Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Kc_Kracker on September 06, 2012, 02:44:04 PM
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I have a "know-it-all" buddy that hunts, more then I have in recent years, he keeps telling me a 300 win mag was the only gun worth hunting with.
So....of course........ I got one :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Now since I bought a 300 mag he says I am just going to ruin all my meat because its too powerful and will blow a huge hole and blah blah blah.
but.. he tends to be on the know it all side, but worse, the jealous side.. true, false?
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For a rabbit, yes.
For an elephant, no.
Which one are you hunting again?
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I have a couple .I love them and hunt deer, elk and bear with them. Definitely not too much gun. Besides, how much meat you ruin has more to do with bullet you select then caliber.
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300 Mag will kill anything you can hunt here.. including moose....
IF you shoot a deer at like 15 yards.. yea, you might blow up a shoulder... but you will do fine with it...
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I shoot a .300 WM for both deer and elk. I run 180gr Barnes bullets down the barrel. Doesn't ruin much meat and the Barnes retains most of it mass. Of course I'm not shooting them in the prime meat areas either. On deer behind the shoulder or a neck shot work well. For my bull Elk hunts I'll add a shoulder shot to the options. I kind of like to break them down. Even with that I lose very little meat.
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I have a couple .I love them and hunt deer, elk and bear with them. Definitely not too much gun. Besides, how much meat you ruin has more to do with bullet you select then caliber.
I love my .300 Win mag. I use factory 180 grain loads because I don't reload, and just be careful where you shoot them and you will be fine.
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I have a "know-it-all" buddy that hunts, more then I have in recent years, he keeps telling me a 300 win mag was the only gun worth hunting with.
So....of course........ I got one :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Now since I bought a 300 mag he says I am just going to ruin all my meat because its too powerful and will blow a huge hole and blah blah blah.
but.. he tends to be on the know it all side, but worse, the jealous side.. true, false?
Just out of curiosity, what caliber does he hunt with?
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Great gun, the only reason it would be too much would be you either don't like to carry the heavier gun or don't like the extra recoil.
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Guys like that crack me up. If he's so in love with the 300WM at first but bagging on it now. What does he shoot? 'Cause I'm thinking it's not a 300WM...
I'll go ahead and guess what he's going to say about most calibers:
.243 - "Too small for deer, too big for coyotes."
.25-06 - "Can't buy ammo everywhere."
.270 - "Jack O'Connor was a closeted homosexual."
7mm RemMag - "Kicks too hard, eats barrels."
30-06 - "Boring, everybody has one."
300WM - "Blows up too much meat."
338WM - "Too much gun for deer. Makes my pu**y hurt to shoot it. Owie."
You think he's jealous now, just wait until you drop a deer with your 300WM. No matter what it is, it's gonna suck compared to the one you didn't shoot.
You have a great round. I think it is one of the best out there. What kind of rifle did you get it in?
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"Only gun worth hunting with" :chuckle: :dunno:. You'll be fine, there isn't too much meat right behind the shoulder anyways.
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Guys like that crack me up. If he's so in love with the 300WM at first but bagging on it now. What does he shoot? 'Cause I'm thinking it's not a 300WM...
I'll go ahead and guess what he's going to say about most calibers:
.243 - "Too small for deer, too big for coyotes."
.25-06 - "Can't buy ammo everywhere."
.270 - "Jack O'Connor was a closeted homosexual."
7mm RemMag - "Kicks too hard, eats barrels."
30-06 - "Boring, everybody has one."
300WM - "Blows up too much meat."
338WM - "Too much gun for deer. Makes my pu**y hurt to shoot it. Owie."
You think he's jealous now, just wait until you drop a deer with your 300WM. No matter what it is, it's gonna suck compared to the one you didn't shoot.
You have a great round. I think it is one of the best out there. What kind of rifle did you get it in?
The 30-06 one is kind of true. :chuckle:
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You have a great round. I think it is one of the best out there.
Agreed! Your "buddy" must be jealous or something.
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Heck no!! It's my number #1 choice and favorite cartridge. Ive shot a truck load of stuff with the .300 Winnie. With one of my heavy barrels, I shot 186 Rockchucks in one spring/summer. Furthest I took a Mulie with that rifle was a doe at 608 yards. All with Nosler 180 BT's and IMR 4831.
