Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: CoryTDF on September 15, 2012, 08:09:16 AM
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Just had a conversation with a guy at work about the 800lb black bear that he almost shot last night! LOL :chuckle: I love how big people say bears are. I have personally seen a 400lb. bear and it was F-ing huge. Most people would crap in their camo if they ever saw one as big as that. How often do you hear stories from people about HUGE bears? I know there are some big ones out there but lets be honest 99% of people don’t see them. I always get a laugh out of the crazy stories that I hear about HUGE bears. Found this quote while researching average bear weights and thought it was appropriate.
Adolph Murie, the famous naturalist, once said, "A bear a long distance from a scale always weighs more."
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lol, kinda sounds like the guys on kjr the other day talking about how big cougars are, around 350 to 400lbs tops! :chuckle: it was pretty funny!
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I get a kickout of it too Cory. I see it all the time on here. Most now only say 300 pounders though, course they are more like 100 pounders. :chuckle: A 400 pound bear in this state is an absolute giant monster.
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You hear it all the time, about all the 300lbs bears people see. My buddy put up a trail cam a few years ago over some apples. Best we could tell there were 6 different adult bears coming in. All between 100 and maybe 200 pounds. But no 300lbs bears :dunno:
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I talked to one of the construction workers on Sherman pass and he said he seen a 600 pounder the other day walking down the highway the other day. This made my day.
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I've been in on a bunch of bear kills, and 85% are 200 and under. I do not think I've ever seen one over 400 in person.
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Maybe he was at the zoo and saw one of the grizzy bears :dunno:
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It's funny .. We had a guy years ago tell us about a 1200 lb sow with 600 lb calico cubs!! This was in twist. He was dead serious about his story.. I could not believe what I was hearing .
I have taken 2 legitimate 375-425 lb bears.. 6'7 nose to tail before skinned
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I don't know what people are thinking. Some of the people that post that stuff you expect it from them. Other just shock me, good hunters that just have no clue. People see a big bulky bear and swear they are all 300-400lbs. If I cant put it on a scale. I will always under guess them. I have only got one of mine on a scale and put the other ones atleast 20-50lbs under what they proabably would have come in at. It just makes people look very, well dumb to post a 150 bear and call it 300 or a 200lber and call it 400.
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I know a guy that shot a 600+ pounder outta Kitsap county..... But yes most people over judge them.... My buddy called me last night to help him lift a 400# boar on the game cart then into his truck and then hang it at his place.... He picked me up and when we got there in the dark it was more like a 250 pounder when it still had guts in him.... :chuckle: Nice bear but not a 400er!!!! Close to 5' 8" from head to tail..... Didn't help that my friend is 5' 5" 135# :chuckle: Couldn't wrestle a squirrel!!!
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The biggest bear I have seen from this state was 464 pound boar and that thing was scary big. My buddy couldnt move the damn thing after he shot it so he got on the CB (Yes, CB....it was the 80's ya know). He got a response from some loggers up higher on the mountain (Pilchuck). They said they were fogged in and the whole crew came down to help. They just about crapped their pants when they saw how big the bear was. :chuckle:
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We heard last fall during deer season about a 600 lb. bear taken up in the Colockum last year... We were talking to a couple that was driving by as we were hoofing it back to the truck... They seemed pretty sincere, but who knows...
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Isn't the state average for harvested black bear in this state like 150 pounds???? We used to have some friends that always claimed to have a 300 to 400 pounder hanging....get there and find out it was more like 150 maybe 200....
Biggest bear I have ever seen alive or dead, my dad harvest back in i believe 1992.....Without being gutted out and weighed on truck scales it was 523 pounds.....Ya ya I know....Unbelievable!! They don't grow that big!!! Well, a couple guys on here have seen the rug and they could not believe the size of it (everyone that has seen it comments on how funny it's small head looks compared to rest of the bear, well the taxi that did the bear said he used the biggest head mount they make for a black bear and it is not near big enough! have another one hanging right next to it that was just over 400 pounds and they have the same size mounted head yet bodies are way different).....took 8 of us to load it into the back of a 1977 ford short box and with it's head bent around the front corner we still couldn't get the tail gate shut without further work......Still wish we could have got it measured before my simple life southern grandfather decided to get tipsy and throw out the skull with the trash!
What i find funny are all the guys that have killed 200 pound fully dressed out, hanging meat, mule deer! A butcher in Leavenworth has been doing game animals for god knows how many years and he says he has only seen i believe 3 bucks ever dress out over that mark! Yet every year there seem to be bunches of them taken!
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I think I remember an Outdoor Life article back when I was a kid talking about swamps in North Carolina and up in PA putting out bears up to 700 pounds......Any of you ever hear anything about those claims????
Just did a short search on Google......All I can say is I want to hunt Black Bears on the east coast!!! Holy CRAP!!!!!! LoL
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There is some monsters that grow down there. I have seen some of the videos of the carolina bears and they are some monsters. There can be big any place. Every animal out there has some with super genitics and they grown to monster size. Either in horns or in this case body weight. Skull is the only thing that matters if people want to judge the size of the trophy. Weight is so blown up now days the skull size is the only real thing to go by.
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I seen one bear over 400lbs, I stalked within 50 yards of it this year so I had a very good look at it. I passed up shooting it because I was by myself, no pack frame, and on the Olympic national park boundary quite a hike from my vehicle.
