tagged out. :yike: This is my year too! Good luck! 8)
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 20, 2012, 08:57:37 PM
Good luck man, nobody deserves some success more than you do!  Can't wait to see some pictures and hear the story...
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 22, 2012, 05:18:43 PM
update? :dunno:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 22, 2012, 10:04:07 PM
I've texted him about 3 times this weekend and haven't heard
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 23, 2012, 02:07:50 PM
Hopefully he is just busy celebrating!!!   :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 23, 2012, 02:17:41 PM
He's on his way home with a story.  Sebek, you a wonderful person.  Thank you so much for doing Justin right.  You are awesome. :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 23, 2012, 07:22:03 PM
He is home now. Didn't work out as planned but he did bag a trophy... I will let him fill you guys in on it later
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 23, 2012, 10:05:48 PM
So I arrive at Sebek's place around 2:30 pm friday afternoon. While doing the "hey how are you/nice to finally meet you's" I decide to pass out and bash my head into sebek's refrigerator. After a couple glasses of water I start feeling better so I go out to make sure my bow made the trip in tact. Everything seems fine I am hitting where I want to at 25 yards. Just I am getting ready to head into the blind sebek notices a couple does infront of the blind. I try to stalk up on them but spook 'em; so I quickly duck into the blind. Within 5 mins here come a couple more does. Sebek told me about one doe that he didn't want to me to take because she had a fawn and was kinda like the neighborhood deer and that was who was infront of me. I was VERY tempted to shoot but I held back. Soon they took off and two more does come in; a really orange one and another that was almost the color of sand. The orange one presents a shot and I take it but, the arrow sails right over the top of her  :bash: and they take off. 5-10 mins later a two point with tall eye guards (3X3 according to sebek) steps into range. I draw back and let one fly and again I shoot high  :bash: :bash:. Now I am pissed but I get back into the blind just as the orange and sand colored does come back and they are f-ing with me hard always standing one infront of the other so I can't take a shot. I wait and wait and wait, finally the sand colored one presents a shot and yet again right over the top of her  :bash: :bash: :bash:. They run but not far and I am down to my last broad head. The sand colored one must have been real hungry because she comes right back but now she is in my sweet spot 20-25 yards all the other shots were much closer and I was trying to compensate. I draw back and let it fly and I hit her she takes off to the left. After about 20 mins sebek and I start tracking. We find good blood but after about 50 yards it just stops. We continue searching until about 10pm. Sebek caught the shot on camera; so we head back to the house to review the shot. After about an hour of messing around sebek locates the shot placement. She jumped my string and I hither high on the neck. We search the internet for anatomy shots to compare trying to see if the shot was fatal. It don't look like its gonna be a fatal shot but we decide to get up early to do a little more tracking in the morning in hopes that she beds down and expires. WHile tracking sebeks wife calls to let us know she just saw my doe and she very alive, hurt but, alive. We rush to where she was last seen trying to cut her off but we can't find her. I was ready to call it a season at that but After confirming with his dad sebek tells me that the doe I shot is hurt but is gonna live and gives me the green light to keep hunting.  Heart broken I decide to practice til my arm hurts then practice some more. I even do push ups, jumping jacks, and sprints between shots to get my breathing and blood up. I practice at a closer range. I am on, even able to pick my shots; shooting all 4 corners on sebek's target. I was able to robbin hood one arrow slicing one of the fletchings right off. Sebek does a refletching job for me and I let my daughter choose the color telling her that I will use her arrow that night.  I am determined not to have a repeat of the previous night. At about 5 pm saturday night I head into the blind. Within 5 mins two spotted fawn come in. This time I have sebek's range finder in the blind with me. I know I wont shoot these fawn cause they still have spots but, I put the range finder on them just to see where they are at. They sit there for about 20 mins then they walk off. I stand up just to watch the fawns; as I am watching here comes the 2 point from the night before and he is coming in fast. I don't even have enough time to drop back down out of the window of the blind before he is within range. Within 2 mins he presents what I think is a decent shot. He quartering toward me a little but mostly broad side. I put my sight on him aiming right behind the shoulder. I let it fly and hit him; as hes running I can see my arrow sticking out his right side  :IBCOOL:. I start walking to the house to let everyone know I just filled my tag. Because of the previous nights fiasco, sebek tells me we are going to wait an hour before we start the track. This is going to be the longest hour of my life but ok, I feel very comfortable with my shot. I am treated to a delicious diner of backstrap stirfry. After diner is done sebek, his son, and I head out to track my buck. I'm thinking its gonna be an easy track so iam walking with a little spring in my step although I only got about an hour of sleep because I was stressing the doe I shot the night before. We walk up to where I shot the buck; I am totally expecting to see good sign. As we approach no one can see any blood at all. Sebek finds some poop, looks up at me and says, I think you gut shot him. I start replaying the shot in my mind then I think about the doe and now my heart sinks to my stomatch  :'(. Sebek says this is gonna be a tough track. We start tracking and find good sign about 50 yards from where I shot. We start out with an easy trail to follow. After about 100 yards we find my arrow completely covered in blood, my mood starts to pick back up but,then the trail just stops. The 3 of us search and search,sebek's son finds a big spurt ofblood with what looks like a chunk of fat in a small bed. Now we are back on the trial. It continues like that, no sign, then a big spurt followed by little drops then no sign. The deer weaves in and out and around for about 500 yards or more. We follow his trail for 2-3 hours until sebek thinks he hears a cougar or bear roaming around in the darkness. We call it a night deciding to pick backup on the trail in the morning. I wake up at 630 am this morning excited; I just know this deer is down. I am certain we are going to find him piled up close to where we left off. At 8 sebek comes out ready to trak, he even seems optimistic that we are going to find the buck pretty quickly. We find the spot we last seen blood the night before and star tracking on hands and knees looking for the smallest drip of blood. Sebek notices that some of the blood we are finding is real fresh looking; ever the optimist I remind sebek that it sprinkled a little over night. We continue the trail for another 200+ yards, crossing a road into another wooded area. We find some ok blood but nothing much. At about 10 am sebek yells for me "Justin back out" I tell him Im already on the road whats up. He says I just saw your buck but hes still alive we just jumped him.  :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:. I ask now what he says we have to leave him; hes gut shot and it could take a couple days for him to expire. :bash:. I have to leave; daughter goes back to school and my girlfriend and I both start school tomorrow. Sebek says he will keep looking for my buck and if he finds him he will hang him for me if the meat is any good but will at least make sure I get the horns. And that is the way my season ends  :'(. It wasn't all bad though I was able to bag my first turkey that according to sebek was a pretty big bird. I kept the fan,beard, and wings along with the meat. Sebk also graciously gave me half a deer that his brother took a few days earlier so I wasn't going home completely empty handed but most importantly I gained a friend. Sebek and his entire family are some of the nicest people ihave ever met in my life. They treated us as if we were part of the family. Even including my daughter in their sons birthday party. Never once did we feel unwelcome. Thank you again for a great weekend.