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My buddy always jokes about how he's going up to Vail opening morning to shoot a spike with milk still on it's lips in the face at 10 yards with his .300 Win Mag. This post made me think of that. :chuckle:
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"338WM - "Too much gun for deer. Makes my pu**y hurt to shoot it. Owie.""
:chuckle:
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With the bullets I use my .25-06 causes quite a bit more damage then either of my .300 mags...
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I hear stuff like that all the time. People see me with my 300 weatherby for blacktails and say its too big and blows them up, never had an issue. I did shoot my buck last year through the shoulder and it kinda messed up some meat, not bad though and I doubt a 270 or 30-06 would have been much different. I shot a couple doe antelope with it last year too, right behind the shoulder and didn't waste any meat, those things are probably about 80lbs on the hoof.
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I love my .300 win mag also and I use 190 grain for elk and bear 150 grain for deer!!
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With the bullets I use my .25-06 causes quite a bit more damage then either of my .300 mags
agree with this statement 100%, use 100gr ballistic tips in my girl's 25-35 WIN & my butcher friend asks what the heck she shoots cuz of the damage, pulled all of 'em & use something else 'cause of it.
I hear stuff like that all the time. People see me with my 300 weatherby for blacktails and say its too big and blows them up, never had an issue. I did shoot my buck last year through the shoulder and it kinda messed up some meat, not bad though and I doubt a 270 or 30-06 would have been much different. I shot a couple doe antelope with it last year too, right behind the shoulder and didn't waste any meat, those things are probably about 80lbs on the hoof.
I also owned a 300 Roy & handloaded it up & down with all kinds of bullets & used for everything from ground squirrels to buffalo (bison) & never felt overgunned 'til I broke my arm & ended up with a pin in my arm that limits my tolerance for recoil. stick with 180's for all & you'll be happy, lighter & they break up at mind creaky velocities (read close) unless you use premium hold together bullets.
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he shoots a 06 for those that asked, and when shooting i offered him some some some fun bang bang, he stepped back and said
" naw dude, im cool, that fu**er looks like it hurts" :dunno:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
so never skinning one in my life, how do i know whats ruined? :o
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Bloodshot! Cut it out as soon as possible to keep it from tainting the good meat.
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he shoots a 06 for those that asked, and when shooting i offered him some some some fun bang bang, he stepped back and said
" naw dude, im cool, that fu**er looks like it hurts" :dunno:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
so never skinning one in my life, how do i know whats ruined? :o
It will be pretty obvious what is damaged and what is not. Large, dark, bloody, torn-up patches of meat at the entry/exit site. Pretty much if you look at it and don't think you would want to eat it, then, there ya go!
One thing I have found you can do is to trim away that part as soon as you can, especially if you plan to hang before or take your meat in for processing, trimming away the bloodshot area helps to keep it from spreading into the area around it.
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300WM + 165 gr Speer SP + 54.0gr Varget = 2799fps (Hodgdon.com)
Remington factory 30-06 165gr core-lokt = 2800 fps
Just saying ::)
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I agree with Grundy53, the 300 WM is a GREAT caliber. I've hunted bear, elk, and deer with 180 Barnes and it has never let me down and NEVER been too much gun. Enjoy it!!
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The answer to your original question: "he tends to be on the know it all side, but worse, the jealous side.. true, false? " is true.
The answer to your post title: "300 mag, too much?" is no.
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:) My go to hunting rifle since 1972 has been a 300WM, custom built for me by my brother. Longest shots I ever made, only have shot 3 animals more than once, all my best mounts. yep the 300, I love the cartridge, and my rifle.
Carl
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Get a tikka t3lite .300wm and not sacrifice weight an d have an all around gun you can do ANYTHNG with! :twocents: Enough said!
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"338WM - "Too much gun for deer. Makes my pu**y hurt to shoot it. Owie.""
:chuckle:
Bahhahaha have tears rolling down my face from how you threw in the "Owie"
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Get a tikka t3lite .300wm and not sacrifice weight an d have an all around gun you can do ANYTHNG with! :twocents: Enough said!
A Tikka would be the only thing that would detour me from the chambering.
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Get a tikka t3lite .300wm and not sacrifice weight an d have an all around gun you can do ANYTHNG with! :twocents: Enough said!