And a bear that size deserves a lot better chase of not going to waste/spoiling while I gave a pathetic attempt to get it off the mountain
I do admit though, I was very bad at judging bears in the past (still not the greatest)...but after joining this site and seeing a good number of bears posted along side the guys who killed them it helps give a honest size comparison
Beside that one huge bear. I doubt I have seen more than one other bear over 300lbs. The biggest I've looked to be about 200-250 at very most. Most look like average size dogs
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Lots of monster bear stories out there. :chuckle: My good buddy shot a 300 pounder two years ago and that was the biggest bear we had seen in two seasons of hard hunting. This year i saw this guy in person once and about sh** myself. Biggest bears ive seen anywhere in the state have been in kitsap county.
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We have caught one bear at 468 weighed. And maybe two more in the fours and ten in the threes most bears we catch are 250 and lower. Just not enough food or long enough of a season for them to gorge themselves. To get really big. ( just in my opinion)
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Laugh if you want, but I've seen several 800 pound bears, and have gotten pics of a couple of them.
I'll prove it to you. As soon as I find my camera, Ill upload the pics.
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And if you don't believe me, just check the Big foot thread.
My Big foot pics are LEGEND!!!
Speaking of 800 pound bears, I rarely shoot anything smaller. Carry on.
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And if you don't believe me, just check the Big foot thread.
My Big foot pics are LEGEND!!!
Speaking of 800 pound bears, I rarely shoot anything smaller. Carry on.
Is that anywhere near c-post by any chance (sorry had to say it since Rtspring, or miles hadn't yet)
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There is tons of 800 pound black bear sign all aound C-Post. How did you know?
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Damn bear can be anorexic and weigh 150 lbs. as long as he has a 23 in. skull!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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:chuckle: I used to work with a young guy that told us all with a straight face that he wont even consider shooting a bear under 400 lbs. He swears that he has shot a bunch but he has no pics to prove it. Hunts near Quilcene. Say's his ex-wife took all the photo albums. Had some great stories also. This is the same person who swears on his families life that over near Curlew he see's a thousand deer a day. All you have to do is show up and pic your deer. He never did take one of us hunting with him. Some people have all the luck! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: Even if it's just in their heads!
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So I buy the tag every year but have only made it out bear hunting once. No expert :) I grew up in upper Michigan and I remember people talking about big bears all the time. 400-800 lbs. Do they get bigger up there or do the people have the same hard time guessing size?
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My buddy shot a bear last night. Took it to the truck scales and it went 8,000,000,000,000,000,000,000lbs. No *censored* no lie. :chuckle:
seriously though he shot a really nice bear with a hollow white diamond on it's chest. Very cool looking bear thinking it weighed a little over 200# cant be sure as it never hit a scale but that is my best guess.
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Wasnt there one killed last year in Minnesota or some place that direction that actually was an 800 pounder? It was killed in a wheat field by a farm or something to that extent. I remember reading the article on here about it because it was in the news about how F-ing huge it was.
I have seen a few in the wild that I would guess are in between 300 and 400 and that is a SCARY huge bear but a 800 lbs one I would assume would look like a VW beetle walking thru the woods and I have yet to see one to verify they exist, ... yet :chuckle:
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I seem to go the opposite and underestimate bears. I have passed bears because they were "too small", only to help someone pack out bears that were the same size, and scaled 175 after being gutted. My buddy shot one from a tree stand last week, he called on the radio and wouldn't get out cause there were other bears growling and carrying on ( he had his bow) and it got dark. So we walked into his stand, with guns drawn, and got him out. Tracked the bear 40 yards and it was piled up. WHen I came under the branches and seen it, looked like a 150lb sow piled up. When we started rolling it over to gut it, well it was a boar well over 200, nice fatty and 5'8" nose to tail. Pretty bear too a nice dark cinnamon.
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Found this but have to realize these are rare. I got the information from
http://www.americanbear.org/Size.htm (http://www.americanbear.org/Size.htm)
I dont think we will be seeing anything like this in Washington state.
What is the record weight of an American black bear?
The world record weight for an American black bear is 880 pounds. This was the recorded weight of a 10.75 year-old male bear shot in North Carolina in November 1998.
A black bear was hit and killed by a car near Winnipeg Canada, in 2001. The official recorded weight was 856.5 pounds, but it is estimated that the live weight of this large male was more than 886 pounds. The driver was not injured and there appeared to be little damage to the Mazda.
An 805-pound male American black bear was shot in Manitoba Canada, and in Pennsylvania males fairly consistently reach the record weight of 800+ pounds.
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Not to jack the thread but can you guess the score and weight from the skulls? Left was my 2011 Bear and right my 2010 bear. Both bears are on this site.
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Ill have to try and scrounge up the pic of the bear my friend's cousin shot last year. It was over on the peninsula on private land. It had been eating apples from a guys property for 4+ years. Shot and hung it weighed 527 pounds, it was the biggest pictured blackie i have ever seen in this state. It's belly was at MOST 9-12" off the ground. Ill look for the pic!
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I saw an article and pic of a bear in Oregon that went over 800 lbs if I remember correctly. Early 90's I think. It was eating out of dumpsters.
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the state record black bear was maybe 350lbs..I saw a 300lb WA bear that had a 21" skull..u cannot not determine weight on skull size
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most bears i have seen are around 100-300 pound range but i have seen two over 500 pounds one was 7-6 squared and had a 21 3/16 inch skull and the other was almost 8 feet but was shot in the head and couldnt be measured but we guess around 22.. Both came from east king county.. but 800 pounds! Lol.. That is kodiak size!
