Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 17, 2012, 08:06:22 AM
so, first and foremost, i have no idea what kind of arrows or tips we should be looking at for deer/elk/bear :dunno: and guess I better go get a few bales of hay to shoot at :chuckle:
Post by: 92xj on September 17, 2012, 08:16:41 AM
Post by: Johnb317 on September 17, 2012, 08:21:49 AM
Broadheads get slick tricks... but have her practice with field points.
btw - sooner isn't necessarily better .... rut had not started on wetside.
Compound bow- don't go too cheap.... if you live in greater Seattle area check out Knockpoint, and I've heard good things about the guys at Outdoor Emporium in the SODO district. However the Knockpoint has a 20 yd range where they can teach her how to shoot.
so she read Hunger Games?
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 17, 2012, 08:27:03 AM
Post by: Johnb317 on September 17, 2012, 08:28:40 AM
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 17, 2012, 08:32:55 AM
sorry if this is VERY stupid question but i have not hunted in 30 years, and that was in the backwoods of Tennessee , trying to relearn all the regs.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 17, 2012, 08:38:24 AM
Post by: Elk whack master on September 17, 2012, 08:40:46 AM
Post by: Johnb317 on September 17, 2012, 08:44:30 AM
Legal or not, depending on your property size it might not be a good idea.
Stray arrow hitting neighbors house, or following the blood trail and gutting the deer on a neighbors yard may not be too good for hunter/tree hugger relations.
You then get politicians involved, new laws.... not good for hunters.
Specially if that deer in your backyard is "Bambi" to your neighbors.
In other words, unless your on a lot of acreage and in the middle of said land :bdid:
Take her out in the woods for the full meal deal.... hunting, not gathering Just my opinion.
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 17, 2012, 08:52:43 AM
and yes, following a blood trailer into a neighbors patio would be very bad :chuckle:
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 17, 2012, 01:02:08 PM
Post by: 92xj on September 17, 2012, 01:10:50 PM
lookin at bows, they all say left handed, i never knew there was so many LH people, or does that mean for LH meaning hold the3 bow in your LH ? :dunno:
No, a left handed bow is for a left handed person. A left handed person will hold a bow with thier right hand.
Post by: oldleclercrd on September 17, 2012, 01:23:28 PM
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Post by: h20hunter on September 17, 2012, 02:42:31 PM
Post by: h20hunter on September 17, 2012, 02:45:44 PM
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/spo/3248234716.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/spo/3248234716.html)
http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/spo/3274863889.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/spo/3274863889.html)
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on September 17, 2012, 03:45:06 PM
Post by: copasj on September 17, 2012, 03:46:14 PM
We had the owner of a pro-shop choose her arrows and heads. There is a lot of stuff that goes into picking the right arrow. They put her in 100 grain heads and 26" 600 spine arrows to make weight and still be able to flex enough to fly right.
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Post by: Bob33 on September 17, 2012, 04:04:13 PM
http://www.kingcounty.gov/operations/GIS/Maps/VMC/~/media/operations/GIS/maps/vmc/images/NSArea_Map_586.ashx (http://www.kingcounty.gov/operations/GIS/Maps/VMC/~/media/operations/GIS/maps/vmc/images/NSArea_Map_586.ashx)
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 17, 2012, 04:08:06 PM
Post by: huntnphool on September 17, 2012, 04:12:36 PM
Post by: Stick em on September 17, 2012, 04:36:07 PM
Cabelas has a youth/womans bow called the "Diamond-razors edge". Its a 30-60 lb bow and has a ton of draw length adjustment. The bow comes in camo or pink and i believe was on sale for just under $300. My wife shoots that same bow and has killed 2 bucks and a bear with it. Your tip weight should be around 85 for youth. Muzzy has inexpensive yet quality broadheads. Dont forget, the minimum draw weight is 40# and shes gonna need all of that to kill an elk. My wifes draw weight is 45#. Goodluck.This is a great bow (I'm a bowtech lover), got one for my 13 year old and it shoots great. We changed to a drop-away and it just got better. This is a bow that will grow with the archer and is top shelf. :tup: I have to agree that it is very late to try bow hunting this year unless she has put down an animal before. I was always taught to shoot an animal you have to be able to hit a grapefruit at 30yrds 4 out of 6. The rush is the hardest part and you have to have your form down before you get close. I would run 100gr broadheads (I'm a muzzy guy) and you'll want to consult a pro for the right arrow spine. Probably a 400 will get you close. FYI, Ebay has great deals on bows come march & april. That will give her plenty of time to practice and get to some archery shoots. Cedar Bowman Club is close to you and the guy's there will help her.