A Tikka would be the only thing that would detour me from the chambering.
"Tikka t3 300WM - "Makes my pu**y hurt to shoot it. Owie.""
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I never was a magnum fan but now I own one and seen what it does to a bear and elk I kinda like it .... But I still favor my .270 when push comes to shove :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I never was a magnum fan but now I own one and seen what it does to a bear and elk I kinda like it .... But I still favor my .270 when push comes to shove :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
A friend told me anything under .375 H&H was like a fat chick, they may be fun but you don't want your buddies to see you with one. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I've never wasted much meat by shooting deer with my 300WM. If they are close, just shoot them in the head or neck. If they are a ways out there, shoot them behind the shoulder and double-lung them. Not much wasted meat that way............
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I never was a magnum fan but now I own one and seen what it does to a bear and elk I kinda like it .... But I still favor my .270 when push comes to shove :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I had one for awhile, but prefer smaller myself as well. Just didn't work out between me and it so it moved on.
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I love my 300- never ruined any more meat than with any other caliber- Damaged meat is mainly about shot placement. Mine is a savage with synthetic stock so it is nice and light for packing. If I hold it wrong when I shot I can get bruised up a bit but that's my fault for not shouldering it right. As long as I pull it in nice and tight I can shoot as much as I need to. Also I must say ---------------------- THIS THREAD IS USELESS WITHOUT PICS-------------------
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i just like having a caliber that's enjoyable to shoot. for what i do, the big magnums aren't really my first choice. i won't knock anyone's caliber choice, though.
if i ever get into reloading, that could always change...
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I use the Remington Managed Recoil loads in my 300WM for deer hunting. They shoot like a .308.
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I hunted with a Remington 700BDL in 300 mag for years in California and Utah with no issues but I also hand loaded and built loads for what I was hunting. Best of many worlds 150 grain round noes for Whitetail and black tail 165 grain Nosler BT for Utah Mulies and larger game. Great gun wish I had kept it.
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I love my .300 win mag. I have a rem. 700 with drop box. I do reload but favor factory federal .180 grain nosler bullets for elk and .150 gr core lokt for deer. Just place the bullet right and you won't have any issues. The gun can seriously reach out and touch an animal.
First time last year (ever) I shot an elk twice with it. The shot was 350 yds, once thru the neck and the other thru the boiler house. The 2nd shot did damage to left shld coming out, But I have seen 30.06 do a lot worse than a 300 can.
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Get a tikka t3lite .300wm and not sacrifice weight an d have an all around gun you can do ANYTHNG with! :twocents: Enough said!
A Tikka would be the only thing that would detour me from the chambering.
"Tikka t3 300WM - "Makes my pu**y hurt to shoot it. Owie.""
Should be holding it against your shoulder not between your legs. :chuckle: :chuckle:
:DOH:
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so never skinning one in my life, how do i know whats ruined? :o
If you do not need to grind it to make burgers it's probably ruined. :o
grundy53's response was nearly word for word what I was thinking. All about the bullet choice. And with the 300WM you have A LOT of choices :tup:
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300WM + 165 gr Speer SP + 54.0gr Varget = 2799fps (Hodgdon.com)
Remington factory 30-06 165gr core-lokt = 2800 fps
Just saying ::)
Say What :dunno:
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At 100 yards 300 Win Mag is 300 ftps faster with a 165 on average over a 30-06
30-06 = 2540
300 Win Mag = 2846
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What is this guy shooting Texas heart shots? If you shoot for the heart & lungs how are you going to ruin any decent meat?
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Dead is dead. Theres no such thing as to much gun. :tup:
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Really like my 300WM(this is my 4th, finally the last one) not too much gun. And as to damage the bullet tell the tale(tail). Made a bad shot on a black tail bouncing away once, was going for the head/neck and when the trigger broke saw butt. Bullet passed just right of spine and out though the heart. And was really surprised at the small amout of damage. Barnes 180 gr at 3000 fps.
LEN
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You will love it! It is the only gun I need for everything I will hunt. I prefer behind the shoulder shots but it is a personal thing for everyone. Wide range of ammo choices for what ever species u want to hunt. A relaxed shooter will not be bothered by the recoil. The only time the weight of the gun might be a problem is if u r packing in with minimal gear. Good luck!