I appologize for the depressing ending to my season. I really wanted and tried to end this thread with pics of a deer, the best I can do is post pics of the turkey if anyone wants to see.  after wounding two animals i am feeling pretty down on myself. I hope to have a better season if I hunt again next year.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 23, 2012, 10:44:45 PM
Post up the turkey pics. That bird has atleast a five inch beard! Still searching, once i get the kids off to school in the morning me and my dad are heading back out to look for more sign. Oh and the doe is just fine she was in the yard tonight.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Stick em on September 24, 2012, 10:22:12 AM
Well it sounds like you had a season full of hard work. Those black tail can be pretty tough but that's why it's a challenge. Keep your chin up, there's always late season if your buck doesn't work out. Let's see that turkey :)
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 24, 2012, 10:53:28 AM
Went back out this morning looking again, circled back around to the spot where we left off durning the first night and started griding it off.found cougar tracks. I am going to talk to tge neibhor about setting up on it
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 24, 2012, 11:56:52 AM
Cougar probably has the deer wouldn't you think?  Injured, not moving fast, seems like easy prey
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 24, 2012, 12:27:08 PM
Will post pics of the turkey tonight after my late class should be home around 10-1030. Sebek and Double J, I sure hope the cougar didn't get my buck. I like cougars but, they are hunting machines they don't need my help feeding them selves. Stick em, I don't think I am going to have a chance to hunt late season; my class schedule is pretty packed. I know there is a lot of controversy over this particular subject but, I feel after wounding two animals, even though the doe will live, I should just punch my tag put it in the scrap book I am keeping as a hand down to my daughter or future grand children. I have the turkey and am working on curing the fan, wings, beard, and claws and I have the memories of the weekend.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: sebek556 on September 24, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
The only deer i have never recovered was taken by a cougar. It drug it up a tree, which was werid. Followed the trail found a bedding spot, then drag marks. My friend and I were really confused. Looked and looked but never foynd anything. The next morning his neighbor stopped by and told him to keep a eye on his kids there was a cougar in the area that killed a deer and drug it up a tree.
So i wouldn't rule out the cat caught up with it before I did. But I am not giving up on it until i see the buzzards circling and I find a body.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 24, 2012, 02:14:14 PM
I can see the cat sitting down after a nice venison meal and flossing with the broadhead :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on September 24, 2012, 03:21:37 PM
That really sucks about the deer...if you decide to get out late season my offer still stands
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 24, 2012, 10:02:53 PM
Hope I am doing this right, first time trying to post pics. But here are the pics of my turkey.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 24, 2012, 10:06:11 PM
Double J you are cruel, but the cat couldn't use the broad head as a pick. It was a complete pass through and I have the arrow with the broad head attached on my bookcase as my deer trophy.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 24, 2012, 10:07:25 PM
Double J you are cruel, but the cat couldn't use the broad head as a pick. It was a complete pass through and I have the arrow with the broad head attached on my bookcase as my deer trophy.