Post by: bowpredator on September 17, 2012, 04:50:51 PM
Post by: Johnb317 on September 17, 2012, 05:21:52 PM
Shooting at a range, and even shooting at 3d targets, is not the same as shooting at a live animal where a miss can mean long tracking or worse a wounded and lost animal. If your daughter is new to hunting there is a whole lot of education that needs to happen.
Not just shooting, but ethics, animal anatomy and the like. but then again she does need to take the hunter safety and bow classes at that age.
Practice Practice Practice..... btw - I like Kenmore range in Bothell as it has great terrain to work on uphill and downhill shots.
Post by: brianb231 on September 17, 2012, 05:31:49 PM
I'm just putting this out there and will probably get some HEAT from what I'm about to ask and I'm sure I speak for a lot of bowhunters and archers, but please don't just go out there and buy her a bow and have her start hunting with out having her put in a great deal of practice. And when I mean practice , I mean consistently shooting the bow for a few months. In my opinion she probably should not even hunt this year but plan on having her ready for next September. If she has not shot a bow before and is new to shooting it takes a while to become proficient to hunt with a bow. Spend the time shooting and take her to some local 3-d shoots to get her use to shooting in hunting situations, believe me it will pay off greatly and it will build her confidence for when she takes that shot at a live animal. I am asking this of you because I have seen it with my own eyes, grown men picking up brand new bows, shooting them very little and going out and flinging arrows at animals at all sorts of distances just because they were doing it at the range. I would hate to see her get a bad shot on an animal and loose it due to not getting enough practice. Thank you.
As a veteran bowhunter, I would also agree with this completely. I think it is fantastic to get involved with Archery bowhunting, but rushing into it in the middle of a season for a first timer could turn into a real bad idea. But the thought of getting your daughter out there with you hunting is AWESOME!!!!!
I wish you the best of luck!
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 17, 2012, 08:30:10 PM
is this a good one? doesnt really look like its worth $400 ? http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/spo/3261152494.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/spo/3261152494.html)
so this seller has come down to earth value wise, and lookin to just trade, is this a worthwhile bow for big game?
Post by: sebek556 on September 17, 2012, 08:36:51 PM
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 17, 2012, 08:40:08 PM
is this a good one? doesnt really look like its worth $400 ? http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/spo/3261152494.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/spo/3261152494.html)
so this seller has come down to earth value wise, and lookin to just trade, is this a worthwhile bow for big game?
Post by: hughjorgan on September 17, 2012, 08:48:48 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 17, 2012, 08:49:23 PM
Post by: sebek556 on September 17, 2012, 08:56:11 PM
Post by: Kola16 on September 17, 2012, 08:58:07 PM
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 17, 2012, 09:58:24 PM
i would not trade the fart that is still lingering around me for that thing. :twocents:
nuff said, thanks guys :tup: ijust found out its a 1987, it was called "Rambo".. omfg its old :o
what about this one, looks MUCH newer. http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bar/3244620573.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bar/3244620573.html)
Post by: Disturbed1 on September 17, 2012, 10:16:07 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on September 17, 2012, 10:18:38 PM
i would not trade the fart that is still lingering around me for that thing. :twocents:
nuff said, thanks guys :tup: ijust found out its a 1987, it was called "Rambo".. omfg its old :o
what about this one, looks MUCH newer. http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bar/3244620573.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bar/3244620573.html)
Don't be in such a hurry to buy a bow, like has been stated in previous posts hunting with a bow is going to take a lot more practice and time to do so. Drive yourself out to puyallup and see Doug at great northwest archery and get measured for draw length and see a bout shooting some different poundage bows so you can be fitted properly for hunting. Take any one else with you and have them do the same. A bow is not one size fits all. You need to take your time and do some research. Plan on hunting the rifle season this year then get your bow during the off season and practice, practice, practice.
Post by: h2ofowlr on September 17, 2012, 11:03:46 PM
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 17, 2012, 11:21:19 PM
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 18, 2012, 09:22:19 AM
Post by: Natas5150 on September 18, 2012, 01:59:07 PM
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 18, 2012, 03:29:41 PM
Kc how much time do you have behind a bow? Just curious.off and on about 5 years :tup: a few years at my gun club on the range but not hunting, but i need to learn better techniques and one for me, I only shot my buddies bow set up for him, . sadly i dont know ANY of the technical stuff and terms you guys use, which has been my biggest challenge the last week trying to read alot and catch on :o
Post by: WonkyWapiti on September 18, 2012, 08:05:10 PM
I live just west of you and if you want we could just meet for coffee at Four Corners and just go over a bunch of archery stuff and answer a bunch of questions for you in person. I don't know everything but I'd be willing to help get you started in the right direction.
