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Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: TripleB on September 11, 2012, 08:42:13 PM

Title: wolves
Post by: TripleB on September 11, 2012, 08:42:13 PM: Well we were up on johnsten ridge by mt st Helen's right. At daylight was watching elk. I know and swear and would be anything i had that i heard wolves howling. Sat there a while. Didn't see anything through binos or the spotting score. So i drove back town the spirit lake hwy and went up the 4100 then cut on to the 4200 went up to castle lake ridge which is about 23 +/- miles and there was a guy up there looking at elk probably 200 head. He told me he just spotted 4 wolves on the other side of coldwater
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Post by: TripleB on September 11, 2012, 08:46:40 PM: What do you think?
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Post by: Kola16 on September 11, 2012, 08:47:55 PM: I think you should report it :twocents:
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Post by: sebek556 on September 11, 2012, 08:56:11 PM: :yeah: if your sure you know what you heard report it.. it is the only legal way to get us out of this mess the wdfw put us in
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Post by: h2ofowlr on September 11, 2012, 08:59:35 PM: They are there. We had them howling at the top end of the mudflow last year. I had several locals claim they had ran across them shed hunting as well. But as long as the DFW deny claims, shoot them big yotes.

We had ran into the pack at the mile post marker 34 up the spirit lake HWY. They were less than 100 yards from us in the canyon. I wish I had a call at that time as I had my camera. The long drawn out howls last for about 6-10 minutes with multiple wolves. Same howling as I was hearing in Idaho when they were around us.

I started a thread on this last year when we ran into them.
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Post by: Wyoming08 on September 11, 2012, 10:24:47 PM: :bash: YES!!! They have been there for quite a while. I told Bearpaw about them several years ago! We were way up in the Toutle, and heard a bunch of Yotes, and started calling to them, when we heard several of the long drawn out calls. The yotes shut up instantly! :dunno:

You know the feeling when the hair on the back of your neck stands up and something just ain't right up in the woods...ya that happened!!! :yeah:

Same sounds in the G unit up in Wyoming back in 08...

They aren't suppose to be in my backyard yet...According to our WDFW? :tup: They are so smart! :ass:
Title: Re: wolves
Post by: h2ofowlr on September 11, 2012, 10:58:11 PM: They had the elk spooked in the mudflow pretty good.

I have heard of them being dropped there for years. Also heard rumors of guys releasing the wolf hybrids that used to be by the power canal at the top end of Lake Merwin up in the woods. Not really sure. Also lots of back woods talk of those that have been thinning them out. That's just hear say from the guys wearing the tripple SSS shirts. But you never know. Could have been the old timer that started the big foot story prior to passing away.

All I know is the wolf huggers are pushing hard to make the pack grow, so elk don't starve. But with all the development that will start happening up around the mountain within the next 10-15 years do they really know what kind of problem they will be creating? All the old timers will start pulling there strychnine out again to fix the problem again.
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Post by: bearpaw on September 12, 2012, 06:10:15 AM: TripleB
Would you copy and paste your wolf info to the wolf sightings topic?

http://66.79.167.110/~huntingw/smf/index.php/topic,79244.0.html (http://66.79.167.110/~huntingw/smf/index.php/topic,79244.0.html)

Thanks, Dale
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Post by: shedkid on September 15, 2012, 09:03:15 AM: Tree huggers seeing coyotes once again.
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Post by: villageidiot on September 16, 2012, 08:18:55 PM: If you have a wolf sighting do not report it to WDFW. It will disappear. Report it here on this site and they can't deny the report. You can report it to them after you report it here then they can't deny the report. Can you trust a fox in your chicken house? Tell the farmer first and he will believe you.
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Post by: CavemantheHunter on September 17, 2012, 08:04:05 AM: I know this is a hotly contested opinion and I'm not sure how reliable the source is and how/where they got their knowledge, but my cousin (who lives in Castle Rock) took his hunter's safety course in Toutle this year and the instructor told them that there had been wolves planted in St. Helen's last year.
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Post by: fish-on37 on September 25, 2012, 07:22:39 PM: Wonderful, I drew a pumice plains cow tag and will be down in the middle of it.
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Post by: TripleB on September 26, 2012, 09:57:37 AM: Shoot all the big coyotes you see
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Post by: pianoman9701 on September 26, 2012, 10:44:34 AM: Quote from: TripleB on September 11, 2012, 08:42:13 PM
Well we were up on johnsten ridge by mt st Helen's right. At daylight was watching elk. I know and swear and would be anything i had that i heard wolves howling. Sat there a while. Didn't see anything through binos or the spotting score. So i drove back town the spirit lake hwy and went up the 4100 then cut on to the 4200 went up to castle lake ridge which is about 23 +/- miles and there was a guy up there looking at elk probably 200 head. He told me he just spotted 4 wolves on the other side of coldwater

Absolutely report it. I saw one in the 520 last late archery season. Give them GPS, date, time. There's also a thread in the wolf section for reporting.
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Post by: Salmo on September 26, 2012, 04:43:39 PM: I heard 3 yrs ago and continue to hear stories of wolves that were released by the state up St. Helens.. Wouldn't doubt it a bit. They'd rather wolves ate elk in over crowded wintering grounds that let sportsmen spend money on tags..
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Post by: pianoman9701 on September 27, 2012, 05:40:05 AM: They don't have to release wolves. Wolves travel long distances on their own. It's absolutely conceivable that wolves have taken up in St. Helens on their own.
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Post by: villageidiot on September 27, 2012, 06:57:57 AM: People keep bringing up whether WDFW released the wolves. What does it matter? We all know that these are not native, carry a deadly disease, kill cattle , wipe out our game herds and nothing much is done. The govt. forgives themselves. They are the ones that decide if it's legal or not. Do you think the govt. will punish themselves for anything? So if somebody does come up with proof they were released it will raise peoples hackles for a while and then die off. These wolves carry Saint status. They can murder, harrass, destroy peoples livlihoods and wipe out game herds and will be forgiven.
We have our 15 packs already. We just have to convince WDFW we have them. This is the biggest hurdle is to prove it to them. The bio's don't get out of the office and spend much time looking at computer models and believe they have much more wisdom than any toothless, ignorant hunter or farmer. We have to be persistent.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on September 27, 2012, 07:10:18 AM: Quote from: villageidiot on September 27, 2012, 06:57:57 AM
People keep bringing up whether WDFW released the wolves. What does it matter? We all know that these are not native, carry a deadly disease, kill cattle , wipe out our game herds and nothing much is done. The govt. forgives themselves. They are the ones that decide if it's legal or not. Do you think the govt. will punish themselves for anything? So if somebody does come up with proof they were released it will raise peoples hackles for a while and then die off. These wolves carry Saint status. They can murder, harrass, destroy peoples livlihoods and wipe out game herds and will be forgiven.
We have our 15 packs already. We just have to convince WDFW we have them. This is the biggest hurdle is to prove it to them. The bio's don't get out of the office and spend much time looking at computer models and believe they have much more wisdom than any toothless, ignorant hunter or farmer. We have to be persistent.

Actually, proof f release carries stiff federal penalties. This would not be forgotten. It's unlikely that someone on the taxpayer's teet would be this stupid. It would not only end their career but quite possibly carry criminal indictments.
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Post by: boneaddict on September 27, 2012, 07:10:28 AM: Quote
We have our 15 packs already. We just have to convince WDFW we have them.

consider a third of them reside in the Methow Valley and they are labelled as ONE, thats kind of hard.