Sorry.  I was trying to bring a bit of levity to the situation.  No hard feelings meant by it.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 24, 2012, 10:08:01 PM
That's a monster frickin bird though.  Good job :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 24, 2012, 10:13:11 PM
Didn't hurt my feelings just joking around with ya  :chuckle:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: fair-chase on September 24, 2012, 10:17:07 PM
Congrats on the bird.  :tup:


Loved your story from beginning to end. Sorry it didn't turn out the way you had hoped. Still, time in the field with your daughter, a great bird, and new friends. It doesn't get much better than that. Keep your head up. No doubt you'll get it all together next time around.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 24, 2012, 10:35:18 PM
I know this isn't a taxidermy or turkey thread but, I was going to try and cure the fan and stuff myself but it is more involved that I thought. Anyone know of someone who can cure (not mount have my own idea for mounting) the fan, beard, wings, and legs for pretty cheap?
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: DoubleJ on September 24, 2012, 10:36:52 PM
Never done a bird but, to dehydrate the body parts of a deer, immersing them in salt has always worked for deer parts :dunno:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 25, 2012, 11:56:19 AM
I know this isn't a taxidermy or turkey thread but, I was going to try and cure the fan and stuff myself but it is more involved that I thought. Anyone know of someone who can cure (not mount have my own idea for mounting) the fan, beard, wings, and legs for pretty cheap?

Have you tried contacting Michelle_Nelson?  She is a member on here and has a taxidermy business not too far from you in the Rochester area.

Have not used her services, but have spoken to her with questions about potential work I was considering.  She has been very helpful and I believe honest in her responses, and not just looking to "drum-up" business for herself.

Send her a PM and see what she has to say, I wouldn't think what you are wanting done would be overly expensive, and you will probably have some time before she could get it done to cover the costs. 

Just a thought!!

Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: Clancy on September 25, 2012, 07:09:27 PM
awesome read. glad you didn't come out completely empty handed meat wise  :tup:
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: akashasdaddy on September 26, 2012, 10:02:35 PM
Thanks again everyone for all the support
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: csaaphill on September 26, 2012, 11:40:43 PM
ya whitetail deer snort a lot. I have heard them in the field I have hunted in the past many a hunt. For my :twocents: worth it seems they see you but don't recognise what you are so are trying to get you to move so they can.
Had a buck a few years ago same land just comming out of the creek bottom do this just to get me turn my head. After a few moments to check him to see if he was a 3 point or better or not I finally stood up he ran off then. But stood there snorting and stomping the ground. Deer looked pissed too for I was on no hunting but by permission so maybe he was who knows. Lol but ya whitetails snort it happens. Things surprise the best of us.
Title: Re: rookie mistakes
Post by: RadSav on September 27, 2012, 12:27:12 AM
That's a monster frickin bird though.  Good job :tup:
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