Post by: sebek556 on September 18, 2012, 08:08:27 PM
Post by: Yeti on September 18, 2012, 08:32:58 PM
All right here's my :twocents:. If you are gonna spend $400 on a bow dont buy anything older than 5 years. You are doing the right thing about asking guys here :tup: You can find a good used bowtech/hoyt/Matthews around that prolly closer to 500 set up. If you are buying used off craigslist find a local archery shop to go to ( cabelas doesnt qualify) and have some one look at it like a car, meet the seller there. It truly is an investment that will last a long time.
Arrows I will say cabelas generic carbon arrows are good. I have a buddy who swears by them. They can be about half the price of the top of the line Carbon Express or Eastons. Final arrow weight is minimum 300 grains or 6grains per lb of draw weight ( i think). Most likely you will be around 350-420 grains, so I would shoot 100 grain heads.
Post by: sebek556 on September 18, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 18, 2012, 09:27:04 PM
Bear Whitetail II- currently at 32" draw, 70# weight. came with graphite arrows camo'd out, and a few practice ones, a wrist strap & release, and a deer call and a elk call. all for trade for a older RC car that my son dont use anymore, im cool with it :IBCOOL:
Post by: bobcat on September 18, 2012, 10:07:52 PM
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 19, 2012, 07:12:24 AM
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Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 19, 2012, 07:39:01 AM
Post by: rippinlips22 on September 19, 2012, 08:22:13 AM
so i have a big, probably dumb, Q about archery hunting regs. i live in covington, thats in GMU454, which is open now, and our area is crawling with deer n elk. If i see one standing in my backyard, and since its not considered a firearm discharge in city limits, can i legally drop him right there?
sorry if this is VERY stupid question but i have not hunted in 30 years, and that was in the backwoods of Tennessee , trying to relearn all the regs.
Doubt you are going to drop the animal right there with a bow. I would be careful, depending on how large your property is. Deer and especially elk will more than likely travel a ways after poked with an arrow. You wouldn't want to lose an animal because it expires on someone else's property that won't allow you to retrieve it...
Just something to think about! Good luck and good on you getting the girl out archery hunting! You will love it as well!
Post by: Stick em on September 19, 2012, 04:14:13 PM
:yeah: If you stick one and it goes to another property, knock on the door to get permission before you go on the property. You have the right to retrieve the animal but not to trespass. If the owner won't let you on you will have to call the game dept to get it. Most people don't want a injured or dead animal on their property so they will let you get it. I always offer some of the meat to the land owner and usually make a friend out of it. :twocents: As far as if you can shoot, I would suggest you call the game dept, local sheriff and local police. Some places have a no projectile zone. Good Luckso i have a big, probably dumb, Q about archery hunting regs. i live in covington, thats in GMU454, which is open now, and our area is crawling with deer n elk. If i see one standing in my backyard, and since its not considered a firearm discharge in city limits, can i legally drop him right there?
sorry if this is VERY stupid question but i have not hunted in 30 years, and that was in the backwoods of Tennessee , trying to relearn all the regs.
Doubt you are going to drop the animal right there with a bow. I would be careful, depending on how large your property is. Deer and especially elk will more than likely travel a ways after poked with an arrow. You wouldn't want to lose an animal because it expires on someone else's property that won't allow you to retrieve it...
Just something to think about! Good luck and good on you getting the girl out archery hunting! You will love it as well!
Post by: Gobble Doc on September 24, 2012, 12:51:04 PM
Post by: blacktailcody on September 24, 2012, 01:17:34 PM
http://www.abbeyarchery.com.au/p/HYRX/Hoyt+Rampage+XT+Camo.html (http://www.abbeyarchery.com.au/p/HYRX/Hoyt+Rampage+XT+Camo.html)
Post by: lokidog on September 24, 2012, 01:46:05 PM
OMG, you got the bow I got rid of in 1993 or so.... Hope it works out but a 2" draw length difference is quite a bit. That thing had no back wall if I remember correctly. Good luck on your archery adventure, and have fun.
Post by: Kc_Kracker on September 24, 2012, 03:28:22 PM